Cavecreek/CCBill deal to buy Alphared falls through

**webair** · 10-09-2008, 01:47 PM

Rough times for alpha red clients ahead.

If any of the survivors need anything we can have you over in no time. Contact us if you have any questions or comments.

Best of luck!

**CyberHustler** · 10-09-2008, 01:50 PM

Awww man that's fucked up. You people better get your asses over to phatservers or hosthead before it's too late.

**Juicy D. Links** · 10-09-2008, 01:50 PM

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

**milan** · 10-09-2008, 01:51 PM

this deal was doomed from the get go!

**XSV** · 10-09-2008, 01:51 PM

Hate to say it, but doesn't surprise me.
Hopefully people there have themselves covered after the warnings last week.

**Brad Mitchell** · 10-09-2008, 01:54 PM

Who's the bitch now, eh?

Brad

**webair** · 10-09-2008, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by milan

this deal was doomed from the get go!

agreed

**webmasterchecks** · 10-09-2008, 02:01 PM

For some reason, this doesn?t surprise me, Cavecreek/ccbill and alphared mix like oil and water.

Anybody that deals with alphared is dealing with a company where 10 DMCA notices stand between them losing 75% of their revenue.

CCBill has too much to lose to acquire a business like that, they are too honest ;) and leaving up hosting clients after getting repeated DMCAs will f*ck them on the billing side.

**milan** · 10-09-2008, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Brad Mitchell

Who's the bitch now, eh?

Brad

You are... LOL

We just knew this will happen...

**count of monte cristo** · 10-09-2008, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by milan

this deal was doomed from the get go!

why do you say that? there was a lot of vague comments but nothing specific? everyone was mum on what they knew

**dubsix** · 10-09-2008, 02:07 PM

I'm sure they took one look at AlphaRed's books and high-tailed it out of there. We all knew this wasn't going to play out.

**jcsike** · 10-09-2008, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Brad Mitchell

Who's the bitch now, eh?

Brad

well have to wait and see how many "if you are SOL and with alphared, please come in here! we can host you" threads first

haha

**jcsike** · 10-09-2008, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by WireSix-Ryan

I'm sure they took one look at AlphaRed's books and high-tailed it out of there. We all knew this wasn't going to play out.

they were probably one of the few companies that could make it happen, if the fundamentals were there, but alas

**dubsix** · 10-09-2008, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by jcsike

they were probably one of the few companies that could make it happen, if the fundamentals were there, but alas

The fundamentals were never there, they operated on a fundementally flawed business plan. The days of hypergrowth and thin margains should have died with the .COM collapse in the late 90s/early 2k. How this stupid idea is still around amazes me.

**milan** · 10-09-2008, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by count of monte cristo

why do you say that? there was a lot of vague comments but nothing specific? everyone was mum on what they knew

Because I KNOW and warned, i was thinking about buying AR 12 month ago and when I saw the book ...yikes...

I knew no smart biz man will get into this deal with clean mind.

**GTS Mark** · 10-09-2008, 02:17 PM

Wow alot of bandwidth is going to be moving around this week to say the least.

DH

**seeric** · 10-09-2008, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by webair

we can have you over in no time.

not if their servers go offline. that appears to be whats happening now. looks like the datacenter is coming offline carrier by carrier to me.

people who waited this long might be fucked in the ass.

**Phil** · 10-09-2008, 02:20 PM

isn't it why feds are after those guys? for hosting spam, virus aka anti-virus crap?

**xxweekxx** · 10-09-2008, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by milan

Because I KNOW and warned, i was thinking about buying AR 12 month ago and when I saw the book ...yikes...

I knew no smart biz man will get into this deal with clean mind.

whats wrong with their books.. no profit?

**Techie Media** · 10-09-2008, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by webair

Rough times for alpha red clients ahead.

If any of the survivors need anything we can have you over in no time. Contact us if you have any questions or comments.

Best of luck!

Mike we have a few transfers going righjt now from AR and all I can say is it taking forever, their shit is almost at a stand still and getting worse as more and more peeps are trying to run. They all should have listend last week

**Techie Media** · 10-09-2008, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by A1R3K

not if their servers go offline. that appears to be whats happening now. looks like the datacenter is coming offline carrier by carrier to me.

people who waited this long might be fucked in the ass.

Bingo, you are 100% correct bro.

**Rodent** · 10-09-2008, 02:25 PM

Outbound pipes are hammered with everyone leaving

**jcsike** · 10-09-2008, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by WireSix-Ryan

The fundamentals were never there, they operated on a fundementally flawed business plan. The days of hypergrowth and thin margains should have died with the .COM collapse in the late 90s/early 2k. How this stupid idea is still around amazes me.

well, if it was a revenue issue, why did it take so long? they were in biz for a long time. upstreams stop giving you bandwidth if you dont pay? tried to get insight, doesnt make sense to me, not tryimng top be pushy

so was it the MS lawsuit or the biz model, the catalyst here seemed to to be the MS lawsuit

**count of monte cristo** · 10-09-2008, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Wow alot of bandwidth is going to be moving around this week to say the least.

