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  • NatalieK
    Natalie K
    • Apr 2010
    • 20106
    #1

    Rant Pornhub wants to own the rights to my content and take my rights away

    so PornHub, why would I want you to own my content & give me no permissions to reproduce my content?



    anyone else having this problem?

    Is this legal? Why would I give my content away & have no rights for my own content?
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    • King Mark
      So Fucking Banned
      • Aug 2016
      • 27033
      #2
      Lol.....

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        • Spunky
          I need a beer
          • Jun 2002
          • 133986
          #3
          Don't let the man hold you down!

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            • pornlaw
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2007
              • 1902
              #4
              Not sure if that would work as an assignment of copyright under the various electronic signature laws around the world... but I wouldnt want to be arguing that is doesnt...

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                • j3rkules
                  VIP
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 22111
                  #5
                  Is it for real? Innovative way to "protect your content".

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                    • Colmike9
                      (>^_^)b
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 7230
                      #6
                      But.. Those are amateur videos, like cell phone videos, that wouldn't legally be allowed normally because of 2257 and other things that individuals aren't going to be doing.

                      I don't agree with it, though...



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                        • plaster
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 2295
                          #7
                          That's nice of them... they give you an account in exchange for all of you past, current and future content... sweet!!

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                            • sicone
                              Retired
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 18453
                              #8
                              Choose a different type of producer account instead of Amateur Payment Program. Maybe try content partner.

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                                • yuu.design
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2006
                                  • 25924
                                  #9
                                  damn, that sucks!
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                                    • NatalieK
                                      Natalie K
                                      • Apr 2010
                                      • 20106
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by sicone
                                      Choose a different type of producer account instead of Amateur Payment Program. Maybe try content partner.
                                      yeah, been meaning to change it to the partnership program. I take it this doesn't ask for this copyright?
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                                        • Bank18
                                          Registered User
                                          • Dec 2015
                                          • 99
                                          #11
                                          but it's illegal..

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                                            • CaptainHowdy
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 94727
                                              #12
                                              Motherfuckers.

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                                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                                  It's 42
                                                  • Jun 2010
                                                  • 18083
                                                  #13
                                                  It looks like a limited assignment of copyright. (Partial assignment?)
                                                  It applies to free sites only, sites of Pornhub's kind -- other tubes ...

                                                  ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' estoppel by agreement of some consideration. The action of uploading in agreement with the new terms would create an estoppel of barring the use the uploaded content ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

                                                  You are not transferring any ownership of the content only agreeing to Pornhub's exclusive use ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

                                                  What exactly ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' means is rather vague -- it may not be very binding. For example, if you had your own forum as part of your business -- you may not not be able to use that content only verbatim in its entirety -- big loophole that you might be able drive a truck through.

                                                  That is the way I see the intention -- without going into Pornhub's rational in the matter.

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                                                    • brassmonkey
                                                      Pay It Forward
                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                      • 77396
                                                      #14
                                                      it's a good deal if they give you ad space of the videos and the dcma deal
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                                                        • NatalieK
                                                          Natalie K
                                                          • Apr 2010
                                                          • 20106
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                          It looks like a limited assignment of copyright. (Partial assignment?)
                                                          It applies to free sites only, sites of Pornhub's kind -- other tubes ...

                                                          ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' estoppel by agreement of some consideration. The action of uploading in agreement with the new terms would create an estoppel of barring the use the uploaded content ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

                                                          You are not transferring any ownership of the content only agreeing to Pornhub's exclusive use ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

                                                          What exactly ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' means is rather vague -- it may not be very binding. For example, if you had your own forum as part of your business -- you may not not be able to use that content only verbatim in its entirety -- big loophole that you might be able drive a truck through.

                                                          That is the way I see the intention -- without going into Pornhub's rational in the matter.
                                                          but as many users, I post my clips and partial movies if not full on this tube and others like xhamster, and already done. I'm certainly not going to remove any from other tubes.

                                                          Not understanding what they're saying
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                                                            • AMDWarrior
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                              • 1488
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                              so PornHub, why would I want you to own my content & give me no permissions to reproduce my content?

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                                                              anyone else having this problem?

                                                              Is this legal? Why would I give my content away & have no rights for my own content?

                                                              No one wants your shitty content..

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                                                                • AdultKing
                                                                  Raise Your Weapon
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 15601
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Nobody is forcing people to participate in this program.

                                                                  I don't see a problem with this. They're offering a free DMCA service and protecting your content.

                                                                  You do realise that if you make two versions of one video and one is on Pornhub and the other is on XHamster then there won't be an issue ?

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                                                                    • beerptrol
                                                                      Confirmed Asshole
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 12722
                                                                      #18
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                                                                        • charlie g
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                          • 2759
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by beerptrol
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                                                                            • SBJ
                                                                              So Fucking Fabulous
                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                              • 11387
                                                                              #20
                                                                              adapt or die? does it fit here?

