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10-23-2008, 03:48 PM

Today I had a alarm installed in my studio and we were shooting. The alarm company guy was shocked that we were shooting porn not because it was porn he said but because of tube sites. He asked who in their right mind would pay for porn when he gets it all day for free on pornhub and all the other porn tube sites. Tubes are going to kill the business so I got something for all you tube owners
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10-23-2008, 03:52 PM

...and not to hijack but I had a similar experience I posted about recently

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10-23-2008, 03:53 PM

Remember you must adapt.
Bypass the tube sites and give consumers your exclusive videos before they get to the tubes. That will show them.

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10-23-2008, 03:53 PM

I dont think it will kill it alone but it is part of the kill the business pie.
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10-23-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

Remember you must adapt.
Bypass the tube sites and give consumers your exclusive videos before they get to the tubes. That will show them.

adapt??? fuck that is their not something we can do? Why don't all the cash programs stop sending checks to them. If they cant make money then they wont be able to pay their bills no?

Lets make a list of people that own companies that allow tubes to have their videos and a list of owners that wont allow it and maybe we can make a dent no?
or is everyone allowing this to slowly take the industry out?
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10-23-2008, 05:49 PM

Well there you go, that's proof right there.

Meanwhile, in the real world, many of us continue to sell memberships to tube surfers. I guess your alarm installer guy hasn't gotten the word out to everyone yet.

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10-23-2008, 08:25 PM

It's over, turn in your camera

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10-23-2008, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by WarChild

Well there you go, that's proof right there.

Meanwhile, in the real world, many of us continue to sell memberships to tube surfers. I guess your alarm installer guy hasn't gotten the word out to everyone yet.

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10-23-2008, 09:59 PM

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10-23-2008, 10:03 PM

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hey warchild what do you do for teencash? I shot some stuff for them

Nothing. I know the owners and I think it's a good product, that's it.

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10-24-2008, 01:11 AM

And yet iTunes makes more sales on CD's than Walmart...
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10-24-2008, 01:20 AM

It's all the question about quality and an interesting idea of a content.

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10-24-2008, 01:37 AM

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10-24-2008, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by kesha1

It's all the question about quality and an interesting idea of a content.

I agree but tubes are still killing it.
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10-25-2008, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

And yet iTunes makes more sales on CD's than Walmart...

and more people use pornhub on their iphone than that so go figure.
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10-25-2008, 12:21 PM

Adept or fuck off man
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10-25-2008, 12:26 PM

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Adept or fuck off man

Adept??????
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10-25-2008, 01:10 PM

This is the same shit that people were crying when TGP sites first started becoming popular.
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10-25-2008, 01:16 PM

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10-25-2008, 01:23 PM

oh... well, a 10.00 an hour guy told one of the webs biggest lunatics something and conclusions about the state of the industry were reached.

fuck.

i guess there is nothing else to do but close down shop.

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10-25-2008, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by donnylong

adapt??? fuck that is their not something we can do? Why don't all the cash programs stop sending checks to them. If they cant make money then they wont be able to pay their bills no?

Lets make a list of people that own companies that allow tubes to have their videos and a list of owners that wont allow it and maybe we can make a dent no?
or is everyone allowing this to slowly take the industry out?

Make sure you are differentiating between legal and illegal tubes before you start a witch hunt.

The tube model is one of the few innovations to hit our industry sadly in the past few years, and we let mainstream beat us to the punch. Great content delivery module, as long as its kept in check.

Many people confuse sites stealing full scenes and illegally posting and hosting this content with other tube sites run with sales to content producers in mind, or using licensed content and premium membership models.

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10-25-2008, 01:36 PM

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10-25-2008, 01:41 PM

the alarm installer guy is the joe the plumber of the adult industry.
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10-25-2008, 01:41 PM

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10-25-2008, 01:58 PM

EVERY SINGLE PERSON I KNOW THAT LOOKS AT PORN NOW GETS 100% OF THEIR PORN FROM TUBE SITES AND BIT TORRENTS!!!

Read that as many times as you need to. Say "you must adapt" as many times as you would like. But I know a lot of fucking people and every single one of them is no longer buying porn.

These guys ALL paid for porn memberships up until about a year or so ago. Well, I have them free access to my sites and free copies of my DVDs, but they paid for the rest of it.

I'm still making good money buuuuuuut as tubes grow and become more popular, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna take a hit sooner or later. That's when I'm going to turn to pre-checked x-sales under the submit button, on the cancel page and a few other hidden places. I'm going to x-sell them until their fucking balls fall off. Then I'm going to sell their email to anyone who will buy it as well as spam the shit out of them. Install malware on their systems, sniff their private data and then buy shit with their stolen credit cards until I max it out. I'm even gonna send snail mail postal spam to them. They fuck us... I'm gonna fuck them right back. ;-)
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10-25-2008, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

EVERY SINGLE PERSON I KNOW THAT LOOKS AT PORN NOW GETS 100% OF THEIR PORN FROM TUBE SITES AND BIT TORRENTS!!!

Read that as many times as you need to. Say "you must adapt" as many times as you would like. But I know a lot of fucking people and every single one of them is no longer buying porn.

there was never a point in this biz where that couldn't have been said "everyone i know finds free porn by going to....." - just because tube sites exist, doesn't mean these life and death "issues" weren't being complained about before. people were always finding all the free pics/vids etc that they wanted and the industry grew by leaps and bounds.

the funny thing about tube sites is that they are simply more of the same and they are making money. everyone keeps pretending they don't .. the fact of the matter is that they do. the traffic converts. nothing new going on here.

