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  • Overload
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    • Jul 2005
    • 3185
    #1

    Geo pricing kills european sales ...

    whats wrong with program owners these days?
    i mean, charging ?29,95 is whackin crap already,
    but charging US surfers $29,95 and euro surfers
    a whoppin ?39,95 for the SAME site is hilarious!
    do ya think money grows on trees in europe? hey,
    thats a killing $60 per MONTH? are you outta
    control? ... this sucks balls big time ...
    rethink folks ... and make some reasonable prices
    for euro surfers to make more sales

    all the best

    OL' - BraveD.
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    There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.
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    • BiggleJones
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      • Dec 2002
      • 2276
      #2
      Your poll is flawed. There's no option saying it improves sales....cause it does.

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        • Overload
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          • Jul 2005
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          #3
          Originally posted by BiggleJones
          Your poll is flawed. There's no option saying it improves sales....cause it does.
          sure, because all europeans are brain dead and pissing away
          a whoppin $60 with joy ... ridiculous reply, sorry
          There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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            • Overload
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              • Jul 2005
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              #4
              Originally posted by BiggleJones
              Your poll is flawed. There's no option saying it improves sales....cause it does.
              oh, nice idea ... show me your sales stats by COUNTRY!
              There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                • After Shock Media
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                  • Mar 2001
                  • 35299
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Overload
                  sure, because all europeans are brain dead and pissing away
                  a whoppin $60 with joy ... ridiculous reply, sorry
                  For many the numbers say otherwise.

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                    • TommyM
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                      • May 2001
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                      #6
                      yup I would say it increases sales without a doubt

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                        • miss_jody
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by TommyM
                          yup I would say it increases sales without a doubt
                          agreed

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                            • Overload
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                              • Jul 2005
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by TommyM
                              yup I would say it increases sales without a doubt
                              show me proof ... heck, for $60, a euro surfer could
                              sign up for TWO sites ...
                              There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                • Overload
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                                  #9
                                  take a look at your own shopping habits and see the diff.....assuming you are smart enuff to shop and compare
                                  There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                    • borked
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                                      • Feb 2005
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                                      #10
                                      see:
                                      http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...gional+billing

                                      just frikken give the people the price in $ - they all pay with CCs which are multi-currency fer gods sake.

                                      Just more conning the surfer...

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                                        • xmas13
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                                          Ignore them, next year they'll be back at their job at Burger King or in their parents' basement.
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                                            • count of monte cristo
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                                              • Sep 2004
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                                              #12
                                              it may hurt sales a tiny bit, but the increase in $$$ makes it all worth it
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                                                • Overload
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by count of monte cristo
                                                  it may hurt sales a tiny bit, but the increase in $$$ makes it all worth it
                                                  total BS! the only one making more green is the sponsor! or do ya think ya make more $$$ if a euro surfer signs up?

                                                  look, you meet twin hookers ... same look, same body shape, all equal ... one of them asks for $100 for a fuck, the other $200 ... which wud ya book for the shove? the $100 chick, for TWO times
                                                  There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                    • Overload
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by borked
                                                      see:
                                                      http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...gional+billing

                                                      just frikken give the people the price in $ - they all pay with CCs which are multi-currency fer gods sake.

                                                      Just more conning the surfer...
                                                      100% agreed ... sponsors charging
                                                      euro users more are just greedy filth
                                                      There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                        • Supz
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                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                          • 11057
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Overload
                                                          show me proof ... heck, for $60, a euro surfer could
                                                          sign up for TWO sites ...
                                                          stop saying its $60, because its not. Do you think the Europeans think how much money there network is in American Dollars. Or when they go to buy something they say how much cheaper it is in the US?

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                                                            • Overload
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by supzdotcom
                                                              stop saying its $60, because its not. Do you think the Europeans think how much money there network is in American Dollars. Or when they go to buy something they say how much cheaper it is in the US?
                                                              it IS a fucking $60 ... clearly shows to me you have no idea how wrecked the dollar is! people in europe know DAMN WELL what the exchange rate is man! do ya think we are dumb or what? why shud a european user pay more in the first place? huh? it makes NO sense at all! or do ya think turkish people pay in LIRA for porn? surely not ... use your brain dammit
                                                              Last edited by Overload; 10-15-2008, 04:39 PM.
                                                              There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                • Overload
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html
                                                                  There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                    • Sly
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                                                                      • Sep 2004
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Overload
                                                                      it IS a fucking $60 ... clearly shows to me you have no idea how wrecked the dollar is! people in europe know DAMN WELL what the exchange rate is man! do ya think we are dumb or what? why shud a european user pay more in the first place? huh? it makes NO sense at all! or do ya think turkish people pay in LIRA for porn? surely not ... use your brain dammit
                                                                      Europeans walk around and think to themselves "what would this cost in USD?"
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                                                                        • Mark_E4A
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          on my join pages 29$ USD shows up a 18 EU
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                                                                            • Overload
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Mark_E4A
                                                                              on my join pages 29$ USD shows up a 18 EU
                                                                              that'd be reasonable and acceptable, but i see a ?24,95 on your join pages? hum?
                                                                              There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                                • Overload
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                  Europeans walk around and think to themselves "what would this cost in USD?"
                                                                                  not really ... but serious ... WE DO KNOW a EURO is 1,5$ ... and without us (germans) the US would have no NASA or A-Bomb, so do ya think we are that dumb?
                                                                                  There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                                    • Nautilus
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                                                                                      • 1631
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      If it sells at that price, why not charging it. That would be flawed only if that meant lesser bottomline from European sales.

