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  • stickyfingerz
    Doin fine
    • Oct 2005
    • 24984

    #101
    Originally posted by latinasojourn
    thanks for articulating what most reasonable people understand.
    Articulating it via wrong facts. Yes thanks for that...

    50 sentences..

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    • latinasojourn
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2003
      • 3191

      #102
      Originally posted by Rorschach
      If a girl is genuinely crying and is in obvious distress, the technicality of money having changed hands doesn't make it any less forced. If, while Max is throatfucking her so she can't breath, she begs him to stop and he doesn't, that's rape. Payment doesn't make the issue of coercion any less real in the moment... It just means the girl is getting paid to get raped, rather than getting raped and no money changing hands.

      Max made content for degenerates and it tarnished the image and ability of webmasters to operate legitimate businesses.

      thanks for articulating what most reasonable people understand.

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      • Redrob
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2004
        • 4791

        #103
        I hope time passes easily for Max.

        If he decides to stay in the industry when he gets out, I hope he doesn't repeat his past mistakes.

        He really is a talented guy underneath all that rough reputation.

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        • ppcwiz
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2005
          • 539

          #104
          his domains have been "forfeited"

          ...the end of max hardcore career?

          i dono... but

          wish him all the best though

          we all deserve 2nd chances

          met the guy once... lil on the weird side but wtf isnt this days and whos to judge?



          doubt he will get out sooner then 4 yrs or be back in the biz

          time to retire

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          • nico-t
            emperor of my world
            • Aug 2004
            • 29901

            #105
            Originally posted by stickyfingerz
            You saved me a few minutes of posting. hehe

            Ill add that porn is FUCKING FANTASY. Im not a fan of his films either, but as long as it is all consensual so be it.

            Fucking porn morality police crack me up.
            why do you vote on neo cons again?

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            • directfiesta
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Oct 2002
              • 30183

              #106
              Originally posted by nico-t
              why do you vote on neo cons again?
              Well, Sticky sees this case without partisanship. I think it is very mature of him, and if more people could see issue per issue, the usa would be much better off...
              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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              • nico-t
                emperor of my world
                • Aug 2004
                • 29901

                #107
                Originally posted by directfiesta
                Well, Sticky sees this case without partisanship. I think it is very mature of him, and if more people could see issue per issue, the usa would be much better off...
                I think sticky is brainwashed.

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                • stickyfingerz
                  Doin fine
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 24984

                  #108
                  Originally posted by directfiesta
                  Well, Sticky sees this case without partisanship. I think it is very mature of him, and if more people could see issue per issue, the usa would be much better off...
                  Im a very liberal conservative hehe. There are a lot of us. We aren't independent, and we aren't libertarian. We are different.

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                  • stickyfingerz
                    Doin fine
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 24984

                    #109
                    Originally posted by nico-t
                    I think sticky is brainwashed.
                    If brainwashing worked on me I would hate porn, weed, and prostitution. I love them hehe.

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                    • chodadog
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 9736

                      #110
                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                      All of this is well documented.
                      Where? Source? Link?
                      26 + 6 = 1

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                      • Pete-KT
                        Workin With The Devil
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 51532

                        #111
                        interesting

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                        • rayadp05
                          TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 4175

                          #112
                          Will he serve his time in the state of Florida or in the state of California?....(since he is a California resident.) I guess he will serve his time in Florida since that was where the trial took place.

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                          • Drake
                            Hello world!
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 12508

                            #113
                            Mr. Max Hardcore meet Bubba.

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                            • SZNY
                              SZNY
                              • May 2004
                              • 2800

                              #114
                              Personally I don't like this type of movies but this is some serious shit.

                              Again a new frontier defined by US justice / gov.

                              I wish him all the best.
                              Telegram: sandroanthonio

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                              • marketsmart
                                HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 20419

                                #115
                                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                If brainwashing worked on me I would hate porn, weed, and prostitution. I love them hehe.
                                someday, i will convince you to become an independent... you are about 20% there...

