I was watching the news last night, the US is pushing the UN for action agaisnt Iraq. From what I understand the US doesnt have the approval of the UN just yet and even if they dont get it they will act reguardless. Anyone know exactly whats going on?
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You have it covered.Originally posted by kenny
I was watching the news last night, the US is pushing the UN for action agaisnt Iraq. From what I understand the US doesnt have the approval of the UN just yet and even if they dont get it they will act reguardless. Anyone know exactly whats going on?When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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I heard a little more was going on, like Britian was already drafting? And they already have the back of the US. If the UN disapproves of a war with Iraq what will they do if we attack anyways?7Comment
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We run the UN for the most part anywaysOriginally posted by Sly_RJ
We really don't give a shit what the UN says anyway, do we?
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Tony the PM has our back covered. We have been foward postioning troops for the past several weeks. Those in the Reserves have been extended for another year. Our aircraft have been bombing Iraq air defenses with more regularity. The removal of Sadam is already in motion. The UN may pass a resolution of condemnation but that is all they have the power to do.Originally posted by kenny
I heard a little more was going on, like Britian was already drafting? And they already have the back of the US. If the UN disapproves of a war with Iraq what will they do if we attack anyways?When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Probably nothing. Yell like little girls. From what I remember, the UN has little to no enforcement of its policies. They can get Peace Keepers, nothing else. And since there's no enforcement, we end up with problems like we have right now.Originally posted by kenny
I heard a little more was going on, like Britian was already drafting? And they already have the back of the US. If the UN disapproves of a war with Iraq what will they do if we attack anyways?
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Originally posted by kenny
I heard a little more was going on, like Britian was already drafting? And they already have the back of the US. If the UN disapproves of a war with Iraq what will they do if we attack anyways?
Well, where the planes are gonna take of from?Comment
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We have bases all over the world for days like this. Woohoo!Originally posted by nemesis
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But, other than England nobody is supporting the attack at the moment. It is impossible to attack iraq just with the support of England. Having a base in somewhere does not mean shit if the country does not approve the attack.Originally posted by Sly_RJ
We have bases all over the world for days like this. Woohoo!Comment
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Ah, fuck 'em. We'll launch missiles up their ass on the way over their air space.Originally posted by nemesis
But, other than England nobody is supporting the attack at the moment. It is impossible to attack iraq just with the support of England. Having a base in somewhere does not mean shit if the country does not approve the attack.PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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I heard Russia plays a important role in this, if the UN disapproves, and Russia disapproves of war and we go ahead and act reguardless, I am wondering if we are going to start a war with Iraq and end up in a war agaisnt more. All those countries we already targeted because of the terroist organizations they contain. I am thinking that they are going to gang up on us. Its possible isnt it? Nobody expects it but it happens7Comment
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If all else fails, Canada will come save us.Originally posted by kenny
I heard Russia plays a important role in this, if the UN disapproves, and Russia disapproves of war and we go ahead and act reguardless, I am wondering if we are going to start a war with Iraq and end up in a war agaisnt more. All those countries we already targeted because of the terroist organizations they contain. I am thinking that they are going to gang up on us. Its possible isnt it? Nobody expects it but it happensPHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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We have enough aircraft carriers to carry out the attacks without land bases, if it has to be that way. Our long range bombers can fly out of the US just as they did in Afghanistan. But we have several air bases much closer that belong to the US and England that can be used, and it appears that the Turks are going to allow us to use our airbases in their country. It would be helpful, but not neccessary, for other countries to provide assistance.Originally posted by nemesis
But, other than England nobody is supporting the attack at the moment. It is impossible to attack iraq just with the support of England. Having a base in somewhere does not mean shit if the country does not approve the attack.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Ah, fuck 'em. We'll launch missiles up their ass on the way over their air space.
Was that a quote from bush?Comment
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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
If all else fails, Canada will come save us.
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Originally posted by theking
Turks are going to allow us to use our airbases in their country.
Even though Turks hate Iraq more than any other nation in the world, it seems like there won't be any support.Comment
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The consequences of war are never 100% predictable, but we will deal with whatever consequences that may arise. Russia does not have the military capability to wage serious war, other than their nukes they are a third world nation now.Originally posted by kenny
I heard Russia plays a important role in this, if the UN disapproves, and Russia disapproves of war and we go ahead and act reguardless, I am wondering if we are going to start a war with Iraq and end up in a war agaisnt more. All those countries we already targeted because of the terroist organizations they contain. I am thinking that they are going to gang up on us. Its possible isnt it? Nobody expects it but it happensWhen you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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The real question is what will happen to the US if it attacks without UN approval? World opinion on US foreign policy is already very low, and acting against the UN isn't gonna help any.
