The day this happens... The DWB is heading to Cuba and putting down roots in Havana. I've been waiting for this for 10 years.
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lol, i hope not. its a nice destination for canadians
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I hope he does. They have enslaved that little nations for decades nowComment
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No, the US used Cuba as a political hostage against the imaginary communist ghost your government used before they came up with Al Qaeda.
funny thing is - what Castro did to the US fruit company, is what Obama want to do to the Free trade
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You ever even been there?
Let me guess, you are either an Anti-Fidel Cuban-American living in Miami or just an American who has no idea what he is talking about, because you are talking out of your ass now.
The USA crippled Cuba. Not Fidel.Comment
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Yea, but they just go to the tourist resorts. I don't fuck with those places, I dig the old, real Havana. That city as so much charm, I feel in love with it the first time I went there. The entire island is charming though, so are the people.
The only shitty Cubans I have ever come across are the anti-Castro Cubans from the USA.Comment
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Are you not free to visit any country?Comment
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i go to cuba, smoke cigars and grow a beard, juicy d. castrooooooooooooo
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The USA does not allow their citizens, you know the "free" people, to spend money in Cuba. This of course means you can not travel there because it's impossible to not spend money there.
To do so you can be charged with "Trading With The Enemy" and pay a $7000 fine I think it is or do jail time. It's all BS. But we used to go through Mexico and the Cubans would not stamp your passport. They know the drill and welcome us. I have not been in a few years though.Comment
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I can set you up in the same house that Jerry Springer and Arnold Schwarzenegger rents out when they go there. You can sit on the porch, surrounded by BEAUTIFUL young girls and smoke Cohibas while drinking the best Mojitos you have ever had.
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for those that dont know the history.
TheUnited Fruit Company(us) ran the locals out of their jobs, by underbidding their work and products.
As a result of that Fidel Castro expropriated the properties of people associated with that company, and gave it back to the people.
The US then replied with this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...o_against_Cuba
The United Fruit Company was frequently accused of bribing government officials in exchange for preferential treatment, exploiting its workers, contributing little by way of taxes to the countries in which it operated, and working ruthlessly to consolidate monopolies. It uses what are referred to as "Economic Hitmen" making sure the country accept huge US sponsored loans, only ending up having to loose both the resources of the country AND pay interest of the loans
All was done to try and remove the socialist leaders on Cuba, and put someone less Communist friendly in power. But it only made them stronger.
Therefor my previous statement "They have enslaved that little nations for decades now"Comment
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what the FUCK do that have to do with anything?
- I Said the US have enslaved the nation
- You replied Fidel did it
- I explained to you, why that is a lie, and how they keep doing it again and again... Iraq, Venezuela, Ecuador.. list goes on and on
And now you try and brush it off as "everyone else does it"? Because of US politics, you have held a country back since the 60's ... thats 50 YEARS !
Quote from Obama:
"Allowing subsidized and unfairly traded products to flood our markets is not free trade and it's not fair. We cannot let foreign regulatory policies exclude American products. We cannot let enforcement of existing trade agreements take a backseat to the negotiation of new ones."
But I guess its OK for US to do it?Comment
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I lived in Cuba for over 5 years on and off base... Castro is to blame not us, you have no idea what you're talking aboutComment
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Cuba is a really cool place to go to. My mom is Cuban and I go every year. It's kick-a*s!
By the way, the fault is both, Fidel's and the US govt. There's no absolute guilty in this situation.
But like I was discussing with my husband the other day: Cuba has a boatload of problems, but everybody eats, everybody has free top notch health care and free exceptional education.
You do lack freedom and in general it's pretty sucky to live there, but there are no children working, no poor people going thru the trash looking for something to eat, and no people dying for lack of health care.Last edited by czarina; 11-05-2008, 04:57 AM.Comment
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I know I am and anyone who knows anything about what is going on in the world and Cuba, knows this to be true as well.
But I will allow you to humor us, what is it exactly that Castro did to cripple Cuba?
The US Military base?
I will ask the same of you, what exactly did he do to cripple Cuba? If by that you mean he didn't play ball with the USA and they punished an entire nation for it, I can hardly call that his fault.
I'm not saying he is not bad for other things he has done, but what act did he do to cause all of this?
Indeed.
What Castro did was not get in bed with the USA and the country was punished for it. I've actually studied the Cuban Revolution and Fidel Castro in great detail and I have yet to find anything from him that caused the trade embargo that has held the island down for so long. The USA even bullied the rest of the world to not trade with Cuba as well for all these years, just recently other countries grew balls and started to trade with Cuba.
If you (or the other guys who think Castro is to blame for it all) have information that is not available to the public that says otherwise, I'd love to see it. I'm NOT pr-Castro by any means, but I don't fault him for the extreme poverty there and lack of trade with the country.
Agreed.
Exactly. And that can not even be said for "the greatest country on earth."
You are dead right Jim. But I still enjoy the charm of the place. At least until the Americans run in and strip it of all that makes it charming.Comment
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You can still get there by flying from Canada, just don't let them stamp your passport.
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Canada shares their flight manifest with the US government. Most of the people who get caught go through Canada. Not that you WILL get caught because it's just too much to trac down everyone, but if you happen to be on one of the flights they look at... you are TRADING WITH THE ENEMY!
Mexico used to be the safest way but since Bush, he has bullied them into sharing their flight manifest too. That's why I stopped going.Comment
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Has this always been the case or just post 911? It's been a whileCanada shares their flight manifest with the US government. Most of the people who get caught go through Canada. Not that you WILL get caught because it's just too much to trac down everyone, but if you happen to be on one of the flights they look at... you are TRADING WITH THE ENEMY!
Mexico used to be the safest way but since Bush, he has bullied them into sharing their flight manifest too. That's why I stopped going.
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plenty of great reasons to go
*real mojitos
*cigars of course
*the people
*the art
*if you're a jazz fan
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i think cuba is the only place i could watch tv, no commercials!!!
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Great places. I've spent a lot of time down there, all over the island, not just Havana. Though Havana is the place I would not mind getting an apartment if I could. I'm really into Salsa and Afro-Cuban music and that is pretty much ground zero for that.
Trinidad is actually my favorite, but it's WAY to small and off the grid for me to want to spend any serious time there.Comment
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