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  • DVTimes
    xxx
    • Jun 2003
    • 31650

    #1

    Porn Tube sites have killed porn

    Would you get into porn now?

    I do not think I would.

    Tube Porn sites have killed porn.
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  • Supz
    Arthur Flegenheimer
    • Jul 2006
    • 11057

    #2
    why dont you just make a tube site.

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    • Fat Panda
      Porn is Dead. Move along.
      • Aug 2006
      • 13296

      #3
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      • xmas13
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        • Dec 2004
        • 5176

        #4
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        • Eriic
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          • Jan 2008
          • 2995

          #5
          Start a documentary about how the economy + tubsites have killed porn and webmasters have to turn to minimum wage jobs cause they don't have viable skills in real life and how many will end up on welfare and still be employed at Walmart......

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          • SomeCreep
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            • Mar 2003
            • 26118

            #6
            Tube sites haven't killed porn, but they've definitely helped to worsen conversion ratios.

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            • EXPORT
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              • Nov 2006
              • 1345

              #7
              not only...but also xxxjay killed porn

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              • brassmonkey
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                • Sep 2005
                • 77390

                #8
                people want it fast and tube sites have the videos right there some have full videos
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                • Intervader
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                  • Oct 2006
                  • 242

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SomeCreep
                  Tube sites haven't killed porn, but they've definitely helped to worsen conversion ratios.

                  That depends on what your promoting. By selling unique products, tube sites will not effect your revenue as much. Examples of this are cam sites, dating and our 3D Sex World
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                  • CherryV
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                    • Apr 2007
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                    #10
                    If tube sites killed porn they would soon have no content to update with.
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                    • camgirlshide
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                      • Jan 2005
                      • 1558

                      #11
                      I still don't understand why the following policies are not in effect:

                      1. If you see a tube site sign up for your program and start sending you traffic - immediately drop them for a TOS violation and do not send them any money.
                      2. If you see a sponsor you promote not follow #1, immediate drop them and stop sending them any traffic.
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                      • camgirlshide
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                        • Jan 2005
                        • 1558

                        #12
                        To go along with my previous message - I noticed one affiliate program which has several sites listed on my sites has a 36 5 minute movies posted on tube#. Now, we all know that since every other video on tube# is 15 to 30 min long they certainly don't own this content. Why this particular program believes they can make money by interleaving their 5 min preview videos in the middle of all this stolen content is beyond me. I am now removing all of their links from my sites.

                        Hopefully this particular program will re-evaluate their priorities and we can work together in the future.

                        p.s. -
                        I say tube# and don't name the affiliate program because I don't believe either deserves the advertising that comes with a mention by name
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                        • farkedup
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                          • Nov 2007
                          • 2490

                          #13
                          poor baby, now just go start a tube of your own and QUIT WHINING! evolve or get a real job!

                          This is just like TGP's back in the day, some will survive but lots won't...
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                          • camgirlshide
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                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1558

                            #14
                            Originally posted by farkedup
                            poor baby, now just go start a tube of your own and QUIT WHINING! evolve or get a real job!

                            This is just like TGP's back in the day, some will survive but lots won't...
                            Nothing wrong with starting a tube site
                            I wouldn't be advocating starting one that steals content though
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                            • papill0n
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                              • Oct 2007
                              • 15547

                              #15
                              thanks for letting us know

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                              • Fap
                                Just Du It
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 12094

                                #16
                                ..or they opened up a new door. theyre the next gen tgp

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                                • abyss_al
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                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 15605

                                  #17
                                  prechecks kill porn not tubes
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                                  • webdeke
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                                    • Oct 2008
                                    • 79

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by abyss_al
                                    prechecks kill porn not tubes
                                    ridiculous pricing spawned the tube phenomenon --

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                                    • L-Pink
                                      working on my tan
                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 39151

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by webdeke
                                      ridiculous pricing spawned the tube phenomenon --
                                      Hahaha ..... yea the thieving pricks that own most big tubesites steal their content that's what keeps prices down.

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                                      • abyss_al
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                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 15605

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by webdeke
                                        ridiculous pricing spawned the tube phenomenon --

                                        no, webmasters demanding higher payouts did
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                                        • WarChild
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                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 17263

                                          #21
                                          I convert tube traffic at a much better ratio than I do TGP traffic. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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                                          • freshxxxmovie
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                                            • Feb 2006
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                                            #22
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                                            • Brad Mitchell
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                                              • Nov 2001
                                              • 9813

                                              #23
                                              I spent 2 hours the other night surfing one of my client's tube sites. I have to be honest, there's no question why they are killing sales and getting all the traffic. To call them sticky would be the understatement of the year!