                                                                                      It's business man, not sort of communist "justice for all".
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                                                                                        • Overload
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Nautilus
                                                                                          If it sells at that price, why not charging it. That would be flawed only if that meant lesser bottomline from European sales.

                                                                                          It's business man, not sort of communist "justice for all".
                                                                                          now, ask yourself ... wud euro surfers buy at $60 or rather at $30?
                                                                                          self explaining, aint it? get your sponsors geo stats and see ...
                                                                                          euro surfers piss on such expensive sites ... besides ...
                                                                                          it does NOT sell at that price or very rarely ... YOU, the affiliates
                                                                                          are fucked over by geo (over)pricing ... the sponsors make a lotta
                                                                                          more green, but YOU as their promoter are paid in dollars ... got me?
                                                                                          Last edited by Overload; 10-15-2008, 06:29 PM.
                                                                                          There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                                            • Tempest
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                                                                                              • May 2004
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              The programs don't care.. they want the money today.. as more and more european porn buyers clue in and stop buying, those same programs will be forced to change things but by then the damage will have been done.

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                                                                                                • Overload
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Tempest
                                                                                                  The programs don't care.. they want the money today.. as more and more european porn buyers clue in and stop buying, those same programs will be forced to change things but by then the damage will have been done.
                                                                                                  well worded tempest, i tip my hat to ya
                                                                                                  There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                                                    • Overload
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      to those who voted "doesnt affect my sales" ... show your stats lined up by COUNTRY! i bet my bony ass your sales suck big time on the euro market ... there are way more citizens in the EU than US, so show me proof you make MORE sales to EU users than US folks ... now, put your evidence (traceable and proof) here ...
                                                                                                      There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                                                        • CamTraffic
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                                                                                                            • Overload
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              i slowly get the picture ... most people didnt really read my post but only saw the poll ... the reason why i think geopricing sucks, is, because many sponsors use it in a way that fucks euro surfers over ...

                                                                                                              example: US member pays lets say $29,95 - EU member pays €29,95, which equals to about $45 ... means, the euro surfer pays 1,5x of what a US members pays! why on earth? the worst i saw was $29,95/€39,95 which means the EU member pays about 2x ... THATs why i think geopricing (in most cases) has a negative effect on the sales ... well, why charge by country currency anyways? ppl pay with their CC and thats multicurrency payment ...
                                                                                                              There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                                                                • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by count of monte cristo
                                                                                                                  it may hurt sales a tiny bit, but the increase in $$$ makes it all worth it
                                                                                                                  yeah, only you don't see any of this because the sponsor is paying you the standard $30 (or whatever) on all sales.

                                                                                                                  sponsor gets to keep the difference

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                                                                                                                    • spooky181
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      How can anybody possibly think it's good for sales to charge more in Europe???

                                                                                                                      I own two sites, and for example one of my sites I charge $29.99 USD and charge 24.99 Euro, so that it works out roughly the same. Just seems fair and commonsense to not delibrately rip people off from certain zones...

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                                                                                                                        • Overload
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by spooky181
                                                                                                                          How can anybody possibly think it's good for sales to charge more in Europe???

                                                                                                                          I own two sites, and for example one of my sites I charge $29.99 USD and charge 24.99 Euro, so that it works out roughly the same. Just seems fair and commonsense to not delibrately rip people off from certain zones...
                                                                                                                          1000% agreed ... why charge euro surfers more?
                                                                                                                          or, do people from turkiye pay 29,95 in LIRA?
                                                                                                                          do they?! i really doubt it
                                                                                                                          There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                                                                            • TidalWave
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                                                                                                                              • Sep 2007
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              why not stop promoting US sponsors for your euro traffic then? you can use geo-targetting of your own, and push EU traffic to your EU sponsors
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                                                                                                                                • Finike
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I am doing very well with the geo pricing - the percentage of € customers increased slightly
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                                                                                                                                    • Biggy
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      What if its priced at 19-23 Euro?

