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  • Matyko
    PsyHead
    • Aug 2005
    • 8681

    #1

    replacement for International Wires

    Hi All,

    As a European webmaster I need to ask for your help regarding the recently growing issue about getting paid by US companies. I live in Hungary, and here, since approx 6 months ago the banks stopped taking/cashing US checks.. Earlier I was able to cash them, however it was always a struggle, because of the bad exchange rates and very long time to complete the transactions (it usually took 3-4 weeks until the money appeared on my bank account). I am aware that other EU/nearby countries have issues with cashing checks And getting international wires.

    Payoneer might be OK, but they say that I can withdraw money to my bank account from only certain funding sources..

    Maybe I need to open a US bank account for my hungarian company and ask domestic wire there, than move that money to my hungarian bank account?

    The only solution I can think about is to ask the domestic wire to a reliable 'exchanger' [Roby or Chosen] and than get a wire from them to the bank account of my company.. But in this case what shall I say to my accountant? The money is not coming directly from the company I am working with....

    Anyone has a good/affordable solution?

    Thank You for the cooperation / advices in advance!
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  • Sid70
    Downshifter
    • Dec 2002
    • 16413

    #2
    ACH to Payoneer works fine, that's applicable to US companies only, and ACH only, not wires.

    Most of the US companies / individuals do well with PayPal.

    Not sure about getting a USD account in the USA for your Hungarian co tho.
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    • Adraco
      Confirmed User
      • May 2009
      • 3745

      #3
      I have used and still use today:
      Welcome to ePayService
      They will cash checks and receive wire transfers for you.

      Getting an American bank account if you do not have an American address or a US based company can be hard. Depending on the bank, it is not as easy as you would think to just come walsing in and thinking you'd be able to open an account just like that as a foreigner and an Hungarian company.

      The best solution is, in my mind, to raise your minimum payment and get one, two or three payments from each sponsor per year as international wire transfers directly to your Hungarian bank account. That will be the most cost effective, but requires you to trust each sponsor 3-4 months at a time.
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      • freecartoonporn
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2012
        • 7683

        #4
        I am aware that other EU/nearby countries have issues with cashing checks And getting international wires.
        i have never header of this issue.,

        but if thats the case., then you need companies like payoneer.,
        who does local transfer to you bank . but i hear there are limits on how much money you can receive for some countries.

        you can use paaxum too.
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        • Brian mike
          #Alberta51
          • Oct 2014
          • 8735

          #5
          Originally posted by Matyko
          The only solution I can think about is to ask the domestic wire to a reliable 'exchanger' [Roby or Chosen] and than get a wire from them to the bank account of my company.. But in this case what shall I say to my accountant? The money is not coming directly from the company I am working with....
          IMO, Your accountant all he need to see is the number matched from what you billed and whats its in your bank account .
          How you get paid Credit , check , paypal, cash, should not mathers as long the numbers match close to what you claim +- transaction fee etc ..
          Your not in the USA Lucky you. You should speak with Roby Probably he can manage some magic for ya ;)

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          • NatalieK
            Natalie K
            • Apr 2010
            • 20123

            #6
            Originally posted by Matyko
            Hi All,

            As a European webmaster I need to ask for your help regarding the recently growing issue about getting paid by US companies. I live in Hungary, and here, since approx 6 months ago the banks stopped taking/cashing US checks.. Earlier I was able to cash them, however it was always a struggle, because of the bad exchange rates and very long time to complete the transactions (it usually took 3-4 weeks until the money appeared on my bank account). I am aware that other EU/nearby countries have issues with cashing checks And getting international wires.

            Payoneer might be OK, but they say that I can withdraw money to my bank account from only certain funding sources..

            Maybe I need to open a US bank account for my hungarian company and ask domestic wire there, than move that money to my hungarian bank account?

            The only solution I can think about is to ask the domestic wire to a reliable 'exchanger' [Roby or Chosen] and than get a wire from them to the bank account of my company.. But in this case what shall I say to my accountant? The money is not coming directly from the company I am working with....

            Anyone has a good/affordable solution?