                                                                              Sure I think those thieves should have the legal right to own the content posted on their mostly illegal site

                                                                              Oh god I almost believed it myself.. I need more than 2 hours of fucking sleep

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                                                                                • Speigelau
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2007
                                                                                  • 3032
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I think they will be able to achieve more with the content than you will, so just let them have it.

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                                                                                    • Mr.Fiction
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                      • 9484
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.
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                                                                                        • Paul&John
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                          • 8643
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                          Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.
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                                                                                            • Klen
                                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                                              • 32235
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                              Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.
                                                                                              That is actually happening already, even in mainstream.

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                                                                                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                  It's 42
                                                                                                  • Jun 2010
                                                                                                  • 18083
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                                                  but as many users, I post my clips and partial movies if not full on this tube and others like xhamster, and already done. I'm certainly not going to remove any from other tubes.

                                                                                                  Not understanding what they're saying


                                                                                                  Pornhub's only realistic recourse is to cancel your account, not pay you and they might have established a right to the content and its use if this agreement (stipulation) is breached.


                                                                                                  It's a real POS piece work but there may be a real ulterior motive here.

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                                                                                                    • HowlingWulf
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                                      • 1662
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                      Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.
                                                                                                      This will certainly be the problem. Don't see how they can 'win' anything when claiming they own something uploaded by someone who didn't own it in the first place.
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                                                                                                        • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                          Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                          • 50969
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                                                                          it's a good deal if they give you ad space of the videos and the dcma deal
                                                                                                          LOL! Are you serious? That's a terrible deal.

                                                                                                          I can understand if maybe, Gary & Nathalie were going to provide them content in exchange for traffic to their site TEMPORARILY, but this wording is PERMANENT. What if no traffic is provided or if the deal just doesn't work out? Gary & Nathalie should then be able to end this deal, re-gain their rights to their content, and look for someone new to work with, no?

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                                                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                              • 52942
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              A serial thief is going to send DCMAs to sites where the owner of the content has uploaded it. Could it be more wrong?

                                                                                                              Also, how do they know the person submitting the content is the owner?



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                                                                                                                • NatalieK
                                                                                                                  Natalie K
                                                                                                                  • Apr 2010
                                                                                                                  • 20106
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                  Nobody is forcing people to participate in this program.

                                                                                                                  I don't see a problem with this. They're offering a free DMCA service and protecting your content.

                                                                                                                  You do realise that if you make two versions of one video and one is on Pornhub and the other is on XHamster then there won't be an issue ?
                                                                                                                  after speaking with Brett from PornHub, seems the above is the case. PH are simply offering DMCA especially to models uploading specifically to PH, scanning the top 50 sites and issuing the DMCA if need
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                                                                                                                    • ruff
                                                                                                                      I have a plan B
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                      • 5507
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Fuck em and feed em beans.
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                                                                                                                        • Pornhub
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2009
                                                                                                                          • 56
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Hi Everyone

                                                                                                                          To clarify about the program this is an optional service we are providing as part of our amateur payment program. this is geared to a portion of our users in the program who upload exclusively on Pornhub already and have requested help protecting their content from appearing on other free sites where they aren't getting paid. If you are someone that is already uploading your content to other free platforms this program is obviously not right for you. It is completely optional if you want to take advantage of this new service if you decline nothing changes.

                                                                                                                          Happy to answer any questions about the program and our new content protection service
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                                                                                                                            • romeo22
                                                                                                                              你自己去他媽的
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2008
                                                                                                                              • 23350
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              oh that sucks big balls

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                                                                                                                                • plaster
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2015
                                                                                                                                  • 2295
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Pornhub
                                                                                                                                  Hi Everyone

                                                                                                                                  To clarify about the program this is an optional service we are providing as part of our amateur payment program. this is geared to a portion of our users in the program who upload exclusively on Pornhub already and have requested help protecting their content from appearing on other free sites where they aren't getting paid. If you are someone that is already uploading your content to other free platforms this program is obviously not right for you. It is completely optional if you want to take advantage of this new service if you decline nothing changes.

                                                                                                                                  Happy to answer any questions about the program and our new content protection service
                                                                                                                                  I'm fairly certain dmca agents do not require ownership of content to act on owners behalf. The warning light box popup is misleading to put it mildly.

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                                                                                                                                    • Jigster715
                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2015
                                                                                                                                      • 1459
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                                      Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.
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                                                                                                                                        • Naughty-Pages
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 4533
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                                          Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.
                                                                                                                                          I know right??

                                                                                                                                          I already have enough issues with DMCA complaints to Google about legally obtained affiliate promo content.

                                                                                                                                          And how is that going to work for THEIR affiliate content? They offer dumps for people to use on their tubes, is that going to be a similar headache?

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                                                                                                                                            • Mediamix
                                                                                                                                              Dutch Webmaster!
                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2013
                                                                                                                                              • 3228
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                                              Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.
                                                                                                                                              I already have that problem on Youtube. It's solved for now, but that was a real pain in my ass.
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