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Parents Help 23 Year Old Son Commit Suicide

10-18-2008, 09:28 AM

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I agree with it although there are a lot of people agaisnt it but if you want to die then so be it.

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10-18-2008, 09:35 AM

They brought him into the world, they should be able to help take him out of it.
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10-18-2008, 09:36 AM

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They brought him into the world, they should be able to help take him out of it.

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10-18-2008, 09:36 AM

Very brave parents, if he wanted to go and he couldnt do it himself then I do not see a problem with his parents helping him.

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10-18-2008, 09:40 AM

The accident was barely a year ago... I wonder what the extent of the parallelization was.

Man it really would suck to live as a second-class citizen.

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10-18-2008, 09:42 AM

I think given these circumstances, then yes the parents assistance should not be questioned.

If a kid was just messed up in the head because of friends, school, etc. then I'd think twice before just helping my kid kill their self.

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10-18-2008, 09:50 AM

It is wrong and very sad.......

Many people with disabilities live very good and productive lives.
I realize the family was distraught over this horrible accident, but they should not have helped their child kill himself. I hope the parents go to prison........
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10-18-2008, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Eriic

I realize the family was distraught over this horrible accident, but they should not have helped their child kill himself. I hope the parents go to prison........

correct me if I am wrong, but nowhere in that article does it say anything about the parents "helping him commit suicide"

the guy had tried to kill himself multiple times and went to a clinic to do it.

I support his actions, you or no one on this planet should have the right to state whether someone can kill themself or not.

the parents did nothing, stop blaming them. theyve lived with this suicidal person for awhile, and he made his own choice regarding ending his own life. in fact he went to where it is LEGAL to do so.

good for him. may he rest in peace now.

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10-18-2008, 10:03 AM

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correct me if I am wrong, but nowhere in that article does it say anything about the parents "helping him commit suicide"

the guy had tried to kill himself multiple times and went to a clinic to do it.

I support his actions, you or no one on this planet should have the right to state whether someone can kill themself or not.

the parents did nothing, stop blaming them. theyve lived with this suicidal person for awhile, and he made his own choice regarding ending his own life. in fact he went to where it is LEGAL to do so.

good for him. may he rest in peace now.

They agreed with him and they brought him to the clinic so I would absolutely blame them. They all should have got counseling and that young man would still be alive today!
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10-18-2008, 10:04 AM

Sorry but I think it is weak. I know too many disabled people that push forward with their lives and still manage to make something of themselves and have a full life. Im not saying it wasn't hard for him, I can't even imagine, but seems like the weak way out. Watch 2 years from now when they discover some new treatment and he could of recovered (who knows its quite possible) how will his parents feel then?
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10-18-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Eriic

They agreed with him and they brought him to the clinic so I would absolutely blame them. They all should have got counseling and that young man would still be alive today!

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10-18-2008, 10:18 AM

more parents should cull their children gfy is proof of that $0.02

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10-18-2008, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Sly

The accident was barely a year ago... I wonder what the extent of the parallelization was.

Man it really would suck to live as a second-class citizen.

Yeah he barely gave it a chance. Sounds like there were deep issues.
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10-18-2008, 10:24 AM

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Sorry but I think it is weak. I know too many disabled people that push forward with their lives and still manage to make something of themselves and have a full life. Im not saying it wasn't hard for him, I can't even imagine, but seems like the weak way out. Watch 2 years from now when they discover some new treatment and he could of recovered (who knows its quite possible) how will his parents feel then?

He was paralyzed from the chest down, what normal life could he live? He could bob his head from side to side, i guess that made him feel just like everyone else...

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10-18-2008, 10:25 AM

Seriously an accident like that he was probably in the hospital and therapy clinics for up to six months... 12 months is such a blip of one's life it is not enough to base such a drastic decision on. Things like this can take years to even fully understand what happened... I think his parents should have tried harder. He was not in a state to make a decision like that.

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10-18-2008, 10:26 AM

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He was paralyzed from the chest down, what normal life could he live? He could bob his head from side to side, i guess that made him feel just like everyone else...

LOL... okay.

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10-18-2008, 10:30 AM

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He was paralyzed from the chest down, what normal life could he live? He could bob his head from side to side, i guess that made him feel just like everyone else...

You have an extremely narrow life view.

Tell that to Steven Hawkings. (not a fan of his opinions, but you have to respect the guy for his accomplishments)
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10-18-2008, 10:31 AM

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LOL... okay.

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10-18-2008, 10:35 AM

It's his life and no one has the right to tell him what to do with it...
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10-18-2008, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

You have an extremely narrow life view.