            Thank You for the cooperation / advices in advance!
            It's a shame not everyone offers Payoneer, extralunchmoney & Clips4sale both need to, as Payoneer works well for overseas especially into EU
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            • Roby
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2004
              • 8035

              #7
              Originally posted by Matyko
              Hi All,

              Anyone has a good/affordable solution?

              Thank You for the cooperation / advices in advance!
              i think we can help you contacted you via skype.
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              • Sly
                Let's do some business!
                • Sep 2004
                • 31377

                #8
                Here is an alternate solution. It may be messy and difficult but in the long run may work out well.

                Set up United States company. (I don't know the laws on that for a foreigner.)

                Get a dropbox in the United States that will deposit checks for you. This can be done for less than $50 a month.

                You can then pull out your American money as needed with a bank transfer.

                Not the easiest solution, but an option.
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                • 3xmedia
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5738

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Matyko
                  Payoneer might be OK, but they say that I can withdraw money to my bank account from only certain funding sources..
                  Payoneer is fine but some of their terms seem to be retarded
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                  • 3xmedia
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 5738

                    #10
                    Receiving payments by Payoneer/Paxum and using their Mastercads to withdraw money from ATMs isn't an option for you?
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                    • RuthB
                      Let's Get Paxumized!
                      • May 2005
                      • 7248

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Matyko
                      Hi All,

                      As a European webmaster I need to ask for your help regarding the recently growing issue about getting paid by US companies. I live in Hungary, and here, since approx 6 months ago the banks stopped taking/cashing US checks.. Earlier I was able to cash them, however it was always a struggle, because of the bad exchange rates and very long time to complete the transactions (it usually took 3-4 weeks until the money appeared on my bank account). I am aware that other EU/nearby countries have issues with cashing checks And getting international wires.

                      Payoneer might be OK, but they say that I can withdraw money to my bank account from only certain funding sources..

                      Maybe I need to open a US bank account for my hungarian company and ask domestic wire there, than move that money to my hungarian bank account?

                      The only solution I can think about is to ask the domestic wire to a reliable 'exchanger' [Roby or Chosen] and than get a wire from them to the bank account of my company.. But in this case what shall I say to my accountant? The money is not coming directly from the company I am working with....

                      Anyone has a good/affordable solution?

                      Thank You for the cooperation / advices in advance!
                      Hi Matyko,

                      Paxum can help. You can receive payments to your Paxum account, and then withdraw by wire to your local bank. It's simple and direct. We don't limit your withdrawal based on your funding sources.

                      We do also have the Paxum card for instant withdrawal, but if you need the funds deposited directly to your bank account, or if your monthly withdrawals would be greater than $10,000 USD, then wire withdrawal might be more suitable.

                      I'd be happy to assist you if you have any questions.
                      Thanks,
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                      • Sid70
                        Downshifter
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 16413

                        #12
                        "recently growing issue about getting paid by US companies"

                        Dude's working with US clients who are too stupid to send ACH to his Payoneer card.

                        Educate your clients, bro

                        P.S.: Unless you need to show your income correctly to get a home loan, ask fuckers to PayPal and get your company's account linked to PayPal.

                        PIRIOD.
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                        • Google Expert
                          Webmaster
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 14294

                          #13
                          Why can't you receive wires directly to your Hungarian bank account?

                          If you need to cash out these wires then find someone local who would do that for you. (you make up bullshit invoices for him, like payment for advertising, and report no profit to your accountant).

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                          • Sid70
                            Downshifter
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 16413

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Google Expert
                            Why can't you receive wires directly to your Hungarian bank account?

                            If you need to cash out these wires then find someone local who would do that for you. (you make up bullshit invoices for him, like payment for advertising, and report no profit to your accountant).
                            It's about CHECKS!!!!!
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                            • Sid70
                              Downshifter
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 16413

                              #15
                              Also, may be get a NORMAL bank account?

                              NatWest Online ? Bank Accounts, Mortgages, Loans and Savings
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                              • Matyko
                                PsyHead
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 8681

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Sid70
                                ACH to Payoneer works fine, that's applicable to US companies only, and ACH only, not wires.

                                Most of the US companies / individuals do well with PayPal.

