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  • dropped9
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    • Jan 2001
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    #1

    I want to vote for Obama.... BUT.........

    Him and the democrats got us into this housing shit that ruined the economy.

    Fuck they both suck........
  • Drake
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    • Mar 2003
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    #2
    Wall Street greed caused it, not one party or the other.

    Great 60 minutes piece about how things happened. See the video:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4502454.shtml

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    • Headless
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      #3
      yes greed did... but everytime legislation was brought before congress the dems struck it down...

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      • tony299
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        #4
        read more thats not true. The republicans had control for 5 of the 7 yrs and the democrats had a slim margin after that. The right wanted deregulation this is what you get when you have deregulation. Companies just wont self regulate. also lowering taxes going to war at the same time didnt help this.
        Last edited by tony286; 10-05-2008, 05:05 PM.

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        • Drake
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          #5
          Originally posted by Headless
          yes greed did... but everytime legislation was brought before congress the dems struck it down...
          One could go back and forth with this all day. Which party controlled Congress for the majority of the time? Which party encouraged and supported deregulation.

          This is the problem. People are only willing to look at this problem through a partisan prism. Nothing gets solved that way.

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          • notoldschool
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            #6
            Ask yourself who is more intelligent and displays excellent leadership skills. Thats who should be president.
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            • OG LennyT
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              #7
              Obama can't be trusted. period.
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              • Drake
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                #8
                Originally posted by notoldschool
                Ask yourself who is more intelligent and displays excellent leadership skills. Thats who should be president.
                Or potential President:

                She is perky, peppy, bubbly, one of those shiny, happy glass-half-full types whose folksy ?betchas? and ?shout-outs? to third-graders and winks would be welcome in the nurse wheeling you from the operating room or the flight attendant reassuring you as your jet bounces at 30,000 feet. Her style would go over great debating for student council.

                But in a person who could be president? It?s just weird, childish, silly, even patronizing, as if we voters are third-graders ourselves. And that relentless chipperness, real or faux? Enough already.

                Imagine, if you will, a debate between the aforementioned Hillary. As one local female politician put it, ?Hillary would?ve eaten her lunch.? Imagine other local female politicians winking at anybody, even once, in a debate. Attorney General Martha Coakley? Former Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey? Suffolk Sheriff Andrea Cabral? No, I don?t think so. The difference between these women and Palin is clear: They are serious, thoughtful, analytical, sophisticated - good qualities, in case we?ve forgotten. They could name you a Supreme Court decision without panicking. And they?d never, ever pretend hockey-momming has anything to do with running the world.
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                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Headless
                  Him and the democrats got us into this housing shit that ruined the economy.

                  Fuck they both suck........
                  Ya should do a fact check on that. It was the Republicans that de regulated the Mortgage and financial industries. Almost all the biased and unbiased fact check sites say so.

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                  • marketsmart
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                    • Dec 2004
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                    #10
                    i will say this for the 100th time... the republicans have had 8 years to make things better...

                    we are in a terrible situation with the final outcome being an unknown..

                    we have a dem controlled house and senate... which is only going to get more dem seats this election...

                    lets give the dems 4 years to see what they can do different...

                    maybe they fail, maybe they turn this country around... i would rather give them a shot than mccain who is clearly going to just keep steaming along with the failed bush policy..

                    i am almost to the point where i am willing to beg people to vote for obama for the above reasons...

                    ask yourself, what have we got to lose... obama may be this generations kennedy and just might be able to get people excited about this country again...

                    its only 4 years...

                    think about it....

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                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by marketsmart
                      i will say this for the 100th time... the republicans have had 8 years to make things better...

                      we are in a terrible situation with the final outcome being an unknown..

                      we have a dem controlled house and senate... which is only going to get more dem seats this election...

                      lets give the dems 4 years to see what they can do different...

                      maybe they fail, maybe they turn this country around... i would rather give them a shot than mccain who is clearly going to just keep steaming along with the failed bush policy..

                      i am almost to the point where i am willing to beg people to vote for obama for the above reasons...

                      ask yourself, what have we got to lose... obama may be this generations kennedy and just might be able to get people excited about this country again...

                      its only 4 years...

                      think about it....
                      Even Lab rats change behavior when faced with consequences when pressing the wrong button. So far Americans have had the choice to choose 2 buttons, they chose the same button 2 times in a row and got shocked both fucking times. One can only wonder why Americans would want to push it again in some desperate hope to avoid further disaster.