Also, most of the current terrorist problems are a result of US foreign policy towards the middle east, so attacking Iraq will probably have the same effect as poking a hornets nest with a stick. The US might succeed at removing Sadam Hussein, but it also may result in more Sept. 11th type of terrorists attacks. And if that happened, the UN would be sitting there just waiting to say "we told you not to go into Iraq, now look what happened."Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.Comment
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Originally posted by nemesis
Was that a quote from bush?
LMAO.... haha
Actually they launch from Qatar, Kuiat, and 4 or 5 carriers in the Gulf.
Saddam has ignored 16 Un Resoulutions since the 91 cease fire that kept him in power.
He attacked Iran in the 80', Kuiat in the 90', and has gased his own people many times. He is a clear and present danger to the world.
The Iraqi People would also be MUCH better off. If you don't think this is so, you just aren't paying any attention to the situation at hand!Comment
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With or without UN approval those that hate the US will still hate the US.Originally posted by Brown Bear
The real question is what will happen to the US if it attacks without UN approval? World opinion on US foreign policy is already very low, and acting against the UN isn't gonna help any.
Also, most of the current terrorist problems are a result of US foreign policy towards the middle east, so attacking Iraq will probably have the same effect as poking a hornets nest with a stick. The US might succeed at removing Sadam Hussein, but it also may result in more Sept. 11th type of terrorists attacks. And if that happened, the UN would be sitting there just waiting to say "we told you not to go into Iraq, now look what happened."When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Its alright for people to hate the US, but people should realize that attacking Iraq might result in another Sept. 11th type of attack. They shouldn't think that attacking Iraq would have zero consequences for the future.Originally posted by theking
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Originally posted by theking
With or without UN approval those that hate the US will still hate the US.
They will always hate us, but war is what brings it out, everybody will back everybody. That how the world wars happened isnt it?7Comment
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To put it a different way then those that would attack us will attack us with or without UN approval. The US will deal with whatever takes place if and when it takes place. Are we going to experience more attacks upon the mainland or assest around the world, more than likely we will. Will these attacks curtail the US from persuring what it considers to be in its best interests, no.Originally posted by Brown Bear
Its alright for people to hate the US, but people should realize that attacking Iraq might result in another Sept. 11th type of attack. They shouldn't think that attacking Iraq would have zero consequences for the future.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Originally posted by ChrisH
LMAO.... haha
Actually they launch from Qatar, Kuiat, and 4 or 5 carriers in the Gulf.
Saddam has ignored 16 Un Resoulutions since the 91 cease fire that kept him in power.
Is iraq the only country in the world that is ignoring UN resoulutions?Comment
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There will not be any Third World War fought over Iraq, period. We may not have as many countries on our side as we would like to have, but no country on the Earth will assist Iraq, other than by verbally condemning the US.Originally posted by kenny
They will always hate us, but war is what brings it out, everybody will back everybody. That how the world wars happened isnt it?When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Originally posted by ChrisH
LMAO.... haha
Actually they launch from Qatar, Kuiat, and 4 or 5 carriers in the Gulf.
Saddam has ignored 16 Un Resoulutions since the 91 cease fire that kept him in power.
He attacked Iran in the 80', Kuiat in the 90', and has gased his own people many times. He is a clear and present danger to the world.
The Iraqi People would also be MUCH better off. If you don't think this is so, you just aren't paying any attention to the situation at hand!
Yea there is no doubt the world would be better off without Sadam in power in Iraq. The US is using those violations to push a war through the UN. But <b>if</b> the UN doesnt approve and we strike reguardless that gives a reason for other countries to jump in.
We all know the true reason we want war with Iraq is that they are after a nucleur trigger. And sadam would pull it.
Iraq is in tight trade with Russia I believe, wouldnt surprise me if they didnt already have nukes7Comment
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Originally posted by nemesis
Is iraq the only country in the world that is ignoring UN resoulutions?
By far yes.
The only probably not.