Tell that to Steven Hawkings. (not a fan of his opinions, but you have to respect the guy for his accomplishments)

Tell me how someone paralyzed from the chest down lives a normal life, you was comparing him to all your disabled friends who "live normal lives". Its not a good comparison to make, just like comparing an average guy to stephen hawkins isnt.

At the end of the day he tried to kill himself two times, with or without his parents he would of killed himself.

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10-18-2008, 10:46 AM

I'd say that is the most selfish reason to off yourself, but, hey, he was just a rugby player - who gives a fuck?

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10-18-2008, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Blazed

Tell me how someone paralyzed from the chest down lives a normal life, you was comparing him to all your disabled friends who "live normal lives". Its not a good comparison to make, just like comparing an average guy to stephen hawkins isnt.

At the end of the day he tried to kill himself two times, with or without his parents he would of killed himself.

Sorry but his parents needed to be strong for him. Of course his mental health went to shit after his accident. Of course. It doesn't mean he couldn't of got through it and found a way to live and enjoy life. I won't get into this much more as I am on my way out to enjoy the day for a while. If they guy could still see, talk, hear, respond, then there is lots of ways he could of made a dent in this thing called life. Not saying it would be easy for him at all, thats kind of the point. He took the easy way out, and his parents instead of being strong for him while his mental health recovers also took the easy way out.
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10-18-2008, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Blazed

At the end of the day he tried to kill himself two times, with or without his parents he would of killed himself.

Yeh, a lot of people try killing themselves multiple times and very rarely does somebody run off and try to help them. Particularly young people. These people are depressed and need help... just because they don't have an "ideal life" does not mean that they should not get the mental help that is given to "normal" people.

Would this guy live a "normal" life? No, he wouldn't. And neither do a lot of "regular" people.

Again, writing off a suicide as "understandable" simply because the guy is dealing with issues that most will never ever understand... does not make it right.

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10-18-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Sorry but his parents needed to be strong for him. Of course his mental health went to shit after his accident. Of course. It doesn't mean he couldn't of got through it and found a way to live and enjoy life. I won't get into this much more as I am on my way out to enjoy the day for a while. If they guy could still see, talk, hear, respond, then there is lots of ways he could of made a dent in this thing called life. Not saying it would be easy for him at all, thats kind of the point. He took the easy way out, and his parents instead of being strong for him while his mental health recovers also took the easy way out.

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10-18-2008, 11:37 AM

While I do think that no one has the right to tell a person whether or not they can take their own life, I do think that 12 months is not nearly enough time after the accident to make such a drastic decision.

That being said, I'm pretty sure that if I ended up paralyzed from the chest down I would eventually want to kill myself. Regardless of what anyone says, your quality of life is going to plummet after an accident of that nature. Especially if you're an active, athletic person like he was.
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10-18-2008, 11:39 AM

I'm always in two minds about helping suicide
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10-18-2008, 12:40 PM

When all is said and done it was his life and therefore the decision, should have been, and was his to make.

Twelve months is a long time, it's not like this was an impulsive decision.

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10-18-2008, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Sorry but his parents needed to be strong for him. Of course his mental health went to shit after his accident. Of course. It doesn't mean he couldn't of got through it and found a way to live and enjoy life. I won't get into this much more as I am on my way out to enjoy the day for a while. If they guy could still see, talk, hear, respond, then there is lots of ways he could of made a dent in this thing called life. Not saying it would be easy for him at all, thats kind of the point. He took the easy way out, and his parents instead of being strong for him while his mental health recovers also took the easy way out.

I am pro-life and kinda agree with you on many points. My pro-life stance is personal though and the government should not interfere with the lives of family's personal decisions. I live my life pro-life but I do not impose my views on others.

I don't know what happened behind closed doors of that family but it must have been extreme for a decision on Euthanasia. I am sure Daniel James will come back since I believe in reincarnation.

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10-18-2008, 02:11 PM

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I am pro-life and kinda agree with you on many points. My pro-life stance is personal though and the government should not interfere with the lives of family's personal decisions. I live my life pro-life but I do not impose my views on others.

I don't know what happened behind closed doors of that family but it must have been extreme for a decision on Euthanasia. I am sure Daniel James will come back since I believe in reincarnation.