                      Appearently for some folks that survived the shocks during the first 2 times will hit the wrong one again for a 3rd time without even thinking twice.
                      Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-05-2008, 05:45 PM.

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                      • Sausage
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by notoldschool
                        Ask yourself who is more intelligent and displays excellent leadership skills. Thats who should be president.
                        Ron Paul ... or even Clinton would have been nice.

                        The current idiots surely can't be the best the US can throw up ?!
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                        • NTSS
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                          #13
                          Greedy rich republicans...dirty mother fuckers
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                          • kane
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                            Even Lab rats change behavior when faced with consequences when pressing the wrong button. So far Americans have had the choice to choose 2 buttons, they chose the same button 2 times in a row and got shocked both fucking times. One can only wonder why Americans would want to push it again in some desperate hope to avoid further disaster.

                            Appearently for some folks that survived the shocks during the first 2 times will hit the wrong one again for a 3rd time without even thinking twice.
                            There are a lot of people out there who will never vote democrat - no matter what. They are willing to get shocked over and over again as long as a democrat doesn't win. There are also a lot of people out there that will never vote republican - no matter what. The reasons for these votes often have next to nothing to do with economy. Many voters assume whoever ends up in the white house they will fuck them over with the economy so the religous right votes for the pro-guns, pro-life, pro-god candidate and the liberals vote for the pro-choice, pro-gun control candidate.

                            It is sad, but true.

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                            • NTSS
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Headless
                              yes greed did... but everytime legislation was brought before congress the dems struck it down...
                              The first time any legislation introduced by the so-called "Maverick" was in 2005. Both the senate and the house where controlled by republicans at that time. The bill was such a piece of bullshit it was rejected by not only Dems, but by Republicans too.

                              The only people responsible for this mess is the greedy mofos that don't give a shit about the average working American...we know which party holds that title.
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                              • notoldschool
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by OG LennyT
                                Obama can't be trusted. period.
                                Conservatives at Harvard voted him president of harvard law review because they trusted him. And we should believe some ignorant guy on a web board that he is not trustworty? Please... i will go with all those crazy guys at a ivy league that voted a black man named Barack into the most prestigious position at any place of higher education.
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                                • dav3
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by OG LennyT
                                  Politicians can't be trusted. period.
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                                  • badmunchkin
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Headless
                                    Him and the democrats got us into this housing shit that ruined the economy.

                                    Fuck they both suck........
                                    you're one of those people who watches the completely false McCain ads and believes them, huh? - the man who created the mess we're in was McCain's own economic advisor

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                                    • pigman
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                                      #19
                                      Deregulation and the banks themself are solely blame for this.
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                                      • buzzy
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by OG LennyT
                                        Obama can't be trusted. period.
                                        but an old man who can barley remember his own name, is a proven liar and mental case can be trusted?

                                        americans....funny breed of people you lot

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                                        • Mr. Blue
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                                          #21
                                          More or less Washington sucks. Republicans and Dems are pretty much only interested in tearing down each other instead of building up America. Until we dramatically change the following: Term Limits on Congress and Campaign finance reform we're just going to get an endless stream of candidates no one is really thrilled about.

                                          McCain/Obama two people I don't want to see as President. Which is the lesser of two evils, honestly I have the luxury of voting for neither of them because my State is going to Obama no matter what. If I were in a battleground state, I'd probably vote Obama just to see what the fuck he does. That's not a vote of confidence it's more of a vote of...oh cool a red button, let's just press it to see what the hell will happen.
                                          See Sig...oh wait.

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                                          • Snake Doctor
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                                            • Mar 2001
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                                            #22
                                            I could get into this, totally debunk the idea that the housing crisis somehow the democrats fault with facts and reputable sources....but it wouldn't matter, wouldn't change a single mind or a single vote.

                                            I think I'll go find a tube site to jerk off too, that will be a better use of my time.
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                                            • buzzy
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                              I could get into this, totally debunk the idea that the housing crisis somehow the democrats fault with facts and reputable sources....but it wouldn't matter, wouldn't change a single mind or a single vote.

                                              I think I'll go find a tube site to jerk off too, that will be a better use of my time.
                                              Scary but you are right

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                                              • teg0
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                                                #24
                                                This thread lacks facts.

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                                                • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                  #25
                                                  When American voters actually get into the voting booths, many will get last minute jitters about voting for Obama --and that will be very good for our country!
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                                                  • Azoy?
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Headless
                                                    Him and the democrats got us into this housing shit that ruined the economy.