                                Not sure about getting a USD account in the USA for your Hungarian co tho.
                                Payoneer should be OK, but Payoneer also says when I am connecting with the partner that the funds via this source can only be used to cash out at ATMs, no bank withdrawal..
                                Which is not an optimal solution for me, but obviously one that might work.

                                Paypal I don't want to trust with my money. Neither my partners I guess.

                                Originally posted by Adraco
                                I have used and still use today:
                                Welcome to ePayService
                                They will cash checks and receive wire transfers for you.

                                Getting an American bank account if you do not have an American address or a US based company can be hard. Depending on the bank, it is not as easy as you would think to just come walsing in and thinking you'd be able to open an account just like that as a foreigner and an Hungarian company.

                                The best solution is, in my mind, to raise your minimum payment and get one, two or three payments from each sponsor per year as international wire transfers directly to your Hungarian bank account. That will be the most cost effective, but requires you to trust each sponsor 3-4 months at a time.
                                Epayservices might be a perfect solution for me, thank you!

                                I pass on the US bank account, too much hassle, and thanks for the info anyway!

                                Originally posted by freecartoonporn
                                i have never header of this issue.,

                                but if thats the case., then you need companies like payoneer.,
                                who does local transfer to you bank . but i hear there are limits on how much money you can receive for some countries.

                                you can use paaxum too.
                                Thanks. The limit is interesting, definitely need to ask about it no matter which solution I pick in the end.

                                Originally posted by Brian mike
                                IMO, Your accountant all he need to see is the number matched from what you billed and whats its in your bank account .
                                How you get paid Credit , check , paypal, cash, should not mathers as long the numbers match close to what you claim +- transaction fee etc ..
                                Your not in the USA Lucky you. You should speak with Roby Probably he can manage some magic for ya ;)

                                Good luck mate.
                                Thanks! But I believe accounting [at least here in Hungary] is not just about the numbers need to match.. I need to put the payment method on the invoice, etc.. Roby can help me for sure, I am just not sure if - especially on a long run - I need to flow my money through such a service instead of setting up a system where I am getting paid directly by the sponsor program.

                                Originally posted by Roby
                                i think we can help you contacted you via skype.
                                Thank You Roby. I do know that you are able to help me and I will use your service for sure unless I find a way to get paid directly as stated above. ;)

                                Originally posted by Sly
                                Here is an alternate solution. It may be messy and difficult but in the long run may work out well.

                                Set up United States company. (I don't know the laws on that for a foreigner.)

                                Get a dropbox in the United States that will deposit checks for you. This can be done for less than $50 a month.

                                You can then pull out your American money as needed with a bank transfer.

                                Not the easiest solution, but an option.
                                Thanks for the suggestion Sly! This is too complicated, but will keep in mind as a solution.

                                Originally posted by 3xmedia
                                Payoneer is fine but some of their terms seem to be retarded
                                Yes, support is weird [not answering everything..] and it is crazy I am not able to withdraw to bank funds from certain sources..

                                Originally posted by 3xmedia
                                Receiving payments by Payoneer/Paxum and using their Mastercads to withdraw money from ATMs isn't an option for you?
                                Not really, but in the end what matters is to get that $$$ so...

                                Originally posted by RuthB
                                Hi Matyko,

                                Paxum can help. You can receive payments to your Paxum account, and then withdraw by wire to your local bank. It's simple and direct. We don't limit your withdrawal based on your funding sources.

                                We do also have the Paxum card for instant withdrawal, but if you need the funds deposited directly to your bank account, or if your monthly withdrawals would be greater than $10,000 USD, then wire withdrawal might be more suitable.

                                I'd be happy to assist you if you have any questions.
                                Thanks,
                                Ruth
                                [email protected]
                                Thank You Ruth, I will email you ASAP!

                                Originally posted by Sid70
                                "recently growing issue about getting paid by US companies"

                                Dude's working with US clients who are too stupid to send ACH to his Payoneer card.

                                Educate your clients, bro

                                P.S.: Unless you need to show your income correctly to get a home loan, ask fuckers to PayPal and get your company's account linked to PayPal.

                                PIRIOD.
                                No, they are not too stupid to do so, they are just old school guys I think and so far check+wire combo fulfilled all their needs.. Now they are suggesting Payoneer to their international affiliates.