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                                                                                                                                        • poornpig
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TidalWave
                                                                                                                                          why not stop promoting US sponsors for your euro traffic then? you can use geo-targetting of your own, and push EU traffic to your EU sponsors
                                                                                                                                          Seems like "World Police" wants to seperate from the rest of the world.

                                                                                                                                          Is it the same like with the humanitarian aids from EU for the victims of catrina? EU bread is not good enough for US citizens... Its better to burn up the stuff.
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                                                                                                                                            • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              no

                                                                                                                                              euro sales are better then ever and a nice chunky $40 almost on that 29.95 euro

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                                                                                                                                                    • rowan
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                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2002
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                                                      Europeans walk around and think to themselves "what would this cost in USD?"
                                                                                                                                                      People who regularly purchase memberships (or even the occasional purchaser) would know how much the $29.95 membership used to cost them, and smell something funny when they see a join page with a much higher effective price in Euros.

                                                                                                                                                      Regional pricing is another one of those short term $, long term effect things like prechecked xsells. Enjoy it while you can.

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                                                                                                                                                        • LadyMischief
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Billing customers in their local currency at a price that is sustainable in their own local economies isn't dumb at all. Even when the cost is a little more, sometimes consumers just appreciate that someone is catering to them. If not, they move on

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                                                                                                                                                            • Khun
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Overload
                                                                                                                                                              whats wrong with program owners these days?
                                                                                                                                                              i mean, charging ?29,95 is whackin crap already,
                                                                                                                                                              but charging US surfers $29,95 and euro surfers
                                                                                                                                                              a whoppin ?39,95 for the SAME site is hilarious!
                                                                                                                                                              do ya think money grows on trees in europe? hey,
                                                                                                                                                              thats a killing $60 per MONTH? are you outta
                                                                                                                                                              control? ... this sucks balls big time ...
                                                                                                                                                              rethink folks ... and make some reasonable prices
                                                                                                                                                              for euro surfers to make more sales
                                                                                                                                                              LAWL. This post makes me think of the good ole' quote "So sayeth the Surfer, so sayeth the LORD!" If you dont like it, dont pay it.
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                                                                                                                                                                • sperbonzo
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                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Overload
                                                                                                                                                                  whats wrong with program owners these days?
                                                                                                                                                                  i mean, charging ?29,95 is whackin crap already,
                                                                                                                                                                  but charging US surfers $29,95 and euro surfers
                                                                                                                                                                  a whoppin ?39,95 for the SAME site is hilarious!
                                                                                                                                                                  do ya think money grows on trees in europe? hey,
                                                                                                                                                                  thats a killing $60 per MONTH? are you outta
                                                                                                                                                                  control? ... this sucks balls big time ...
                                                                                                                                                                  rethink folks ... and make some reasonable prices
                                                                                                                                                                  for euro surfers to make more sales

                                                                                                                                                                  all the best

                                                                                                                                                                  OL' - BraveD.
                                                                                                                                                                  Shouldn't the point here be that, If you have a better business model, then use it, and garner more of the market share? YOU are free to not do business with programs whose pricing you disagree with, just as surfers are also free to chose.

                                                                                                                                                                  I would think that since you know better regarding the EU market, that you would view the situation as a wonderful opportunity to do a lot of business for yourself, rather than a reason to get mad at someone else for doing it differently!


                                                                                                                                                                  Maybe this is a little outside the box thinking here, but when I see other companies doing things that I think are counterproductive, or bad for business, then I go the other direction, and try to take the market share from them by doing it better. I certainly DON'T get mad at them for doing something that brings more customers to me by contrast!


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                                                                                                                                                                    • slapass
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      This is crazy. He makes a poll so that people think he wanted info. Lots of people came in and gave it and he argues with them. Maybe that is why europeans pay more?

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                                                                                                                                                                        • TheDoc
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Who is charging $30 USD and it's converting to $60 Euro?

                                                                                                                                                                          Most of us use Epoch, CCBill or Local Billing.. So whatever theory you have about $60 memberships is bullshit.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • HorseShit
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              don't really care either way but doesn't seem like a bad thing

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Overload
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                  Who is charging $30 USD and it's converting to $60 Euro?

                                                                                                                                                                                  Most of us use Epoch, CCBill or Local Billing.. So whatever theory you have about $60 memberships is bullshit.
                                                                                                                                                                                  dude, i AM from europe, and when a
                                                                                                                                                                                  site charges me ?39,95, that equals to way over $55; NOT theory,
                                                                                                                                                                                  hard EVIDENCE!
                                                                                                                                                                                  There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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