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                                • Mr. Cool Ice
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 1289

                                  #116
                                  Honestly, if I was Max I would have moved to someplace in Europe a long time ago, given up my American citizenship and worked the way I wanted to. I mean, if he was THAT hell bent on shooting THAT type of content, he knew better than to do it from the former USA.

                                  He wanted to buck the system and now the system bucked back.
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                                  • andrej_NDC
                                    Registered User
                                    • May 2004
                                    • 7760

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by xxweekxx
                                    omg all u fucking narrow minded fucks..

                                    THE GIRLS AGREED/CONSENTED/WERE PAID.. seriously speaking

                                    if i pay a girl money, and tell her im gonna shit on her, piss on her, then fuck her in the ass till she bleeds, and she agrees, how the fuck is that illegal??

                                    people sell their body parts everytime for money.. its all about CONSENT.

                                    Land of the free my ass?? IF i pay YOU AND YOU AGREE, WTF Is the problem.

                                    RAPE is when you fuck a girl and she didnt consent, thast a crime.. now if i "pretend"to rape a girl but afterwards pay her, then wtf is the problem.. man fuck all you narrow minded fucks...republican sons of biatches
                                    So if you AGREE to be killed, I pay you for it and then kill you, its all good? Just because you agreed?

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                                    • andrej_NDC
                                      Registered User
                                      • May 2004
                                      • 7760

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                      If brainwashing worked on me I would hate porn, weed, and prostitution. I love them hehe.
                                      You need a brain to get brainwashed.

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                                      • Mr. Cool Ice
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2006
                                        • 1289

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                        So if you AGREE to be killed, I pay you for it and then kill you, its all good? Just because you agreed?
                                        That's extreme.

                                        I'm pretty sure all of Max's girls knew what they were getting into before they came to shoot and were paid well for it. If not and he just surprised them with all of that shit, then hang his hillbilly ass, but I don't think it went down that way.
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                                        • andrej_NDC
                                          Registered User
                                          • May 2004
                                          • 7760

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Mr. Cool Ice
                                          That's extreme.

                                          I'm pretty sure all of Max's girls knew what they were getting into before they came to shoot and were paid well for it. If not and he just surprised them with all of that shit, then hang his hillbilly ass, but I don't think it went down that way.
                                          If a girl has to say she had her first sex at the age of 3, doesn't matter if she agreed or not.

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                                          • myboringlife
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2005
                                            • 196

                                            #121
                                            I read the headline and thought.. hrmm, how horrible.. wtf is wrong with this country?! That's way too much time for someone that's just making a few porn movies. Then when you get down to the facts of the case.. wow, that's really not enough time at all. This sicko is getting his jollies and creating a whole new feast for all the creeps out there that can't find enough crap to feed their sick brains. There is far too much violence in our culture today, including mainstream media. Now they should go after the losers that bought this trash.

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                                            • commonsense
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Feb 2007
                                              • 1790

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by myboringlife
                                              I read the headline and thought.. hrmm, how horrible.. wtf is wrong with this country?! That's way too much time for someone that's just making a few porn movies. Then when you get down to the facts of the case.. wow, that's really not enough time at all. This sicko is getting his jollies and creating a whole new feast for all the creeps out there that can't find enough crap to feed their sick brains. There is far too much violence in our culture today, including mainstream media. Now they should go after the losers that bought this trash.


                                              You are a fucking idiot.


                                              Because YOU don't like or enjoy something (MADE WITH CONSENTING ADULTS) it's wrong?



                                              Turn in your GFY card and get the fuck out of here.

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                                              • commonsense
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Feb 2007
                                                • 1790

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by myboringlife
                                                I read the headline and thought.. hrmm, how horrible.. wtf is wrong with this country?! That's way too much time for someone that's just making a few porn movies. Then when you get down to the facts of the case.. wow, that's really not enough time at all. This sicko is getting his jollies and creating a whole new feast for all the creeps out there that can't find enough crap to feed their sick brains. There is far too much violence in our culture today, including mainstream media. Now they should go after the losers that bought this trash.