Most dangerous: YESComment
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No, and his violating the UN resolutions, or not, is not his problem. His problem is, he has made himself an enemy of the US so he in effect has chosen to committ suicide. End of story.Originally posted by nemesis
Is iraq the only country in the world that is ignoring UN resoulutions?When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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I am little drunk but it seems clear to me that its a good thing that alot of us are in this business and not in the National Defense business ;o)Stephan
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Today, or Yesterday eitherway,
Russia, and China has publicly stated that Iraq either adhears to the UN Mandate, or suffer the aftermath.
He has to go, why anyone would doubt that is very strange.
As far as terrorism and terrorist. Simple find them and kill them. They need to be hunted worldwide, yesterday we caught another one in Pakastan. One by one, find them and kill them.
If we do nothing, they will try to hit us.
If we go after them, they will try to hit us.
Which would you prefer?Comment
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Yeah -- then I couldn't work in the nude.Originally posted by Supercharged
I am little drunk but it seems clear to me that its a good thing that alot of us are in this business and not in the National Defense business ;o)Comment
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Exactly why we are pushing war with Iraq, They are after nukes and would most likely use them if they had them.Originally posted by ChrisH
By far yes.
The only probably not.
Most dangerous: YES
I cant help to wonder what exactly would Sadam use them on?
Sadams goverment is whacked.
We will all know in a couple, few weeks whats going down7Comment
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Originally posted by kenny
Exactly why we are pushing war with Iraq, They are after nukes and would most likely use them if they had them.
I cant help to wonder what exactly would Sadam use them on?
Sadams goverment is whacked.
We will all know in a couple, few weeks whats going down
First off I don't look for or want war.
However, if Saddam gets weapons of mass destruction he could give them to a terrorist regime and use them in the US. That is unacceptible to me.
It may be a stretch, it may not be. But that coupled together with the betterment of the Iraqi People and the World. It really is a no brainer!! He's got to go! Won't be hard either!Comment
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A beautiful statement. Thanks for the smile Chris.Originally posted by ChrisH
If we do nothing, they will try to hit us.
If we go after them, they will try to hit us.
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The worrisome thing about Russia is that if the US attacks Iraq on its own, Russia will probably take advantage and attack Chechen rebel bases in Georgia again. That would cause major escalation in the region.- this space intentionally left blank -Comment
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Getting kicked off the UN's Human Rights Council doesn't fall into the category of running the UN.Originally posted by kenny
We run the UN for the most part anyways
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Worst thing I can think of if US attacks without UN approval is UN won't help if US starts getting their ass kicked (see: Battle of Mogadishu).
How about we take Washington, DC by force?
Oh wait, shouldn't have said that, too late to take it back, federales have already probably classified me as part of the AXIS OF EEEEVIL.
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We will go on with or without the UN.
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I thin Iraq is a good start, but it shouldn't stop thereComment
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England DOESN'T support you.Originally posted by nemesis
But, other than England nobody is supporting the attack at the moment. It is impossible to attack iraq just with the support of England. Having a base in somewhere does not mean shit if the country does not approve the attack.
Tony Blair does, but he's just a twat.
70%+ of the UK population are against an invasion of Iraq. Even more if we don't have UN support.Comment
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Interesting jammy boy, relaxing today right? No work? Oh it's saturday OK.Originally posted by jammyjenkins
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The United States does not need the "permission" of the United Nations before attacking another country. The United Nations entire purpose is have a forum where countries can settle their differences before dropping bombs on each other. No one seems to talk about this, but the Iraq is in violation of a number of UN resolutions and the UN seems to care less about it.
Iraw was defeated during the Gulf War by the United States, and there was a number of defined conditions put into place during the surrender of Iraq.
One of these conditions is that Iraw allow UN weapons inspectors into Iraw to confirm that all weapons of mass destruction have been eliminated, and that these inpectors remain in place until the UN (read: US) is happy that these conditions have bee meet.
Another one of these conditions was the no fly zones in Iraq. These have been put into place to protect the Kurds from the Iraqi military, who tends to gas the Kurds when they have nothing better to do. Also, these no fly zones also protect Kuwait from further attack. These no fly zones are not open to discussion; They are part of the surrender terms. Yet Iraq is free to launch missles at the planes on patrol in these no fly zones.
This is Germany and WWI and WW2 all over again. Germany was defeated and terms of surrender included that Germany could not re-arm itself; Hilter did what ever he wanted which resulted in WW2.
There may not be much support for a US attack, but no one is going to stand up to the US.Herschel Savage
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