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Would you say this sponsor is COOKING the BOOKS?

10-14-2008, 12:34 AM

This is about statistical anomolies, not outing a sponsor I suspect of cheating.

I've not done much with these guys for a while, but still have half a dozen sites with their content making up the majority of the sites. It more than pays the hosting / registering costs, but lately is really pissing me off.

In the last 3 weeks, zero sales. Up until then, I've averaged a sale ever other day this year. Not massive, but I haven't really touched the sites for several years, and most still rank for their phrases, or thereabouts.

Does something look fishy to anyone else?

Date Raw Unq Signups Rebills Earned
6/13/2008 267 217 2 3 $54.94
6/14/2008 228 183 2 0 $28.44
6/15/2008 234 173 0 0 $1.50
6/16/2008 260 210 0 1 $16.45
6/17/2008 251 203 1 2 $125.89
6/18/2008 238 198 0 0 $0.00
6/19/2008 233 182 0 1 $14.95
6/20/2008 245 194 0 1 $20.91
6/21/2008 263 223 0 1 $14.97
6/22/2008 225 190 1 1 $31.42
6/23/2008 225 185 1 2 $41.84
6/24/2008 288 229 2 1 $24.96
6/25/2008 245 204 2 4 $96.76
6/26/2008 254 208 0 1 $17.92
6/27/2008 245 204 0 0 $0.00
6/28/2008 243 205 0 1 $14.87
6/29/2008 219 182 2 1 $49.93
6/30/2008 243 180 1 0 ($45.81)
7/1/2008 212 178 0 0 $1.50
7/2/2008 213 164 0 1 $16.47
7/3/2008 207 164 0 2 $32.42
7/4/2008 184 157 0 0 $1.50
7/5/2008 196 166 0 0 $0.00
7/6/2008 216 165 1 1 $32.93
7/7/2008 215 166 0 2 $29.90
7/8/2008 262 212 0 0 $0.00
7/9/2008 224 178 0 1 $14.95
7/10/2008 201 152 1 0 $14.95
7/11/2008 222 170 2 0 $31.96
7/12/2008 216 159 1 1 $37.96
7/13/2008 232 175 1 0 $19.99
7/14/2008 210 169 0 2 $42.82
7/15/2008 202 162 0 0 $1.50
7/16/2008 224 184 0 1 $16.45
7/17/2008 229 173 0 1 $14.97
7/18/2008 237 170 1 1 $64.92
7/19/2008 197 151 0 1 $14.95
7/20/2008 214 156 0 1 $20.91
7/21/2008 251 183 0 1 $14.97
7/22/2008 249 189 0 2 $31.42
7/23/2008 202 152 0 2 $32.92
7/24/2008 207 164 0 1 $14.97
7/25/2008 239 189 0 2 $29.89
7/26/2008 194 163 0 0 $3.00
7/27/2008 177 149 1 0 $11.97
7/28/2008 167 137 0 1 $14.87
7/29/2008 196 160 0 0 $0.00
7/30/2008 163 123 0 0 $0.00
7/31/2008 185 154 1 1 $46.40
8/1/2008 167 129 1 0 $16.47
8/2/2008 183 145 0 1 $14.97
8/3/2008 148 118 0 2 $33.92
8/4/2008 194 150 0 0 ($14.95)
8/5/2008 167 139 0 0 $0.00
8/6/2008 135 107 0 2 $32.91
8/7/2008 182 148 0 0 $0.00
8/8/2008 175 143 0 0 $0.00
8/9/2008 218 178 0 0 $0.00
8/10/2008 180 145 0 0 $2.50
8/11/2008 180 156 1 0 $16.47
8/12/2008 189 160 0 1 $17.97
8/13/2008 182 149 0 2 $42.80
8/14/2008 191 161 0 0 $1.50
8/15/2008 194 160 1 0 $14.95
8/16/2008 188 152 0 1 $17.95
8/17/2008 191 148 0 1 $14.97
8/18/2008 193 169 0 1 $14.95
8/19/2008 191 156 0 2 $22.42
8/20/2008 204 179 0 1 $17.91
8/21/2008 180 149 0 1 $14.97
8/22/2008 194 156 0 2 $31.42
8/23/2008 218 167 0 2 $29.92
8/24/2008 202 156 0 0 $0.00
8/25/2008 191 163 1 2 $44.84
8/26/2008 176 147 0 0 ($13.45)
8/27/2008 193 171 0 1 $17.97
8/28/2008 171 140 0 1 $14.87
8/29/2008 215 183 0 0 $0.00
8/30/2008 195 167 0 0 $1.50
8/31/2008 177 143 0 1 $16.47
9/1/2008 190 144 0 0 $1.49
9/2/2008 185 152 0 1 $16.47
9/3/2008 217 171 1 2 $44.39
9/4/2008 177 145 1 0 $14.95
9/5/2008 218 176 0 0 ($14.95)
9/6/2008 197 160 1 1 $32.93
9/7/2008 182 147 0 1 $29.97
9/8/2008 190 151 0 0 $0.00
9/9/2008 188 166 0 0 $0.00
9/10/2008 169 144 1 1 $29.92
9/11/2008 175 140 1 0 $14.99
9/12/2008 188 143 0 2 $35.82
9/13/2008 183 142 1 1 $46.44
9/14/2008 146 110 0 1 $14.95
9/15/2008 168 139 0 0 $1.50
9/16/2008 159 134 0 0 $1.50
9/17/2008 174 149 0 0 $0.00
9/18/2008 139 117 1 1 $31.42
9/19/2008 151 123 0 2 $35.92
9/20/2008 152 118 1 1 $33.88
9/21/2008 152 125 0 1 $14.97
9/22/2008 167 140 1 2 $46.37
9/23/2008 178 137 0 1 $15.95
9/24/2008 162 115 0 0 $0.00
9/25/2008 142 114 0 2 $29.89
9/26/2008 175 143 0 0 $0.00
9/27/2008 142 112 0 0 $0.00
9/28/2008 148 121 0 1 $14.87
9/29/2008 153 119 0 0 $3.00
9/30/2008 155 131 0 1 $16.47
10/1/2008 140 109 0 0 $1.49
10/2/2008 129 103 0 1 $16.47
10/3/2008 146 122 0 1 $16.45
10/4/2008 145 116 0 0 $0.00
10/5/2008 132 106 0 0 $1.50
10/6/2008 138 109 0 0 $0.00
10/7/2008 161 123 0 0 $0.00
10/8/2008 121 95 0 1 $17.96
10/9/2008 130 104 0 0 $1.50
10/10/2008 169 123 0 2 $34.94
10/11/2008 129 105 0 0 $0.00
10/12/2008 124 104 0 2 $35.82
10/13/2008 144 118 0 1 $26.45

