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global financial crisis - how can we profit? [business thread]

10-08-2008, 12:27 PM

How can people in the online or adult biz profit from this world wide financial meltdown?

How can we stay afloat?

How to profit from a decline?

What products keep selling strong in a downturn? What products are worth dropping until better times return?

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10-08-2008, 12:30 PM

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10-08-2008, 12:32 PM

You can profit by not being a retard and not voting for retards like Bush and McCain.
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10-08-2008, 12:32 PM

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10-08-2008, 12:38 PM

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10-08-2008, 12:47 PM

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10-08-2008, 01:31 PM

Theres tons of ways.... its a perfect time to get into emerging markets shares if you're interested in investing and even real estate.

If you want something more solid to hedge against the downside, Gold is an obvious choice.

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10-08-2008, 02:24 PM

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If you want something more solid to hedge against the downside, Gold is an obvious choice.

yea, and watch it plummet as the economy recovers...

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10-08-2008, 02:30 PM

i imagine real estate in usa is now low price opportunity
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10-08-2008, 02:31 PM

What businesses are the most recession proof?

Where does online porn rank?

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10-08-2008, 02:42 PM

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But seriously, I read about a guy who is opening grocery stores that sell expired goods at nearly a 70% discount and he's totally cleaning up.

If you look at some of the most wealthy people throughout history, many made their fortunes in times like this.

Warren Buffet bought a shitload of GE stock, seems like a good move to me.

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10-08-2008, 02:43 PM

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10-08-2008, 02:59 PM

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10-08-2008, 03:00 PM

strangely these past few weeks were really really strong for me...
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10-08-2008, 03:01 PM

bail bonds or those shady payday loans i would think pick up in times like this
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10-08-2008, 03:03 PM

Actually this is a good thread, if you ignore all the trolls replying in it.

I've been brainstorming this for the last week or so, decided to start building some new mainstream information sites, stuff like safe investments, foreclosure buying, debt consolidation, even survival and food shortage.
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10-08-2008, 03:06 PM

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10-08-2008, 03:07 PM

You can't profit. Rotschilds & Morgans planned to get richer by ruining millions of others and there is nothing You can do with it. Also Sorós adapted this tactics and he got tons non-government agencies funded by his Open society foundation and all those "fighters for democrupcy" bitch everyday in Sorós-friendly media just to know of primeministers popularity and get back Politicians under Sorós to power.
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10-08-2008, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by fuzebox

Actually this is a good thread, if you ignore all the trolls replying in it.

I've been brainstorming this for the last week or so, decided to start building some new mainstream information sites, stuff like safe investments, foreclosure buying, debt consolidation, even survival and food shortage.

Now debt consolidation might be a good idea. If you can get financial institutions that will still loan out money to people with debt. BTW Do you know if loan companys actually have or allow affliates.

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10-08-2008, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by fuzebox

Actually this is a good thread, if you ignore all the trolls replying in it.

I've been brainstorming this for the last week or so, decided to start building some new mainstream information sites, stuff like safe investments, foreclosure buying, debt consolidation, even survival and food shortage.

I've been thinking along your lines, debt consolidation and payday loans in particular. Not really worried about the survival stuff though unless it's basic saving for tards ebooks, things aren't THAT bad no matter how rabidly the media is driving sentiment into the ground. It's a pity someone else didn't start the thread.

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10-08-2008, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by woj

yea, and watch it plummet as the economy recovers...

Thats the whole point of hedging against the downside. If the economy goes to crap, you gain and if the economy recovers, you gain. WIN WIN.

No-one is dumb enough to put everything in gold. Its usually something youd put 5% - 10% of your cash into if there was a serious risk of adverse conditions such as those we find ourselves in today.

Worth mentioning that October is Indian Wedding season when the gold price traditionally rallies by around 10% so theres some additional upside in the short term.