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10-25-2008, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Mr Pheer

This is the same shit that people were crying when TGP sites first started becoming popular.

except conversion rates dropped by 50% or more since then? or no?

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10-25-2008, 04:22 PM

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except conversion rates dropped by 50% or more since then? or no?

I'd say more than 50%. This was a time when online video wasnt popular because there wasnt much of it to begin with, and most people still had dialup connections. Shit has just adapted so now tube sites are replacing the tgp sites. And those of us that were in the business making killer, easy money before all this shit started, are looking around and wondering why did everyone fuck it up.

But the shit that people are saying about tube sites killing porn signups now, we heard it all before when someone thought a TGP was a good idea.

Back then i didnt do TGP sites cause i just thought they were horrible, and all i saw was horrible conversion rates that everyone complained about. But fuck it, this time I'm jumping on the tube wagon... already have 2 online, and building more.

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10-25-2008, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

there was never a point in this biz where that couldn't have been said "everyone i know finds free porn by going to....." - just because tube sites exist, doesn't mean these life and death "issues" weren't being complained about before. people were always finding all the free pics/vids etc that they wanted and the industry grew by leaps and bounds.

the funny thing about tube sites is that they are simply more of the same and they are making money. everyone keeps pretending they don't .. the fact of the matter is that they do. the traffic converts. nothing new going on here.

There is a difference.

Looking at a TGP or MGP and looking at a 30 second clip MAY get someone off. However going to a tube and watching a full free video that for sure will get you off is another story.

Sure tubes may make money but they are making it off of dating and cams. Not a lot of cash being made in pay site revenue for the tube models offering full videos. TEASER tubes for sure can sell memberships but full length video tubes, no way.

I'm not concerned with the tube site showing short teaser clips. THAT IS no different than the TGPs and MGPs. However I am concerned with the tubes that offer the whole shebang. If I can get your content for free, why would I want to pay for it? I wouldn't.
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10-25-2008, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

there was never a point in this biz where that couldn't have been said "everyone i know finds free porn by going to....."

Perhaps but this is the first time I've ever heard it. My friend were die hard porn consumers. For them to tell my they never buy anymore is a pretty bold statement.

Myself included, I no longer buy porn. I don't need to.
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10-25-2008, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

oh... well, a 10.00 an hour guy told one of the webs biggest lunatics something and conclusions about the state of the industry were reached.

fuck.

i guess there is nothing else to do but close down shop.

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10-25-2008, 05:13 PM

bottom line is tube sites that have full length videos are killing paysites.
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10-25-2008, 09:37 PM

Oh well. Next we'll be on the streets with signs

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10-26-2008, 01:50 AM

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10-26-2008, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by Mr Pheer

This is the same shit that people were crying when TGP sites first started becoming popular.

No, it's not. To my knowledge TGPs didn't steal all the content they could get their hands no

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10-26-2008, 04:18 AM

Ok at least I earn lots of money while killing it....

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10-26-2008, 05:43 PM

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Oh well. Next we'll be on the streets with signs

Will shoot porn for food lol

naaaa I would rather rob the tube owners. Much more fun
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10-26-2008, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by donnylong

Today I had a alarm installed in my studio and we were shooting. The alarm company guy was shocked that we were shooting porn not because it was porn he said but because of tube sites. He asked who in their right mind would pay for porn when he gets it all day for free on pornhub and all the other porn tube sites. Tubes are going to kill the business so I got something for all you tube owners

Well if producer stop making porn tube sites will fail because there won't be any new content. Now before someone says there's plenty of content already on tube sites to last a lifetime, then ask yourself this. How come peolpe watch mostly NEW porn and not 70s, 80s or 90s porn? If porn is porn then ALL porn should be popular. Sure old porn is a niche and does have an audience, but it's small one. Mainly old guys. No 20 year old wants to watch Linda Lovelace suck Harry Reems dick. Why do girls have to make HUNDREDS of films? You'd think they have neough content to sastify all thier fans. After all isn't one anal fuck scene the same as the other 200 anal fuck scene some girl did? Sure, but guys want FRESH content.

Also tube sites basically suck. I've been to plenty. Quality sucks and seaching for exactly what you want is near impossible. All basically have the same old shit every other tube site has. Sure plenty of guys can get off on tube sites content just like they could get off on pics on TGPs 8-10 years ago. Those guys are never going to be buyers anyways.

Sites like Hulu are basically a mainstream versions of porn tube sites. Hulu and sites like it actually INCREASE ratings for shows not decrease them.

Also more and more people stream internet based content to their TVs. Trust me, porn tube content looks like crap on a 50 in HDTV or even a 32 in HDTV.
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10-26-2008, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

There is a difference.

Looking at a TGP or MGP and looking at a 30 second clip MAY get someone off. However going to a tube and watching a full free video that for sure will get you off is another story.

Sure tubes may make money but they are making it off of dating and cams. Not a lot of cash being made in pay site revenue for the tube models offering full videos. TEASER tubes for sure can sell memberships but full length video tubes, no way.

I'm not concerned with the tube site showing short teaser clips. THAT IS no different than the TGPs and MGPs. However I am concerned with the tubes that offer the whole shebang. If I can get your content for free, why would I want to pay for it? I wouldn't.

my view is that there are some timeless truths that people should warm up to rather than fighting/stressing about the natural course of things:

you can't stop free content

you can't stop other sites from doing what they are doing

you can stop others from stealing your content for the most part (although its a bitch)

you can't stop the consumer from moving in the direction of seeking out what they want

you can't stop others from giving that surfer what they want

you can make the choice to be the one of the ones giving them what they want
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