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  • Snake Doctor
    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
    • Mar 2001
    • 13449

    #1

    General Petraeus = NOT fit to lead

    He wants to negotiate with the Taliban. McCain is gonna be pissed.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081008/...n_usa_petraeus
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  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431

    #2
    the only word McCain and Palin use as much as 'maverick' is 'Petraeus' - every time McCain says it i think of Jan Brady and 'Marcia Marcia Marcia' - 'Petraeus Petraeus Petraeus!"
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    • Drake
      Hello world!
      • Mar 2003
      • 12508

      #3
      Petraeus is showing "weakness" and "naivety". Outrageous!

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      • WiredGuy
        Pounding Googlebot
        • Aug 2002
        • 34517

        #4
        Am I the only one who thinks Petraeus' name sounds like Betray-Us? I laugh every time I hear it in speeches, would you want to be led by general Betray-Us?
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        • Gouge
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2005
          • 1438

          #5
          Originally posted by Snake Doctor
          He wants to negotiate with the Taliban. McCain is gonna be pissed.

          http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081008/...n_usa_petraeus
          How strange, i didnt see anywhere in the article where Petraeus said negotiate. However Mark Carleton-Smith did.

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          • Gouge
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2005
            • 1438

            #6
            Originally posted by WiredGuy
            Am I the only one who thinks Petraeus' name sounds like Betray-Us? I laugh every time I hear it in speeches, would you want to be led by general Betray-Us?
            WG
            What an original thought you just had, you sure you didnt get that from the Code Pink add?

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            • WiredGuy
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              • Aug 2002
              • 34517

              #7
              Originally posted by Gouge
              What an original thought you just had, you sure you didnt get that from the Code Pink add?
              What's Code Pink?
              WG
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              • Snake Doctor
                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                • Mar 2001
                • 13449

                #8
                Originally posted by Mutt
                the only word McCain and Palin use as much as 'maverick' is 'Petraeus' - every time McCain says it i think of Jan Brady and 'Marcia Marcia Marcia' - 'Petraeus Petraeus Petraeus!"
                I found it funny when Bush was constantly using Petraeus' name over and over....he and McCain both talking about how we should listen to him.

                I thought we lived in a country where Presidents give orders to generals, not the other way around.

                Originally posted by Gouge
                How strange, i didnt see anywhere in the article where Petraeus said negotiate. However Mark Carleton-Smith did.
                That was the headline when I posted the link. It wouldn't be the first time yahoo changed one.

                The end result is the same....he wants to sit down and talk with Taliban leaders.....quite possibly without "preconditions" of all things.
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                • Redmanthatcould
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 2771

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gouge
                  How strange, i didnt see anywhere in the article where Petraeus said negotiate. However Mark Carleton-Smith did.
                  WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Army Gen. David Petraeus said on Wednesday that negotiations with some members of the Taliban could provide a way to reduce violence in sections of Afghanistan gripped by an intensifying insurgency.
                  Petraeus said negotiations with insurgents willing to consider reconciliation could reduce violence by isolating hard-core militants, which is what occurred in Iraq's Anbar province when Sunni tribesmen joined U.S. forces against al Qaeda.
                  Umm...? Or were you looking at a different article?

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                  • Redmanthatcould
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 2771

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                    The end result is the same....he wants to sit down and talk with Taliban leaders.....quite possibly without "preconditions" of all things.
                    This seems about as clear as day:

                    "If there are people who are willing to reconcile (with the government), then that would be a positive step in some of these areas that have actually been spiraling downward," said Petraeus, who will soon take up responsibility for U.S. operations in Afghanistan.

                    But, of course, he didn't use the word "precondition", so it's totally different.

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                    • pocketkangaroo
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 8452

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gouge
                      How strange, i didnt see anywhere in the article where Petraeus said negotiate. However Mark Carleton-Smith did.
                      Did you read the first paragraph?

                      "U.S. Army Gen. David Petraeus said on Wednesday that negotiations with some members of the Taliban could provide a way to reduce violence in sections of Afghanistan gripped by an intensifying insurgency. "

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                      • Gouge
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 1438

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VS_Jeff
                        Umm...? Or were you looking at a different article?
                        Thats to reconciliation with the Afghanistan goverment not the US.

