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  • Lichen
    Tube Master
    • May 2004
    • 1640

    #46
    Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us...tion-hack.html

    WASHINGTON ? American intelligence agencies have concluded with ?high confidence? that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton?s chances and promote Donald J. Trump
    BREAKING.
    CIA: "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, war justified."

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    • Bladewire
      StraightBro
      • Aug 2003
      • 56228

      #47
      Originally posted by nico-t
      wrong

      Trump is the winner, all others suck

      I do not care about democrats and republicans. The Bushes are exactly the same as the Clintons: Establishment puppets
      I'm a Blue Dog Democrat now, I used to be a Rockefeller Republican, I'm fiscally conservative. Everyone Trump has appointed is pro multi-national corporate welfare, which will drain our system. I'm glad he's building up our military and gearing up for a fight.

      We'll see how things turnout, he lies so much it's hard to really tell what we're in for but its not looking good for our country financially.


      Skype: CallTomNow

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      • 2MuchMark
        Mark of 2Much.net
        • Aug 2004
        • 50966

        #48
        Originally posted by Bladewire


        AWESOME!!!!!!

        What a great, great day for America and the world it could be.


        Originally posted by Rochard
        If the Russians were involved in hacking the emails or otherwise intentionally tried to influence the election..... That would be huge.
        It looks like they really were involved:

        Check this out, by the Washington Post no less:
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e56af92fe0e0

        And to no surprise, Donald Trump is having a meltdown and calling out the CIA (LOL!!)
        Donald Trump takes aim at US intel on Russia - CNNPolitics.com

        What would happen if all of this turns out to be true? If Russia was shown to have hacked the election and worked with Trump to get him elected. Would Trump be automaticall disqualified from being Prez? Or would he have to be impeached? Would Pence take over, or would there be another election? I'm sure all of this is unheard of in US politics, but just wondering if you knew anyway.


        Originally posted by nico-t
        wow, Trump really makes the establishment desperate in all these attempts to undermine democracy. Obama really hates democracy.
        No that's not right. Democracy lets Obama launch an investigation, the same way it lets Trump say everything he says. And, it was democracy that allowed Trump to get this far. But now since there are so many questions, the democratic process must be allowed to continue so that those questions can be answered.

        Originally posted by crockett
        Spin spin baby...



        Originally posted by baddog

        Originally posted by crockett
        Spin spin baby... Trump has been claiming the election was rigged even after the election ended. Yet because a recount or investigation might hurt him, now it's different..
        You are the one that needs to go back to high school
        Why? Trump claimed the election was rigged before he won, and again after he won. I don't know if a recount would hurt him. Maybe yes, maybe no. As a true-blue American yourself, what do you have against a recount? Isn't this democracy?

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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089

          #49
          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
          17 US government agencies are confident and Baddog says he knows better ...
          I didn't say anything; I asked you a question. I thought you were fluent in English.

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          • baddog
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 107089

            #50
            Originally posted by crockett
            Clinton did win the popular vote.. Never in history has the popular vote been so much more and the candidate didn't win the EC.

            That shows, that gerrymandering is what "won" the EC. Meaning a rigged system at state level in a handful of states changed the outcome of the election.

            That is not how our elections should work. If you think allowing state governments to change the will of the people by redrawing lines is ok, then you should move to Russia or some other shit hole where the public has no real choice.
            Obviously you don't understand what gerrymandering is. When did states have their boundaries realigned?

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            • Barry-xlovecam
              It's 42
              • Jun 2010
              • 18083

              #51
              50 hacks ...
              Originally posted by Lichen
              BREAKING.
              CIA: "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, war justified."
              Message to the *red-hats*.

              They swallow any shit "fearless leader" flushes down their little mouths.

              The Democrat Senators on the Senate Intelligence Committee sent President Obama a signed letter asking that the report's details be declassified and released to the public. I would like to see them -- wouldn't you?