                                                FYI, someone is signup up to programs using the web url myboringlife.com and trying to fraud programs.
                                                Last edited by commonsense; 10-04-2008, 06:16 PM.

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                                                • BusterBunny
                                                  perverted justice decoy
                                                  • Aug 2005
                                                  • 19291

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Mike33
                                                  Mr. Max Hardcore meet Bubba.
                                                  shit he is going to be with enron type fools...they are the ones that should be afraid this is max hardcore after all
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                                                  • Libertine
                                                    sex dwarf
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 17860

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by commonsense
                                                    You are a fucking idiot.


                                                    Because YOU don't like or enjoy something (MADE WITH CONSENTING ADULTS) it's wrong?
                                                    You lack common sense.

                                                    The problem many people have with this is exactly that from what is known, many of the girls didn't consent to what they actually got.

                                                    Compare it to a mainstream actor who gets a role for a fistfight in a movie and is told that it "can be a bit rough". If he comes on the set, finds Kimbo there and gets beaten to a pulp while yelling for Kimbo to stop, a line gets crossed.
                                                    Last edited by Libertine; 10-04-2008, 06:38 PM.
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                                                    • Rorschach
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 5579

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by Libertine
                                                      Compare it to a mainstream actor who gets a role for a fistfight in a movie and is told that it "can be a bit rough". If he comes on the set, finds Kimbo there and gets beaten to a pulp while yelling for Kimbo to stop, a line gets crossed.
                                                      But he got paid for it - that makes it alright!

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                                                      • RayBonga
                                                        too cool for highschool
                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                        • 12164

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Libertine
                                                        You lack common sense.

                                                        The problem many people have with this is exactly that from what is known, many of the girls didn't consent to what they actually got.

                                                        Compare it to a mainstream actor who gets a role for a fistfight in a movie and is told that it "can be a bit rough". If he comes on the set, finds Kimbo there and gets beaten to a pulp while yelling for Kimbo to stop, a line gets crossed.
                                                        You are 100% right, when I first heard about this guy being sent to prison I thought it was fucked up. Then I checked some of his movies and I'm wishing he gt more time.

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                                                        • RayBonga
                                                          too cool for highschool
                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                          • 12164

                                                          #128
                                                          btw, it's really fucked up that a lot of people at this board feel that as soon as a girl signs up for porn and takes the money all her rights fly out the window and she can be abused, beaten and raped.

                                                          I hope the FBI/police goes trhough his members list and starts identifying the fuckers that enjoy this filth

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                                                          • commonsense
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Feb 2007
                                                            • 1790

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by Libertine
                                                            You lack common sense.

                                                            The problem many people have with this is exactly that from what is known, many of the girls didn't consent to what they actually got.

                                                            Compare it to a mainstream actor who gets a role for a fistfight in a movie and is told that it "can be a bit rough". If he comes on the set, finds Kimbo there and gets beaten to a pulp while yelling for Kimbo to stop, a line gets crossed.

                                                            Max Hardcore has been producing for 15 years, maybe more. With that amount of time and dealing with models in sexual production you will have those that feel regret over what they have done for money. It happens in this business, as it would in ANY business. Life if full of regret.

                                                            There are those that love to vilify others to justify their own sexual tastes. There are girls that LOVE being fucked hard and rough. Then then are those that don't.


                                                            To state that girls in porn movies are RAPED because it might be harder fucking that what you have experienced in your own life or past your tolerance point is idiotic. if you don't want to watch it.... DON'T WATCH IT. It is produced between consenting adults.