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Yes - I was so impressed, I bought the company

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Unsure - it's hard to say, I'll give you your money back

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10-14-2008, 01:48 AM

That's 15 sales per month up until 3 weeks ago, and since then ZERO sales.
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10-14-2008, 01:51 AM

Contact the sponsor... then move your traffic somewhere else and see how it does there... hit me up for suggestions on where to send it
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10-14-2008, 02:02 AM

Well at a quick glance, it appears that most of your sales appeared when +200 uniques were sent, and the zero sales days were when they were in the hundreds.

I guess the next question would be, where is the traffic coming from? Was it all text links, banner links on surfed pages? Possible a combination of SE pages and click links?

The reason I ask is because within the last 2-3 weeks Google did some major updating of their results, and it's possible that the links you were getting your clicks from them were buried somewhere or deleted altogether... just a thought.
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10-14-2008, 02:06 AM

google update killed many things for many

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10-14-2008, 02:11 AM

I got a similar issue.

Same search engine traffic for well over a year now, used to convert in less than 1/80 last year and most of this year. Now it's mysteriously just gone to a lot 0.00s this period.
Program, Campaign
09/07/2008 188 107 4 3 1:35 0 0.00 $105.00
09/08/2008 172 113 6 2 1:56 0 0.00 $70.00
09/09/2008 193 115 3 0 0:115 0 0.00 $35.00
09/10/2008 144 83 6 1 1:83 1 0.00 $35.00
09/11/2008 174 108 3 0 0:108 0 0.00 $0.00
09/12/2008 197 111 2 0 0:111 0 0.00 $35.00
09/13/2008 165 110 4 0 0:110 0 0.00 $70.00
09/14/2008 194 121 4 1 1:121 0 0.00 $49.93
09/15/2008 181 120 3 2 1:60 0 0.00 $70.00
09/16/2008 221 134 6 1 1:134 0 0.00 $35.00
09/17/2008 252 129 6 1 1:129 0 0.00 $35.00
09/18/2008 182 106 6 2 1:53 1 0.00 $54.14
09/19/2008 174 94 5 0 0:94 1 0.00 $0.00
09/20/2008 165 100 3 0 0:100 0 0.00 $35.00
09/21/2008 179 106 3 1 1:106 0 0.00 $35.00
09/22/2008 245 129 6 1 1:129 0 0.00 $35.00
09/23/2008 211 136 6 0 0:136 0 0.00 $35.00
09/24/2008 177 103 3 5 1:20 0 0.00 $175.00
09/25/2008 216 120 7 2 1:60 0 0.00 $70.00
09/26/2008 213 124 5 0 0:124 0 0.00 $70.00
09/27/2008 295 167 9 0 0:167 0 0.00 $70.00
09/28/2008 213 124 2 1 1:124 0 0.00 $35.00
09/29/2008 151 92 4 1 1:92 0 0.00 $35.00
09/30/2008 166 110 8 0 0:110 0 0.00 $0.00
10/01/2008 165 95 5 0 0:95 0 0.00 $0.00
10/02/2008 174 98 2 0 0:98 0 0.00 $0.00
10/03/2008 164 109 2 1 1:109 0 0.00 $0.00
10/04/2008 153 96 4 2 1:48 0 0.00 $70.00
10/05/2008 164 94 5 0 0:94 0 0.00 $0.00
10/06/2008 199 107 5 1 1:107 0 0.00 $0.00
10/07/2008 156 110 9 2 1:55 0 0.00 $70.00
10/08/2008 186 130 6 1 1:130 0 0.00 $0.00
10/09/2008 188 118 6 0 0:118 0 0.00 $0.00
10/10/2008 189 115 3 1 1:115 0 0.00 $0.00
10/11/2008 231 122 4 0 0:122 0 0.00 $0.00
10/12/2008 223 138 6 0 0:138 0 0.00 $0.00
10/13/2008 218 123 2 0 0:123 0 0.00 $0.00
10/14/2008 11 9 0 0 0:9 0 0.00 $0.00