DH

no shit, big effect on you guys, seeing as how you deal with a lot of tube traffic

**milan** · 10-09-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by xxweekxx

whats wrong with their books.. no profit?

NDA my friend still in effect....

**KillerK** · 10-09-2008, 03:03 PM

we know what hosts not to use by the way they post in this thread.

**count of monte cristo** · 10-09-2008, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by KillerK

we know what hosts not to use by the way they post in this thread.

or acted last week. i think the only host without a thread soliciting alphared customers was natnet

**webmasterchecks** · 10-09-2008, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by milan

NDA my friend still in effect....

so maybe in a few weeks or so?

**lazzlo** · 10-09-2008, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by A1R3K

not if their servers go offline. that appears to be whats happening now. looks like the datacenter is coming offline carrier by carrier to me.

people who waited this long might be fucked in the ass.

wheres it happening airek? i got my shit off and fast the day mayhem let loose thanks to pacific rack (great job and support btw) i do have a couple domians still there and they are loading

**lazzlo** · 10-09-2008, 04:13 PM

also, if it does shut down, one reason might be the techs running it arent getting paid and have'nt been, and they might just say fuck it.

**AdultEUhost** · 10-09-2008, 04:14 PM

I would suggest all Alphared customers to keep a close eye on the situation and think about if they would want (and can afford) to take the risk of waiting what happens with the (still possible) option of seeing your server going offline.

I think the fact that Alphared doesn't bring any update about the situation and the future of its hosting customers is a bad thing and unnecessary as it will make the situation only worse.

As far as I can see servers are still online as we just initiated another two transfers but I don't think this will last long, I wouldn't be surprised if everything went down for the weekend.

**directfiesta** · 10-09-2008, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by count of monte cristo

or acted last week. i think the only host without a thread soliciting alphared customers was natnet

.. and those who did not want this low-paying business

**seeric** · 10-09-2008, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by lazzlo

wheres it happening airek? i got my shit off and fast the day mayhem let loose thanks to pacific rack (great job and support btw) i do have a couple domians still there and they are loading

i'd get em out man.

or at least have them somewhere else so you can flip the DNS when you need to.

**Iron Fist** · 10-09-2008, 04:54 PM

Let me take a look at the books....

ASSETS
======
Gizallion Servers $50,000
Hosting Revenue $100,000
Scareware Revenue $4,000,000

LIABILITIES
=========
300 Gbps bandwidth $5,000,000

Hmm.... i'm not an accountant... but I think we have a problem.

**lazzlo** · 10-09-2008, 05:01 PM

get out guys, its closing.

**lazzlo** · 10-09-2008, 05:11 PM

thats from two reliable sources from the inside, and servers aralready going down. end of rumours. last warning.

**count of monte cristo** · 10-09-2008, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by directfiesta

.. and those who did not want this low-paying business

um im saw pretty much every host in there, mate

**Ycaza** · 10-09-2008, 06:54 PM

yeah trying to copy files out of there is like a 2 week deal, slow bandwidth

**Extreme John** · 10-09-2008, 07:02 PM

Lazz hit me up

**Sin_Vraal** · 10-09-2008, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Techie Media

Mike we have a few transfers going righjt now from AR and all I can say is it taking forever, their shit is almost at a stand still and getting worse as more and more peeps are trying to run. They all should have listend last week

Well aint that the truth!

**Sin_Vraal** · 10-09-2008, 08:52 PM

For those that want to continue getting their same rates somewhere else, feel free to contact me.

We have a premium network AND a budget network. Take all of one or some of both!

sig for details

**SomeCreep** · 10-09-2008, 09:14 PM

wtf, i thought this was a joke thread. RonC had already announced the acquisition.

Weird shit, vague details.

**V_RocKs** · 10-09-2008, 11:23 PM

I fucked Alpha Red in the arse!

**Kick Ass Chat** · 10-10-2008, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by SomeCreep

wtf, i thought this was a joke thread. RonC had already announced the acquisition.

Weird shit, vague details.

Naaaa, it was never official, he just said they were looking into it, but obviously after examing a company that opperated on a no profit margin he wised up real quick.

**Enemator** · 10-10-2008, 02:09 AM

This thread is full of vultures

**Wiredoctor** · 10-10-2008, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by Enemator

This thread is full of vultures

Actually it's full of some very good hosts offering their services to a bunch of cheapie webmasters that went el cheapo and are now fucked.

**Scotty.T** · 10-10-2008, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by GirlsFreePics

Naaaa, it was never official, he just said they were looking into it, ...

They kind of made it official here, http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=859923

**Kick Ass Chat** · 10-10-2008, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by Scotty.T

They kind of made it official here, http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=859923

I stand corrected, you are totally correct. I guess they did that as some cheap puplicity stunt.? Who knows why I guess they jumped the gun there a bit, then realized that the cheap host with tiny to no profit margin is a proven to fail biz model and scrapped the idea.

**JFK** · 10-10-2008, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by Scotty.T

They kind of made it official here, http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=859923

yup, sure sounded like it, perhaps it was a bigger can of worms than they thought

Cavecreek/CCBill deal to buy Alphared falls through

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