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11-14-2008, 10:38 AM

I'm thinking of launching a new site with the name of high schoolers, which of course will be 18 and 19 year olds.
Am I tempting fate? Can I get in trouble for the implications of the name?
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11-14-2008, 10:42 AM

One thing I find very odd about this subject is that in the first 20 minutes of the movie Fast Times at Ridgemont High you see depicted a 26 yr old guy having sex with a 15 yr old high school girl, some nudity is shown. No one raises an eyebrow about it "cause it's a movie"... Yet somehow, including the words "high school" in a website title is going to land someone in hot water?

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11-14-2008, 11:20 AM

Fast Times at Ridgemont High was released in the early 1980s.

A lot has changed in the past 25 years, including attitudes on what constitutes child porn, and the obsession of eliminating anything even possibly related to it.

In regards to the OPs question ... no, you likely won't get in legal trouble, but if the website is interpreted as implying underage, some ad sponsors, payment processors, etc may not accept the traffic making things more challenging.

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11-14-2008, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by czarina

I'm thinking of launching a new site with the name of high schoolers, which of course will be 18 and 19 year olds.

i was outta HS at 17, people fail that much in life to be in HS at 19? geez

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11-14-2008, 11:34 AM

I finished HS 2 months before turning 16... yes, I was a prodigy child (and look what I do now ha!)... but in the US, a lot of people dont graduate until they're well into their 18's or 19's.
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11-14-2008, 11:36 AM

In Sweden most graduate at the age of 18-19 but I would not use a name like that.

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11-14-2008, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Ron Bennett

Fast Times at Ridgemont High was released in the early 1980s.

A lot has changed in the past 25 years, including attitudes on what constitutes child porn, and the obsession of eliminating anything even possibly related to it.

In regards to the OPs question ... no, you likely won't get in legal trouble, but if the website is interpreted as implying underage, some ad sponsors, payment processors, etc may not accept the traffic making things more challenging.

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11-14-2008, 11:44 AM

Hell, go for it and see how it does.

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11-14-2008, 11:45 AM

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11-14-2008, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Ron Bennett

Fast Times at Ridgemont High was released in the early 1980s.

A lot has changed in the past 25 years, including attitudes on what constitutes child porn, and the obsession of eliminating anything even possibly related to it.

I realize all that, and know full well when it was released (I saw it first-run in the theatre) and I realize what has changed over the years.

But I'm sure there are other newer movies in the last 25 years (or even the last 5 years) where teens are portrayed and depicted having sex. In 2005's "The Quiet" for example, Elisha Cuthbert is a student and is getting sexually abused by her father. No nudity but there are a few pretty intense scenes. Ever see the movie "Thirteen"?

My point was that there is some very boned up thinking when it comes to the internet. Certain types of content and subjects are okay in movies, but magically they somehow become taboo when it comes to showing the same or similar thing on a website. You can crack a Sears catalogue and see teens in their undies but post a pic of a 15 or 16 yr old celeb in a bikini and all kinds of hackles get ruffled, alarm bells flying, people calling for the poster's head. Happens on this very board even.

Like I said, there is some boned up thinking out there. Do you disagree?

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11-14-2008, 12:02 PM

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11-14-2008, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Ron Bennett

Fast Times at Ridgemont High was released in the early 1980s.

A lot has changed in the past 25 years,

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11-14-2008, 12:06 PM

Um NO. I wouldn't do it. Most of the people in my H.S. class were 17 or 18 on the day we graduated. If they're 19, something went wrong! A couple of them were older either because of learning disabilites and a couple were military brats who didn't start school right on time due to being overseas. Anyway, the gamble is just not worth it!

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11-14-2008, 01:02 PM

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11-14-2008, 02:22 PM

i'm really surprised that VISA approved a site with a domain containing 'High School' in it

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11-14-2008, 02:26 PM

That's ballsy, and not so smart IMO.
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11-14-2008, 04:24 PM

I personally wouldn't no.
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11-14-2008, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by czarina

but in the US, a lot of people dont graduate until they're well into their 18's or 19's.

Really? Pretty much depends on what month you were born. I graduated at 17.
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11-14-2008, 04:49 PM

At the end of the school year, about 3/4 of Seniors are 18. The vast majority of the remaining 1/4 will turn 18 within the next three months.

Only 18.8% of total high school students are 18, much less earlier in the year.

So I have never been comfortable using the word High School on adult sites.
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11-14-2008, 04:52 PM

I graduated at 161/2 and was in College at 17. The laws have changed since them. Either way, I wouldn't suggest that niche unless you live in Denmark..

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11-14-2008, 04:54 PM

You should make it about College Kids that get HIGH.

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11-14-2008, 05:06 PM

You wouldn't get into any legal trouble from the authorities regarding child pornography as long as you didn't have any underaged girls on your site. They cannot arrest, charge and throw you in prison you for something that you have not done. However, using the term "high school" could spark an investigation and do you really need that drama?

If it were me, I would go with another name.

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11-14-2008, 05:07 PM

Rule #1 in adult biz: Know your local laws
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11-14-2008, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Dane

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11-14-2008, 05:32 PM

better don't test it... these child porn laws are serious, even thou u're not actually doing it, with a title like that u're probably gonna gain so much attention from those guys that u'll probably be better off in iraq with no internet or cellphone.

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11-14-2008, 05:36 PM

as long as your shit is compliant then you shouldn't have much trouble using the name legally anyway,, this name is mostly a moral issue, personally I don't have many morals :P
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11-14-2008, 06:14 PM

I graduated at 25. Where is my reward?

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11-14-2008, 07:02 PM

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i was outta HS at 17, people fail that much in life to be in HS at 19? geez

Its all about your birthday. Some school districts have different age cutoff dates for the school year/class you are in. If you switch districts it could get fucked up
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11-14-2008, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by Ron Bennett

Fast Times at Ridgemont High was released in the early 1980s.