                                                    Fuck they both suck........
                                                    Maybe you should run for office then since you know it all

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                                                    • SoloGirlsContent
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                                                      #27
                                                      Obama is tired of fucking around with McCain,.. he's already to get up in that old ass of his..LOOK
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                                                      • Headless
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                                                        #28
                                                        so many people with so much hatred in this thread

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                                                        • brassmonkey
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                                                          #29
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                                                          • Drake
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                                                            #30
                                                            I watched the debate again and came away with a new perspective. Not only is Palin hot but she's giving off some pretty incredible subliminal messages. You be the judge:

                                                            "I know what the hurts are... I know what the joys are.."

                                                            "John McCain has allready tapped me 94 times"

                                                            <wink> "And how long.." <wink>

                                                            "People are SOOO hungry for those hockey Moms"

                                                            "That's encouragement <wink>... get the job done"

                                                            "John McCain has tapped me, said 'that's where I want you, I want YOU to lead'"

                                                            "I can't wait"

                                                            "You're gonna hear his passion <wink> and I'm gonna push... backwards and forward... push harder.. pushed hard 94 times"

                                                            "heatup reckless energy.. getting closer and closer to that really good pleasing point, drill, baby, drill!"

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                                                            • notoldschool
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                              When American voters actually get into the voting booths, many will get last minute jitters about voting for Obama --and that will be very good for our country!
                                                              You posting your dreams again?
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                                                              • Tom_PM
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                                                                #32
                                                                "heatup reckless energy.. getting closer and closer to that really good pleasing point, drill, baby, drill!"

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                                                                • tiger
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                                  I could get into this, totally debunk the idea that the housing crisis somehow the democrats fault with facts and reputable sources....but it wouldn't matter, wouldn't change a single mind or a single vote.

                                                                  I think I'll go find a tube site to jerk off too, that will be a better use of my time.

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                                                                  • GatorB
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                                                                    • Oct 2001
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Headless
                                                                    Him and the democrats got us into this housing shit that ruined the economy.

                                                                    Fuck they both suck........
                                                                    If you believe that you are stupid. So everyhting happened in teh alst 2 years. The GOP controlling the white house for the last 7 1/2 years had nothing to do with it? The GOP controlling congress from 1995-2007 had nothing to do with it? This is what you believe? The Dems in the last 2 years suddenly changed the laws in the last 1 1/2 years to make this happened? Oh by the way, if they did actually do that, any new laws would have to be signed into law by BUSH.

                                                                    The ingorance of people about how governemnt actually works shocks me.

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                                                                    • xxxRumor
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      we just have to vote Obama!

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                                                                      • StuartD
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                                        I could get into this, totally debunk the idea that the housing crisis somehow the democrats fault with facts and reputable sources....but it wouldn't matter, wouldn't change a single mind or a single vote.

                                                                        I think I'll go find a tube site to jerk off too, that will be a better use of my time.
                                                                        Yup, pretty much dead on.
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                                                                        • Tom_PM
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                          If you believe that you are stupid. So everyhting happened in teh alst 2 years. The GOP controlling the white house for the last 7 1/2 years had nothing to do with it? The GOP controlling congress from 1995-2007 had nothing to do with it? This is what you believe? The Dems in the last 2 years suddenly changed the laws in the last 1 1/2 years to make this happened? Oh by the way, if they did actually do that, any new laws would have to be signed into law by BUSH.

                                                                          The ingorance of people about how governemnt actually works shocks me.
                                                                          Dont forget Phil Gramm lobbying his little ass off to deregulate the banking and lending industry. Gee, did that have anything to do with it? lmfao!

                                                                          Then he worked for McCains campaign. Why wouldnt he? They're BFF's.
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                                                                          • CDSmith
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by kane
                                                                            There are a lot of people out there who will never vote democrat - no matter what. They are willing to get shocked over and over again as long as a democrat doesn't win. There are also a lot of people out there that will never vote republican - no matter what. The reasons for these votes often have next to nothing to do with economy. Many voters assume whoever ends up in the white house they will fuck them over with the economy so the religous right votes for the pro-guns, pro-life, pro-god candidate and the liberals vote for the pro-choice, pro-gun control candidate.