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10-14-2008, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by VIPimp

Contact the sponsor... then move your traffic somewhere else and see how it does there... hit me up for suggestions on where to send it

Contacted them. The usual dipshit affiliate manager response.

Interesting Dennis Rodman. But no, all search engine traffic. One site is at #2 for its very specific phrase, which is the one which brought most of the new sales in. It's still there.
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10-14-2008, 02:24 AM

keep in mind there is not a single business that didnt see a drop a serious drop in sales in the past month, porn non porn whatever, anyone who tells you different is simply lieing, I am involved in all types of adult and mainstream projects and talk to people in this business who would never mention something like this on a forum but just saying this so you know!

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10-14-2008, 03:04 AM

I have a few interests outside this business as well Escortbiz, and including those and another dozen or so adult programs I (actively) promote, this is the only one sticking their hand up.
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10-14-2008, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by CunningStunt

I have a few interests outside this business as well Escortbiz, and including those and another dozen or so adult programs I (actively) promote, this is the only one sticking their hand up.

then you have your answer

id check out their site as well if any major changes where made but other than that if:

traffic is same source same terms
site is same
processor is same
host is same (slow sites = bad sales)

99.9% you are being robbed

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10-14-2008, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by CunningStunt

I have a few interests outside this business as well Escortbiz, and including those and another dozen or so adult programs I (actively) promote, this is the only one sticking their hand up.

Same with me! Send me a PM with which program you're using.

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10-14-2008, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by EscortBiz

then you have your answer

id check out their site as well if any major changes where made but other than that if:

traffic is same source same terms
site is same
processor is same
host is same (slow sites = bad sales)

99.9% you are being robbed

My thoughts exactly.
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10-14-2008, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by CunningStunt

My thoughts exactly.

Does this happen a lot? Can sales from Nats type programs be shaved? I know something is up with the program I'm using as well. I've had the same search engine traffic, same host, same content for over a year and sales all of a sudden stopped. All my other sites are doing average despite the economic situation. It's a pretty shitty situation to be in!

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10-14-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by intehend

Does this happen a lot? Can sales from Nats type programs be shaved? I know something is up with the program I'm using as well. I've had the same search engine traffic, same host, same content for over a year and sales all of a sudden stopped. All my other sites are doing average despite the economic situation. It's a pretty shitty situation to be in!

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10-14-2008, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Dennis Rodman

Well at a quick glance, it appears that most of your sales appeared when +200 uniques were sent, and the zero sales days were when they were in the hundreds.

I guess the next question would be, where is the traffic coming from? Was it all text links, banner links on surfed pages? Possible a combination of SE pages and click links?

The reason I ask is because within the last 2-3 weeks Google did some major updating of their results, and it's possible that the links you were getting your clicks from them were buried somewhere or deleted altogether... just a thought.

how the fuck can that sig only be 345kb.. :D

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10-14-2008, 08:50 PM

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how the fuck can that sig only be 345kb.. :D

and your sig says alot in 170kb too

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10-14-2008, 10:31 PM

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how the fuck can that sig only be 345kb.. :D

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10-14-2008, 11:52 PM

There's really not that many frames in the animation if you look closely. Animation optimises a hell of a lot smaller than movie clips.
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10-15-2008, 01:35 AM

Is the sponsor called Brazbucks or Juggcash?
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10-15-2008, 01:52 AM

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10-15-2008, 08:16 PM

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10-15-2008, 08:26 PM

Who is it?

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10-15-2008, 08:27 PM

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Upon accusation, TMM will preform an audit. If they discover any abnormalities, TMM will revoke their license immediately.

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