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                                              • XXXMovie4M
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                                                • Sep 2008
                                                • 359

                                                #24
                                                just give tubes sites enough time and they will be out of business. tube sites attract cheap people so any upsales they have will be useless. it's like trying to sell tenderloin steaks at the soup kitchen.

                                                they'll eventually lose their asses on bandwidth charges and poor upsales.

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                                                • SKULL
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                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 1953

                                                  #25
                                                  surfers love tube sites.... a lot of us hate them ... they do hurt conversions
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                                                  • XXXMovie4M
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                                                    • Sep 2008
                                                    • 359

                                                    #26
                                                    so if the conversions are bad with paysites, how bad do you think they are with tube site upsales?

                                                    it's just a matter of time before they fail.

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                                                    • Jens Van Assterdam
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                                                      • Feb 2008
                                                      • 6677

                                                      #27
                                                      Bullshit.
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                                                      • halfpint
                                                        GFY's Halfpint
                                                        • Jun 2007
                                                        • 15223

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by XXXMovie4M
                                                        so if the conversions are bad with paysites, how bad do you think they are with tube site upsales?

                                                        it's just a matter of time before they fail.
                                                        You are very wrong. The small sponsor tube sites with short clips will disapear unless they are niche tube sites, The big tubes will continue and make even more money. Why do you think they upsell cams, dating, poker, pills ect because you cant get these for free, so people pay to join these types of sites plus ontop of that they make money from advertising. If you put ads in your movies they generate a lot of revenue too. The big tubes most prob make a lot more money than the average paysite and they aint gonna go any where anytime soon as I see it.

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                                                        • BVF
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                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 13975

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by allanuk
                                                          Would you get into porn now?

                                                          I do not think I would.

                                                          Tube Porn sites have killed porn.
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                                                          • cognitos
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                                                            • Jun 2006
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                                                            #30
                                                            Rewind a few years, and the manufacturers of everything steam powered were saying how the diesel engine had destroyed the locomotive industry. Diesel engines were powered by oil stolen by colonial powers from remote locations such as Iran and Iraq.

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                                                            • ADL Colin
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                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                              • 11929

                                                              #31
                                                              say whaaaaaaat! Porn tubes = $$$$.


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                                                              • Mr. Porn
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                                                                • Oct 2006
                                                                • 975

                                                                #32
                                                                me not agree...


                                                                me see long term effect...



                                                                me feel tube site owners makin $$$$$$$$$$$ 2 years from now...



                                                                errrr legitimate tubesites...
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                                                                • _andy_
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                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                  • 487

                                                                  #33
                                                                  The fact that hardcore porn is readily available to minors via tube sites is pretty unbelievable. I would think that eventually there would be a law passed against them.

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                                                                  • vidvicious
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                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 4765

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Shady business practices killed the adult market .. Tubes are just a new part of that.
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                                                                    • Mr. Porn
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                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                      • 975

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by _andy_
                                                                      The fact that hardcore porn is readily available to minors via tube sites is pretty unbelievable. I would think that eventually there would be a law passed against them.


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                                                                      • WarChild
                                                                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                        • 17263

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by XXXMovie4M
                                                                        just give tubes sites enough time and they will be out of business. tube sites attract cheap people so any upsales they have will be useless. it's like trying to sell tenderloin steaks at the soup kitchen.

                                                                        they'll eventually lose their asses on bandwidth charges and poor upsales.
                                                                        You really have no idea what you're talking about. You're just saying things and hoping it's true.
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                                                                        • nardegas
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                                                                          • Oct 2008
                                                                          • 9

                                                                          #37
                                                                          All paysites should put 1 dollars per month!!

                                                                          untill the tube sites quit!
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                                                                          • Jens Van Assterdam
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                                                                            • Feb 2008
                                                                            • 6677

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by XXXMovie4M
                                                                            just give tubes sites enough time and they will be out of business. tube sites attract cheap people so any upsales they have will be useless. it's like trying to sell tenderloin steaks at the soup kitchen.

                                                                            they'll eventually lose their asses on bandwidth charges and poor upsales.
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                                                                            • count of monte cristo
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                                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                                              • 473

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                                              I spent 2 hours the other night surfing one of my client's tube sites. I have to be honest, there's no question why they are killing sales and getting all the traffic. To call them sticky would be the understatement of the year!