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10-08-2008, 04:26 PM

Online advertising will continue to grow overall (and to a point) as advertisers move ever more scarce advertising dollars away from expensive traditional media and into cheaper online campaigns. Also when oil prices start to rise again because of actual tangible dwindling production you'll have more people telecommuting and spending more time online in a year or five depending on how long this slowdown has delayed things.. Whether they've got enough money to spend will be another thing, but I do still see overall growth in time spent online.
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10-08-2008, 04:40 PM

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10-08-2008, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy

Online advertising will continue to grow overall (and to a point) as advertisers move ever more scarce advertising dollars away from expensive traditional media and into cheaper online campaigns. Also when oil prices start to rise again because of actual tangible dwindling production you'll have more people telecommuting and spending more time online in a year or five depending on how long this slowdown has delayed things.. Whether they've got enough money to spend will be another thing, but I do still see overall growth in time spent online.

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SEATTLE (AP) -- Shares of Yahoo Inc. slid Wednesday after analysts said worse-than-expected conditions in the display Web advertising market will make for a tough finish to 2008 for the Web portal and search company.

Sunnyvale, Calif.-based Yahoo's stock fell 82 cents, or 5.6 percent, to $13.76 and earlier hit a five-year low of $13.20. In the past year, Yahoo shares have traded as low as $14.53 and as high as $34.08.

American Technology Research analyst Rob Sanderson wrote in a note to investors that as companies grow more cautious about Web ad spending through the current economic crisis, Yahoo's display advertising business will take a hit.
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10-08-2008, 04:45 PM

Certain mainstream verticals are either not effected and/or benefiting from the situation.

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10-08-2008, 05:21 PM

When people lose their house, cars, get divorced... their depressed. Depression leads to drinking and porn. The economy should do well for porn surfers... problem is too much free! Find the formula to push the average free surfer to pay and you'll make it!

My point is their will be more surfers googling "hot local whore" then ever before. Just need to capatilize... which means compete with the tubes.

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10-08-2008, 05:39 PM

Residential rental properties and/or rental management services would seem to be worth looking into.
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10-08-2008, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by mmcfadden

When people lose their house, cars, get divorced... their depressed. Depression leads to drinking and porn. The economy should do well for porn surfers... problem is too much free! Find the formula to push the average free surfer to pay and you'll make it!

My point is their will be more surfers googling "hot local whore" then ever before. Just need to capatilize... which means compete with the tubes.

Or... open a liquor store

Beat me to the punch.

Liquor store for sure.
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10-08-2008, 09:56 PM

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Shares of Yahoo sink as analysts forecast slowdown in Web display advertising

SEATTLE (AP) -- Shares of Yahoo Inc. slid Wednesday after analysts said worse-than-expected conditions in the display Web advertising market will make for a tough finish to 2008 for the Web portal and search company.

Sunnyvale, Calif.-based Yahoo's stock fell 82 cents, or 5.6 percent, to $13.76 and earlier hit a five-year low of $13.20. In the past year, Yahoo shares have traded as low as $14.53 and as high as $34.08.

American Technology Research analyst Rob Sanderson wrote in a note to investors that as companies grow more cautious about Web ad spending through the current economic crisis, Yahoo's display advertising business will take a hit.

Oh yes it's horrible, instead of 30% growth they will have to make do with 20%. Poor dears. Meanwhile traditional media dreams about merely not growing as much.

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Online search advertising, dominated by Google, is still expected to exceed 20 per cent, bringing overall growth for online advertising to about 15 per cent for the 2009 fiscal year."
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10-08-2008, 10:03 PM

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10-08-2008, 10:17 PM

In the short term the AUD/USD is declining so I'm getting more local currency per USD than a month or two ago. I'm hoping we'll get to party like it's 2001 sometime soon, when one US dollar bought more than 2 Australian dollars. Noice! :D
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10-08-2008, 10:41 PM

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10-08-2008, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by woj

yea, and watch it plummet as the economy recovers...