                                                                            It is sad, but true.
                                                                            Or all the young voters who simply parrot the views of their parent or parents. Like when a dominant parent is extremely racist, often that prejudice is passed on to the kid. Political blinders are likewise passed down.
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                                                                            • Mr. Cool Ice
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              BUT...... he's black and his name is funny.

                                                                              That about sums it up.

                                                                              Oh yea, he also has FAT pockets from taking hand outs, I mean "contributions" from the very banks and financial agencies that just took a shit and now need to be bailed out. One of the top receivers from these institutions that just fucked everyone. How nice.
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                                                                              • SunTzu
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                i will say this for the 100th time... the republicans have had 8 years to make things better...

                                                                                we are in a terrible situation with the final outcome being an unknown..

                                                                                we have a dem controlled house and senate... which is only going to get more dem seats this election...

                                                                                lets give the dems 4 years to see what they can do different...

                                                                                maybe they fail, maybe they turn this country around... i would rather give them a shot than mccain who is clearly going to just keep steaming along with the failed bush policy..

                                                                                i am almost to the point where i am willing to beg people to vote for obama for the above reasons...

                                                                                ask yourself, what have we got to lose... obama may be this generations kennedy and just might be able to get people excited about this country again...

                                                                                its only 4 years...

                                                                                think about it....
                                                                                agreed good way to think of it.

                                                                                Repubs and dems have fucked things up over the years, I don't agree with either side 100%. But 8 years of pure shit?? Besides the economy...

                                                                                -- Insistence on staying in Iraq - corruption by Haliburton, Bush, and Cheney.
                                                                                -- Mccain is bad enough - but Palin is worse and she's only one heartbeat away from controlling your life. ...You do work in the adult industry don't you?

                                                                                enough is enough.
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                                                                                • Headless
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Mr. Cool Ice
                                                                                  BUT...... he's black and his name is funny.

                                                                                  That about sums it up.

                                                                                  Oh yea, he also has FAT pockets from taking hand outs, I mean "contributions" from the very banks and financial agencies that just took a shit and now need to be bailed out. One of the top receivers from these institutions that just fucked everyone. How nice.
                                                                                  Didnt obama get like 150k from fannie n freddie?

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                                                                                  • nico-t
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    OBAMA motherfucker! Do you speak it!!???

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                                                                                    • sweetcuties
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Obama 08 - Finally someone intelligent will be in the White House

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                                                                                      • Snake Doctor
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Headless
                                                                                        Didnt obama get like 150k from fannie n freddie?
                                                                                        He got 150K from people who work at fannie and freddie.....not directly from the companies....as is the case with McCain's campaign manager.

                                                                                        If someone who works for exxon gives money to Obama's campaign, that doesn't mean Obama is in bed with exxon, it means a guy who works for exxon likes Obama.
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                                                                                        • sweetredhead
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          heard a new stat the other night, out of the 941 (roughly) times Obama has actually voting in the Senate each time was for an approx. $1million in additional spending. In the last 7,000+ times McCain has voted in the Senate he has voted for $0 in additional spending that is
                                                                                          $941 million in useless spending for Obama and
                                                                                          $0 in additional spending for McCain soooo i think

                                                                                          OBAMA SUCKS!!!
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                                                                                          • theharvman
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by sweetredhead
                                                                                            heard a new stat the other night, out of the 941 (roughly) times Obama has actually voting in the Senate each time was for an approx. $1million in additional spending. In the last 7,000+ times McCain has voted in the Senate he has voted for $0 in additional spending that is
                                                                                            $941 million in useless spending for Obama and
                                                                                            $0 in additional spending for McCain soooo i think

                                                                                            OBAMA SUCKS!!!

                                                                                            Though I think neither should of gone this far...

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                                                                                            • NicAngel
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              we're screwed either way
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                                                                                              • NTSS
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by OG LennyT
                                                                                                Obama can't be trusted. period.
                                                                                                That's the most ridiculous statement i ever heard. Can any politician be trusted? lol
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                                                                                                • cherrylula
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                                                                  Ask yourself who is more intelligent and displays excellent leadership skills. Thats who should be president.
                                                                                                  ...and they have to be skilled enough to replace this guy,



                                                                                                  them is some big shoes to fill, brownie.

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                                                                                                  • Mr. Cool Ice
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Headless
                                                                                                    Didnt obama get like 150k from fannie n freddie?
                                                                                                    Obama has picked up a TON of money from shady companies.

                                                                                                    Check out Ron Pauls site, there is a list for both Obama and McCain.
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