                                                                              Brad
                                                                              i did the same thing. the trend seems similar to what napster was for free music. unsettling.
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                                                                              • ADL Colin
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                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 11929

                                                                                #40
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                                                                                • fujiko
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                                                                                  • Jan 2008
                                                                                  • 566

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  the only people supportin tubes, are these idiots that are trying to sell their stink ass scripts.
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                                                                                  • SykkBoy2
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                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 19969

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Eriic
                                                                                    Start a documentary about how the economy + tubsites have killed porn and webmasters have to turn to minimum wage jobs cause they don't have viable skills in real life and how many will end up on welfare and still be employed at Walmart......
                                                                                    who are you kidding? most people in this industry are way underqualified to work at Walmart...they'd be more apt to become one of those sign twirler guys who stand on street corners twirling big oversized signs for real estate companies and shitty pizza places...
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                                                                                    • tranza
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                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 57559

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Are you going to leave porn because of it?
                                                                                      I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                      • ADL Colin
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                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 11929

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Sure, just like Wal Mart killed Circuit City and hundreds of other businesses. And the whole thing was well-documented all the way from the start. And what was Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart was THE low-cost provider.

                                                                                        What is the #1 thing you should have done in 1985 armed with that knowledge? I'd go with BUY WAL MART stock.



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                                                                                        • RTP
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by ADL Colin

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                                                                                          • CHMOD
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                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 1697

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                            I convert tube traffic at a much better ratio than I do TGP traffic. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

                                                                                            GFY is well known for having a lot of brainless idiots posting.

                                                                                            I have been reading many posts from you and I have to say :
                                                                                            Upon all of these idiots, you really win the grand prize.

                                                                                            You are so fucking stupid it is not even funny. I even sometimes feel sorry fo you.
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                                                                                            • WarChild
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                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                              • 17263

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by CHMOD
                                                                                              GFY is well known for having a lot of brainless idiots posting.

                                                                                              I have been reading many posts from you and I have to say :
                                                                                              Upon all of these idiots, you really win the grand prize.

                                                                                              You are so fucking stupid it is not even funny. I even sometimes feel sorry fo you.
                                                                                              The good thing is that you don't know it. It seems like you even think you are brilliant.


                                                                                              You NEVER EVER have anything interresting to say, you always critizise everyone,
                                                                                              trying to (cause you never really succeeded, I mean..no one finds you funny but your own self) to make fun of people.

                                                                                              Man are you annoying. And useless. You are a piece of garbage. It is the last thing I will ever write to you and I won't even come back to read your stupid reply.
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                                                                                              • mynameisjim
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                                                                                                • Aug 2007
                                                                                                • 2985

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                                                                                Sure, just like Wal Mart killed Circuit City and hundreds of other businesses. And the whole thing was well-documented all the way from the start. And what was Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart was THE low-cost provider.

                                                                                                What is the #1 thing you should have done in 1985 armed with that knowledge? I'd go with BUY WAL MART stock.
                                                                                                Not sure I follow you here. Wal Mart is a legal business. I think the problem people have with tube sites is they are all illegal.

                                                                                                If Wal Mart employees broke into other stores at night, stole their inventory, then sold it via Wal Mart stores it would be an appropriate analogy.
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                                                                                                • Twistys Tim
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by mynameisjim
                                                                                                  Not sure I follow you here. Wal Mart is a legal business. I think the problem people have with tube sites is they are all illegal.

                                                                                                  If Wal Mart employees broke into other stores at night, stole their inventory, then sold it via Wal Mart stores it would be an appropriate analogy.
                                                                                                  Wal-Mart have got very rich by purchasing the merchandise they sell from markets where there are very loose or non-existent labor laws. One of the bonuses for Wal-Mart was that they could employ children in these markets, and pay them a pittance. It is only when Wal-Mart get caught, and shamed, that they stop using child labor. If nobody cared about kids making stuff for Wal-Mart to sell, then Wal-Mart would have continued and expanded the use of child labor. They got caught, they said sorry, and promised to not get caught again. Many large companies use a model where the profits are measured against a possible average fine, and if they can break the law for 10-years and make off like bandits before getting caught and fined, then they will make off like bandits.


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                                                                                                  • mynameisjim
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Twistys Tim
                                                                                                    Wal-Mart have got very rich by purchasing the merchandise they sell from markets where there are very loose or non-existent labor laws. One of the bonuses for Wal-Mart was that they could employ children in these markets, and pay them a pittance. It is only when Wal-Mart get caught, and shamed, that they stop using child labor. If nobody cared about kids making stuff for Wal-Mart to sell, then Wal-Mart would have continued and expanded the use of child labor. They got caught, they said sorry, and promised to not get caught again. Many large companies use a model where the profits are measured against a possible average fine, and if they can break the law for 10-years and make off like bandits before getting caught and fined, then they will make off like bandits.
                                                                                                    Somewhat true. But you are bringing up a totally separate topic. Not to mention, the smaller stores Wal Mart "put out of business" were all selling the same products made in third world countries with loose labor laws. Wal Mart was just able to buy more of it at a lower cost.

                                                                                                    But still, are you suggesting because Wal Mart at one time used child labor that tube sites should be able to steal content as a legitimate business model. I fail to see the connection.
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