Ya its not so much a "pro-life" type thing in this situation for me. Its the fact that anyones mental health is going to goto shit after an accident like that. 12 months to come out of a depression after an accident like that is nowhere near enough time. I can see if say 5 years went by or more and he just couldn't get his head straight and he was getting worse or something, but even then I wouldn't be a big supporter of it. This situation seems a bit over the top. Then with all the exploration going into stem cells etc, who knows how soon a breakthrough may appear. I can't imagine being a parent that made that decision then realize their son could of been fixed at a later date. I don't think that he was anywhere near prepared to make a decision like that.
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10-18-2008, 02:16 PM

They made their own choices. I don't see how this can be debated if it was legal and with good intentions. What if it was you, would you want to live? Maybe -- but maybe not. If you didn't want to live and you kept attempting suicide, does the final answer and resolution not make sense?
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10-18-2008, 02:27 PM

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Ya its not so much a "pro-life" type thing in this situation for me. Its the fact that anyones mental health is going to goto shit after an accident like that. 12 months to come out of a depression after an accident like that is nowhere near enough time. I can see if say 5 years went by or more and he just couldn't get his head straight and he was getting worse or something, but even then I wouldn't be a big supporter of it. This situation seems a bit over the top. Then with all the exploration going into stem cells etc, who knows how soon a breakthrough may appear. I can't imagine being a parent that made that decision then realize their son could of been fixed at a later date. I don't think that he was anywhere near prepared to make a decision like that.

you see, when you take the time to explain yourself you dont sound as dumb (i mean republican)...

when you put it that way, sure, maybe he might be healed in the future..

in any case, i still think its up to the individual...
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10-18-2008, 02:59 PM

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10-18-2008, 03:04 PM

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10-18-2008, 03:26 PM

Too many people telling others what's right and what's wrong and how others should choose to live (or end) their lives.

Just because it's not right for you doesn't mean it's not right for him. Stop trying to make decisions for other people.
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10-18-2008, 03:36 PM

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I am sure Daniel James will come back since I believe in reincarnation.

I rather suspect that he and his family do (did) as well.

Perhaps you're right, who knows.

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10-18-2008, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Bama

Too many people telling others what's right and what's wrong and how others should choose to live (or end) their lives.

Just because it's not right for you doesn't mean it's not right for him. Stop trying to make decisions for other people.

I wouldn't of made the decision for him even if I could. That is his place, and in this case, his parents place to decide. However, that doesn't make it a dumb ass thing to do. Its simply my opinion on it.
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10-18-2008, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Blazed

He was paralyzed from the chest down, what normal life could he live? He could bob his head from side to side, i guess that made him feel just like everyone else...

First define normal please. While your at it please let everyone know who feels like everyone else and how does that feel. Does it apply to short people, tall people, fat people, people with acne, red hair, so forth.

Originally posted by Blazed

Tell me how someone paralyzed from the chest down lives a normal life, you was comparing him to all your disabled friends who "live normal lives". Its not a good comparison to make, just like comparing an average guy to stephen hawkins isnt.

At the end of the day he tried to kill himself two times, with or without his parents he would of killed himself.

Asking to be told about someone who lives a "normal" life and then saying you can not compare X, and Y because that is not a good comparison makes no sense, if they do live "normal lives".

A little for your information while your at it. Chest down does not mean bobbing ones head around, that would be neck down or higher. Chest down would put him in the same sub category as a paraplegic, especially if he had tried suicide a few times before. Gives you a good indicator that he is not some quadriplegic who tried to hold a razor in his mouth and slice his own throat.

As for the parents, they matter not in this article. He was an adult. The best they could of done was support him when he met with his condition. Clearly it states that it was him that could not come to grips with his own condition. He had his own issues, issues well beyond what he could or could not do.

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10-18-2008, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Ya its not so much a "pro-life" type thing in this situation for me. Its the fact that anyones mental health is going to goto shit after an accident like that. 12 months to come out of a depression after an accident like that is nowhere near enough time. I can see if say 5 years went by or more and he just couldn't get his head straight and he was getting worse or something, but even then I wouldn't be a big supporter of it. This situation seems a bit over the top. Then with all the exploration going into stem cells etc, who knows how soon a breakthrough may appear. I can't imagine being a parent that made that decision then realize their son could of been fixed at a later date. I don't think that he was anywhere near prepared to make a decision like that.

More presumptions. A year is not long- then again it is an eternity, 5 years... nah the choice is set well before then. You know your outcome long before that.

Stemcells, robotics, whatever- that is the future. That is a maybe. That is more therapy. That alone is not a reason nor excuse. There would be no 100% fix, nor is it a mindset that someone even needs to be fixed. That would be up to the person and should be on the minds of no one else around them really (naturally doctors, scientists, such excluded).

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10-18-2008, 04:04 PM

I am glad the parents helped their son commit suicide. It's good to see that these two weren't so selfish as to let their kid who wanted to die to continue living a miserable life.
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10-18-2008, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Eriic

They agreed with him and they brought him to the clinic so I would absolutely blame them. They all should have got counseling and that young man would still be alive today!

its not someone's DUTY to be alive. your comment makes no sense.

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