Only people making money in porn is performers and tubes!

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  • dave90210
    Registered User
    • Mar 2007
    • 1745

    #1

    Only people making money in porn is performers and tubes!

    Performers want top dollar per scene typically min $600 on up per scene. Performers want to get paid like it's still 2001 and are out of touch with reality

    Tubes steal the content or sites give them free content in hopes of getting some traffic and sales. Tubes don't pay shit for content so no overhead and all profit! Am I missing something here?
  • Google Expert
    Webmaster
    • Jun 2004
    • 14294

    #2
    This thread needs Paul Markham to set the record straight.

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    • Grapesoda
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jul 2003
      • 46238

      #3
      Originally posted by dave90210
      Performers want top dollar per scene typically min $600 on up per scene. Performers want to get paid like it's still 2001 and are out of touch with reality

      Tubes steal the content or sites give them free content in hopes of getting some traffic and sales. Tubes don't pay shit for content so no overhead and all profit! Am I missing something here?
      the tubes are so loved here at gfy many nic's what to use the tube model with the government.

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      • Brian mike
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        • Oct 2014
        • 8735

        #4
        Originally posted by google expert
        this thread needs paul markham to set the record straight.
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        • Bladewire
          StraightBro
          • Aug 2003
          • 56228

          #5
          Originally posted by dave90210
          I missing something here?
          Yeah you said in another thread that you don't work in the industry remember? Maybe you're feeling us out to see the current cost of content production to see if you can afford to dip your Beverly Hills toes back in the porn pool?


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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #6
            There are some great sites making money. It's just that no one here has one.

            Online porn spent the glory years from 1998 to 2008 worshipping traffic. which would have been good, if only they had not competed at giving away content to get it. Yes, even the game of getting traffic was dominated by who could give away the most content.

            2008 the rise of free vs paid for, got supercharged. Instead of losing 50% of sales, we lost 99%. I'm generous with those ratios. Those paying $300 to $1,000 per scene and webmaster who thought they could create porn, were fucked or on their way to being fucked.

            Today the customer will not buy because Tubes are better. And they're free. And that's the point. If you can't sell something that costs $1 a day, you're either a crap salesman or have a crap product compared to what others have.

            The OP complains about models wanting $600 a scene. The ability to get the best out of that model in that scene is what determines you having a good product or a bad one.

            Crap in crap out.

            Rethink your approach to the product. Because conveyor belt porn isn't going to compete with Tubes with free bespoke porn.



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            • Paul Markham
              Too old to care
              • Jun 2001
              • 52942

              #7
              Originally posted by Google Expert
              This thread needs Paul Markham to set the record straight.
              No, it needs you to show that you have a clue at selling memberships to a porn site.

              Something positive.

              Those wanting a quick jerk off to anything that turns them on are so well catered for today, going after that market is stupid. The few who buy demand more, so give it to them.

              The moment a model enters the studio, start filming her. Get BTS content that titillates customers and informs them of who the model and you are, what the build up is like and what you're going to do. Also, film her after the scenes. If she insists on faking everything like a ham porn actress, send her home. You pay real $$$ for real performances.

              Make your site more than conveyor belt porn scenes stacked on top of another and more about what goes on behind the lens.

              If only because you can no longer compete with Tubes.



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              • NALEM
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2010
                • 3163

                #8
                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                No, it needs you to show that you have a clue at selling memberships to a porn site.

                Something positive.

                Those wanting a quick jerk off to anything that turns them on are so well catered for today, going after that market is stupid. The few who buy demand more, so give it to them.

                The moment a model enters the studio, start filming her. Get BTS content that titillates customers and informs them of who the model and you are, what the build up is like and what you're going to do. Also, film her after the scenes. If she insists on faking everything like a ham porn actress, send her home. You pay real $$$ for real performances.

                Make your site more than conveyor belt porn scenes stacked on top of another and more about what goes on behind the lens.

                If only because you can no longer compete with Tubes.

                This ...
                "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                • itx
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 980

                  #9
                  The mastermind of Paul Markham.

                  Originally posted by Google Expert
                  This thread needs Paul Markham to set the record straight.

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                  • Bladewire
                    StraightBro
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 56228

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    There are some great sites making money. It's just that no one here has one.
                    Not true


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                    • blackmonsters
                      Making PHP work
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 20960

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dave90210
                      Performers want top dollar per scene typically min $600 on up per scene. Performers want to get paid like it's still 2001 and are out of touch with reality

                      Tubes steal the content or sites give them free content in hopes of getting some traffic and sales. Tubes don't pay shit for content so no overhead and all profit! Am I missing something here?
                      No, the reality is performers can't get 5 shoots a week anymore and need to ask for $600 to pay the rent.

                      The other part you are missing is that it's not up to the performers to protect the content from tubes; that's your part.
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                      • dave90210
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1745

                        #12
                        Lol this is my favorite quote I've seen so far on this forum!

                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                        There are some great sites making money. It's just that no one here has one.

                        You can lease a 4 million dollar mansion for $3,000 a week in Los Angeles making $600 per scene 5 days a week. Most shoots are multiple scenes so that could easily grow to $1200 on up per shoot.
                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                        No, the reality is performers can't get 5 shoots a week anymore and need to ask for $600 to pay the rent.

                        The other part you are missing is that it's not up to the performers to protect the content from tubes; that's your part.

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bladewire
                          Not true
                          So show us those sites and their accounts.



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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dave90210
                            Lol this is my favorite quote I've seen so far on this forum!
                            Thank you.


                            You can lease a 4 million dollar mansion for $3,000 a week in Los Angeles making $600 per scene 5 days a week. Most shoots are multiple scenes so that could easily grow to $1200 on up per shoot.
                            We know people can shoot content. The problem comes when selling it.

                            $3,000 location.
                            10 scenes @ $600 for the girl and $200 for the boy.
                            Make up $200 per day
                            Food and drinks. $100

                            That's $12,500 for mediocre cut and paste porn. Can you shoot it well enough to sell it for $25,000? Are there many out there buying BG scenes @ $2,500?



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                            • SekobA
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 12173

                              #15
                              Money making tubes

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