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                        • Redmanthatcould
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 2771

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                          Did you read the first paragraph?
                          I think Obama summed it up best himself. After McCain gave his 4th grader's explanation of Obama's tax plan, Obama said:

                          "The straight talk express lost a wheel on that one."

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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #14
                            The British Government negotiated a peace with the IRA, a terrorist organisation supported by many Americans, and the troubles ended. So why not try to end the problems?

                            Yes the Taliban will ask for the world, like the IRA did, and they will settle for what they can get. Like the IRA did. The people who supported the IRA saw the truth and wanted peace, they abandoned the IRA and left with no alternative the IRA had to cede many points. Some of the top IRA men and now in Government in Northern Ireland, even though they deny being in the IRA.

                            Talking around a table is the best way to stop a war. It stopped the war in Vietnam, Korea and others. Talking to the enemy is not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength.



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                            • Juggs
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 176

                              #15
                              I believe I heard somewhere that the Taliban were cutting ties with al Queda or were thinking about it or some shit.

                              I mean, seems pretty smart to me to talk with them if it's true.
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                              • Redmanthatcould
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 2771

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Gouge
                                Thats to reconciliation with the Afghanistan goverment not the US.
                                This is the only thing being discussed in this thread:

                                Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                He wants to negotiate with the Taliban.
                                U.S. Army Gen. David Petraeus said on Wednesday that negotiations with some members of the Taliban
                                I might be taking it for granted, as English is my first language, but what was said, and was was shown seems pretty dead-on.

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                                • Gouge
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2005
                                  • 1438

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                  Did you read the first paragraph?

                                  "U.S. Army Gen. David Petraeus said on Wednesday that negotiations with some members of the Taliban could provide a way to reduce violence in sections of Afghanistan gripped by an intensifying insurgency. "
                                  Yeah i read the article, reuters has a better in depth article on this very issue that clearly states as well as it being US policy that they would have to reconciliation with the Afghanistan goverment before we ever sat down at the table.

                                  This is the same foreign policy thats been on the news for 6 years, nothing new here. Its the same tactic we used with the The Afghan Northern Alliance, or United Islamic Front for the Salvation of Afghanistan and it worked out like a charm.

                                  Same plan, same tactic...reconciliation with the Afghanistan goverment first.

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                                  • Redmanthatcould
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2006
                                    • 2771

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Juggs
                                    I believe I heard somewhere that the Taliban were cutting ties with al Queda or were thinking about it or some shit.

                                    I mean, seems pretty smart to me to talk with them if it's true.
                                    You heard correctly -

                                    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/as...lks/index.html

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                                    • Redmanthatcould
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2006
                                      • 2771

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Gouge
                                      Yeah i read the article, reuters has a better in depth article on this very issue that clearly states as well as it being US policy that they would have to reconciliation with the Afghanistan goverment before we ever sat down at the table.

                                      This is the same foreign policy thats been on the news for 6 years, nothing new here. Its the same tactic we used with the The Afghan Northern Alliance, or United Islamic Front for the Salvation of Afghanistan and it worked out like a charm.

                                      Same plan, same tactic...reconciliation with the Afghanistan goverment first.
                                      If you need to hear him say it, here you go:

                                      http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=91948

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                                      • Enemator
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                                        • Mar 2007
                                        • 1252

                                        #20
                                        Petraeus? Sounds like a Dune or C&C name lol
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                                        • pocketkangaroo
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 8452

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by VS_Jeff
                                          If you need to hear him say it, here you go:

                                          http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=91948
                                          Give him a few minutes to look up another talking point quick.

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                                          • bhutocracy
                                            Not making A Comeback
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 10218

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                            Give him a few minutes to look up another talking point quick.

                                            Or find another older, irrelevant "more in depth" article where Petraeus didn't actually say "negotiate".
                                            Last edited by bhutocracy; 10-09-2008, 03:06 AM.

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                                            • pigman
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 760

                                              #23
                                              Petraeus is a cool fucking name.
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                                              • Snake Doctor
                                                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                • Mar 2001
                                                • 13449

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Gouge
                                                Yeah i read the article, reuters has an article that I like better because it's more in line with my political beliefs and doesn't make it obvious that Petraeus wants to do with the Taliban what Obama has suggested doing with other rogue nations/organizations that McCain called him naive for.

                                                FYP......
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                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                  • 13449

                                                  #25
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