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              • Bladewire
                StraightBro
                • Aug 2003
                • 56228

                #52
                Originally posted by baddog
                Obviously you don't understand what gerrymandering is.
                It's very simple

                What political party gerrymanders to weaken the minority vote? Republicans


                Skype: CallTomNow

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                • baddog
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Bladewire
                  It's very simple

                  What political party gerrymanders to weaken the minority vote? Republicans
                  For your graph to be relevant each state would have to have their own EC and not base their results on the popular vote.

                  Not one works that way

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                  • Bladewire
                    StraightBro
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 56228

                    #54
                    Originally posted by baddog
                    For your graph to be relevant each state would have to have their own EC and not base their results on the popular vote.

                    Not one works that way

                    Take your complaint to Wikipedia, it's their graph https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerr..._United_States

                    Evidently there's a conspiracy by Wikipedia to misinform the public on the basics of our political system.


                    Skype: CallTomNow

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                    • vano
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 210

                      #55
                      It looks like liberals will never move past the denial phase, which is ok by me. Fuckin' crybabies won't win another national election for decades. Hope they run a gay muslim next election.


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                      • 2MuchMark
                        Mark of 2Much.net
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 50966

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                        50 hacks ...


                        Message to the *red-hats*.

                        They swallow any shit "fearless leader" flushes down their little mouths.

                        The Democrat Senators on the Senate Intelligence Committee sent President Obama a signed letter asking that the report's details be declassified and released to the public. I would like to see them -- wouldn't you?

                        I would for sure. And so should every freedom-loving American.




                        Originally posted by Lichen
                        BREAKING.
                        CIA: "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, war justified."
                        No.

                        The CIA released an summary on Saddam Hussein's chemical and biological weapons programs in 2002, 9 months before the invasion of Iraq.

                        An expurgated version was released in 2004, but the full version wasn't available to the public until 2009. The CIA said:

                        "Iraq probably has renovated a [vaccine] production plant" to manufacture biological weapons "but we are unable to determine whether [biological weapons] agent research has resumed." The NIE also said Hussein did not have "sufficient material" to manufacture any nuclear weapons and "the information we have on Iraqi nuclear personnel does not appear consistent with a coherent effort to reconstitute a nuclear weapons program."

                        The CIA told the truth.

                        Read more at
                        Here's the full version of the CIA's 2002 intelligence assessment on WMD in Iraq - Business Insider and https://news.vice.com/article/the-ci...-iraq-invasion

                        peace.

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                        • 2MuchMark
                          Mark of 2Much.net
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 50966

                          #57
                          Originally posted by vano
                          It looks like liberals will never move past the denial phase, which is ok by me. Fuckin' crybabies won't win another national election for decades. Hope they run a gay muslim next election.


                          .
                          Vano, this isn't a "liberal" thing anymore. I don't think anyone should dismiss this topic. It's pretty damn important.

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                          • baddog
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 107089

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Bladewire
                            Take your complaint to Wikipedia, it's their graph https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerr..._United_States

                            Evidently there's a conspiracy by Wikipedia to misinform the public on the basics of our political system.
                            That's for local stuff you idiot.

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                            • Bladewire
                              StraightBro
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 56228

                              #59
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              That's for local stuff you idiot.
                              Yeah Crockett said "That shows, that gerrymandering is what "won" the EC. Meaning a rigged system at state level in a handful of states changed the outcome of the election."

                              So I posted a graphic to explain to you gerrymandering because you were confused as to how it impacted presidential elections.

                              The GOP gerrymandered local elections to imppact congressional districts and win the 201y election without popular vote.

                              Here's a story written about their plan in April 2015 GOP Plots to Win 2016 Presidency Without a Majority Popular Vote. It's basically stealing power against the will of the majority.


                              Skype: CallTomNow

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                              • kane
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Aug 2001
                                • 20684

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Steve Rupe
                                They don't have to vote for Clinton, acutally, but I too do not think that enough electors will change their vote. I do think that their should be an investigation into the "hacking" matter to confirm who did it, if possible, and to hopefully come up with some ideas to prevent it from happening again.
                                I agree, if there was some kind of hacking or influence from Russia that may have affected the election, it needs to be looked into so we can see just what happened and keep it from happening again.

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