                                Originally posted by Sid70
                                Also, may be get a NORMAL bank account?

                                NatWest Online ? Bank Accounts, Mortgages, Loans and Savings
                                I don't really understand what you mean a 'normal' bank account. I can have any kinds of accounts here, it does not change anything about my partners not being able to do international wires..

                                Checks would be the easiest way, but here in this hellhole they do not cash checks anymore.. but I will ask again, maybe there's anything that changed in a good way..





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                                • PornDiscounts-R
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 1272

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Matyko

                                  Checks would be the easiest way, but here in this hellhole they do not cash checks anymore.. but I will ask again, maybe there's anything that changed in a good way..
                                  I think checks is a problem a lot of places and i see it more as something where USA is stock in the past and keeps holding on to checks. I have almost the same issue as you with them.

                                  If i take a check to my bank they give me a look like, is this 1985.
                                  They can take it after a lot of talk but for a $75 fee. So i stay clear of checks as well.
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                                  • Sid70
                                    Downshifter
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 16413

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Matyko



                                    I don't really understand what you mean a 'normal' bank account. I can have any kinds of accounts here, it does not change anything about my partners not being able to do international wires..
                                    I lost you here.

                                    You said you had a problem accepting US wires, now it's also because they do not / can not send international wires . . .

                                    Must say, it's the first time in my 15 year dealing with US clients I hear they dont want PayPal. May be its about big amounts tho I dont deal with ... in that case why would you want to trust OK Pay, Paxum or any other semi-bank ish organization?

                                    If it was about steady 5-10k / mo I'd open a US co and ask your prospective clients to help with accounting / reporting in the US to start.
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                                    • Matyko
                                      PsyHead
                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 8681

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sid70
                                      I lost you here.

                                      You said you had a problem accepting US wires, now it's also because they do not / can not send international wires . . .

                                      Must say, it's the first time in my 15 year dealing with US clients I hear they dont want PayPal. May be its about big amounts tho I dont deal with ... in that case why would you want to trust OK Pay, Paxum or any other semi-bank ish organization?

                                      If it was about steady 5-10k / mo I'd open a US co and ask your prospective clients to help with accounting / reporting in the US to start.
                                      Sorry, just to clarify: it is them, the US companies who can not send me [and european affiliates/webmasters] international wire anymore. They say this is connected to the webmasterchecks issue.

                                      Right now I need to find a way to get $15k from a certain sponsor - I guess this is above the amount that is OK to flow through paypal.. But I make ~$4-5k per month with them so I need to find a way to build out a regular way.


                                      Somoene mentioned above that maybe I should discuss to send my earning a few times a year: I would have Zero problems with that!
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                                      • Sid70
                                        Downshifter
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 16413

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Matyko
                                        Sorry, just to clarify: it is them, the US companies who can not send me [and european affiliates/webmasters] international wire anymore. They say this is connected to the webmasterchecks issue.

                                        Right now I need to find a way to get $15k from a certain sponsor - I guess this is above the amount that is OK to flow through paypal.. But I make ~$4-5k per month with them so I need to find a way to build out a regular way.


                                        Somoene mentioned above that maybe I should discuss to send my earning a few times a year: I would have Zero problems with that!
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                                        • Matyko
                                          PsyHead
                                          • Aug 2005
                                          • 8681

                                          #21
                                          Thanks for everyone for the kind help and good suggestions!
                                          Some updates: Payoneer is indeed able to replace international wires. I received money and was able to drive it to my company bank account. So this might be an even better solution for me as this way is faster and cheaper than the wires I was using in the past.
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                                          • Barry-xlovecam
                                            It's 42
                                            • Jun 2010
                                            • 18083

                                            #22
                                            Eventually, there will be world-wide interbank transfer like ACH in the USA and SEPA in the Eurozone.

                                            Traditional banks are living in a dying past.
                                            Guaranteed electronic (digital) transfer.
                                            You would not need credit card associations either.

                                            This would put a lot of people out of business ... "eventually."
                                            This would also create a lot of new business and trade -- that is what scares them (all).

                                            Best thing to do is deal with people who can deal with you. We have no problem with SEPA ...

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