A lot has changed in the past 25 years, including attitudes on what constitutes child porn, and the obsession of eliminating anything even possibly related to it.

In regards to the OPs question ... no, you likely won't get in legal trouble, but if the website is interpreted as implying underage, some ad sponsors, payment processors, etc may not accept the traffic making things more challenging.

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Nothing at all has changed. Remember Titanic? That underage chick getting banged in the car? I don't recall if there was nudity or not, but it was graphic enough for a main stream movie and the point was pretty clear. She was under age and getting banged.

Nothing has changed. Mainstream does it and it's fine. We do it and we go to jail.

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11-14-2008, 07:08 PM

How bout just changeing the name of your site a lil?,.. sumthing like "Sex Schoolers" or similar to it

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11-14-2008, 07:16 PM

dont let a pathetic few ruin anything for you
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11-14-2008, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by Voodoo

You should make it about College Kids that get HIGH.

Putting the words "Kids" in the domain might not be the best idea.

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11-14-2008, 08:01 PM

people been running "highscool" in porn forever, as long as you aren't suggesting the girls are younger than 18, you are fine, other than maybe the processor issue...
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11-14-2008, 10:27 PM

Not CP. This girl is in high school.
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11-14-2008, 11:08 PM

Jesus Christ, if you people still don't know what the legal definition of CP is after all this time, please exit the business now.

As far as the name, most of the people who graduated with me were 17 - 19. As long as ccbill and paycom doesn't have their head too far up their ass on this and will approve you, run with it.

It is NO different then using the word "teen" as teen can mean 18, 19, or 13 - 17, yet it's used on 100s of sites without a problem even though there are more 13 - 17 year olds than there are 18 and 19 year olds in the world. Go figure.
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11-15-2008, 02:40 AM

Around here there's 3 basic levels of education...

- primary
- secondary
- tertiary (university/further education)

Secondary is also known as high school, which covers the ages of about 11-17.

I'm not suggesting you need to rethink your site name based on what the people in the eastern states of Australia think it means, but in general you do need to remember that the net is global, so what seems fine in one place could be highly offensive in another.

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11-15-2008, 09:22 AM

This thread is why everyone should (1) hire a lawyer that is well versed in adult entertainment law and (2) STOP asking for legal advice on a message board. Recently the US Supreme Court decided US v. Williams in which the Court found that the pandering of CP is illegal even if you, -- get ready for this one -- DO NOT EVEN HAVE CP TO SELL.

So if you even try to sell CP that you dont have, you have violated the PROTECT Act. But selling virtual CP is alive and well in the US. Go figure. How does this apply to this situation -- it means that it is possible that websites promoting Teens and/or High Schoolers could also fall under the pandering provisions of the PROTECT Act. Since as several of the previous poster pointed out, the vast majority of teens and students in high school are under the age of majority in the US.

Basically what the Court is saying is that you cannot "hook" people with claims of CP and then try to sell them 18 year olds. That in itself is a violation and punishable by a nice stint in a Federal pen...

I would advise anyone to be very careful with anything that seems to indicate you have content that is possibly CP.

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11-15-2008, 11:29 AM

what would the feds think when they look at that site?
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11-15-2008, 12:09 PM

Yes, go to some highschools with a camara and just start snapping away.

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11-15-2008, 12:24 PM

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11-15-2008, 09:39 PM

If I were you, I'd steer clear. For me the potential hassle s not worth it.

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11-16-2008, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Ron Bennett

Fast Times at Ridgemont High was released in the early 1980s.
A lot has changed in the past 25 years, including attitudes on what constitutes child porn, and the obsession of eliminating anything even possibly related to it.

Not necessarily..

Californication had Mia, who played a 16 year old, naked as a jaybird and straddling 30 something Hank, bangin' his brains out..
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11-16-2008, 05:06 AM

I graduated at 18 (was a December baby)..but even so I wouldn't open myself up to any more headaches then I needed.
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11-16-2008, 05:19 AM

if i was putting together a site and it occurred to me that someone might think it was CP then i would scrap the idea and move on. if you think it's possible then it is possible that mary-joe is going to find your site in her husband's browsing history, think its CP, freak out, call her preacher and they can make a complaint about obscene materials being available in their po-dunk, florida town. if you decide to move forward with it i hope you have a good lawyer and that this post doesn't end up on a prosecutor's desk. =)

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11-16-2008, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by kandah

In Sweden most graduate at the age of 18-19 but I would not use a name like that.

Gymnasium in Sweden is not equal to High School in the US.
You get a bachelors degree after 3 years of college studies in Sweden while it takes 4 years in the US at regular study speed. You get a Masters degree after 4-5 years college/university studies in Sweden.

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11-17-2008, 05:13 PM

thanks so much for the input, guys and girls. Definitely I won't do it. You guys are right... it will open up a can of worms and I just dont need that!
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11-17-2008, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Scootermuze

Not necessarily..

Californication had Mia, who played a 16 year old, naked as a jaybird and straddling 30 something Hank, bangin' his brains out..

That's a prime example of the internet/mainstream double standard I was referring to.

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11-17-2008, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by czarina

I'm thinking of launching a new site with the name of high schoolers, which of course will be 18 and 19 year olds.
Am I tempting fate? Can I get in trouble for the implications of the name?

Just consider that 90%+ of kids in High School are legally, underage, and realize why most consider almost all, "High School" students to be underaged.

See how it is a bad combination of words?
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11-17-2008, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by man blast in your face

Just consider that 90%+ of kids in High School are legally, underage, and realize why most consider almost all, "High School" students to be underaged.

71% of "teen" is lower than 18...
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