When real estate bottoms out (if it ever does), that's when you sell the gold and buy land

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10-08-2008, 10:58 PM

Do Costco have an affiliate program?
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10-08-2008, 11:08 PM

i kinda figured that those businesses that compete with the web and have been haning on by a thin string (print publications, for example) would finally bite the bullet due to this crisis, which would make the web that much more worthy.

porn specifically: i dunno. we are eating ourselves

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10-08-2008, 11:15 PM

i think real estate as well as high risk loans that are backed by collateral will be great segments.

traditional credit is going to become scarce. a friend of mine owns many commercial offices. one of his best tenants is a company that loans up to 50% equity on low value homes.

example. a home that is worth $50k that is paid for (there are a lot more of these properties than you would think), this company will give up to a $25k loan at around 18-20% apr.

this company is killing it. they pay my friend his rent in cash and usually pay 2-3 months at a time, ahead of time.

whenever i go to his office, i see 4-6 people at his tenants office either making a payment or taking out a loan.

people come and go all day long.
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10-08-2008, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by marketsmart

example. a home that is worth $50k that is paid for (there are a lot more of these properties than you would think), this company will give up to a $25k loan at around 18-20% apr.

Is your friend registering mortgages or liens on the property?
I've done this for a few people at around 10-12%.
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10-08-2008, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Is your friend registering mortgages or liens on the property?
I've done this for a few people at around 10-12%.
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it's his tenant... but yes, they become lien holders on the property.. i am still trying to figure out exactly how they do things..
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10-08-2008, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by marketsmart

it's his tenant... but yes, they become lien holders on the property.. i am still trying to figure out exactly how they do things..

I'd love to know as well as those interest rates are significantly higher than I've done and I'd like to know how he's doing it ;)

I've been doing the same via 2nd mortgages which are really secure, but by the way you described it, it doesn't sound like he's doing the formality of registering a mortgage, just using the house as standard collateral for non-payers.
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10-08-2008, 11:34 PM

i will let you know as soon as i find out.. my friend is trying to get into this on a limited basis and i am trying to get involved as well...
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10-08-2008, 11:42 PM

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10-08-2008, 11:44 PM

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10-08-2008, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by marketsmart

example. a home that is worth $50k that is paid for (there are a lot more of these properties than you would think), this company will give up to a $25k loan at around 18-20% apr.

Is the goal to ultimately take the home away from borrower? I can't imagine many people who live in a $50K home being able to afford a $25K loan at 20% APR.

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10-08-2008, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by mynameisjim

Is the goal to ultimately take the home away from borrower? I can't imagine many people who live in a $50K home being able to afford a $25K loan at 20% APR.

He means 50k in equity. If the house is worth $350k and the mortgage still has $300k left to be paid, then the house has $50k in equity.
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10-08-2008, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

He means 50k in equity. If the house is worth $350k and the mortgage still has $300k left to be paid, then the house has $50k in equity.
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That's a bit different then. It read as though he was talking about $50K homes being used as collateral which would be even worse than a payday loan for those poor folks.

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10-08-2008, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by rowan

In the short term the AUD/USD is declining so I'm getting more local currency per USD than a month or two ago. I'm hoping we'll get to party like it's 2001 sometime soon, when one US dollar bought more than 2 Australian dollars. Noice! :D

same for canadians...I am doing better than I have in a while with the conversion rate
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10-09-2008, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

He means 50k in equity. If the house is worth $350k and the mortgage still has $300k left to be paid, then the house has $50k in equity.
WG

let me clarify... they can borrow up to 50% of their equity...

however, i think the company will only loan up to $50k, so may house value would be $100k..

and yes, its almost as bad as a payday loan, but payday loans are typically 20% per month i think..

this company lends to higher risk people that dont have the credit to get conventional loans or lines of credit..

i am still learning all the details, but so far they seem to have a very low default rate and their clients seem to borrow only what they can pay back..
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