                                                            ANYTHING physical will have risks (and rewards if done correctly). For those in the fights with Kimbo (your silly analogy that has nothing to do with this), those guys could have been on the opposite end of the stick, and caused harm to Kimbo correct? In your opinion these "delicate flowers" were taken advantage of by mean ol' Max hardcore and used. It's obvious you cannot grasp and accept that there are people in this world with different tastes than yours.


                                                            Let ADULTS make their own decisions, unless you enjoy having the government in every facet of your life.
                                                            Last edited by commonsense; 10-04-2008, 07:23 PM.

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                                                            • commonsense
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                              • 1790

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by RayBonga
                                                              btw, it's really fucked up that a lot of people at this board feel that as soon as a girl signs up for porn and takes the money all her rights fly out the window and she can be abused, beaten and raped.

                                                              I hope the FBI/police goes trhough his members list and starts identifying the fuckers that enjoy this filth


                                                              At one time it seemed you were a level-headed person Ray. But throwing out hot button phrases like "abuse" and "rape" (your own opinions), then advocating the FBI (YOUR TAX DOLLARS) to track down people who view something made by consenting adults for consenting adults?

                                                              Good work Jackass!

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                                                              • The Duck
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                                                                • May 2005
                                                                • 18243

                                                                #131
                                                                That is fucked up but so are his movies.
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                                                                • jakethedog
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                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                  • 2497

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by RayBonga
                                                                  btw, it's really fucked up that a lot of people at this board feel that as soon as a girl signs up for porn and takes the money all her rights fly out the window and she can be abused, beaten and raped.

                                                                  I hope the FBI/police goes trhough his members list and starts identifying the fuckers that enjoy this filth
                                                                  yeah hell who knows .. they might drink alcohol and smoke the odd joint ..... you sir are a fucking imbecile ... porn ...twisted fucking creepy nasty shit is what created this here interweb .. media players for video ..and higher and higher bandwidth speeds all needed to view adult content .. with out it we would still be reading naughty stories in dos ... when is the last time you logged on to watch a Coke commercial .. Max creates content that there is a market for .. to a clientele that would rather watch twisted shit than go out and do it .. or lose a marriage over their sick little fantasies ... I have worked with Max ..enjoy his company and albeit he is even more twisted than myself .. He makes 100% all models know what they are in for .. safe words and all .. with out it .. there wouldn't me models lining up to shoot in his productions .. take 5 min away from the keyboard and learn about this industry from both sides of the monitor .....
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                                                                  • The Duck
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                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                    • 18243

                                                                    #133
                                                                    http://www.maxhardcore.com/ <- owned
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                                                                    • The Duck
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                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                      • 18243

                                                                      #134
                                                                      dont forget he was charged with child pornography in 1998 as well.
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                                                                      • Mr. Cool Ice
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                                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                                        • 1289

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                        If a girl has to say she had her first sex at the age of 3, doesn't matter if she agreed or not.
                                                                        I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with that so... whatever.

                                                                        I could care less how old a girl tells me she was when she first had sex. If it bothers you, perhaps you have an issue?
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                                                                        • commonsense
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                                          • 1790

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by kandah
                                                                          dont forget he was charged with child pornography in 1998 as well.
                                                                          NOTHING to do with anything produced with underage performers. Make sure you understand that.


                                                                          The laws were so muddied and unclear that a "depiction" might get you in trouble. Even if the performer was 50 years old, having them dressed in cute clothes might get you popped for CP. Fucking INSANE. No pigtails, the word "teen", lollipops, the term "school" in a movie title.


                                                                          So don't forget the real issue here.

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                                                                          • tony299
                                                                            lurker
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 57021

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by jakethedog
                                                                            yeah hell who knows .. they might drink alcohol and smoke the odd joint ..... you sir are a fucking imbecile ... porn ...twisted fucking creepy nasty shit is what created this here interweb .. media players for video ..and higher and higher bandwidth speeds all needed to view adult content .. with out it we would still be reading naughty stories in dos ... when is the last time you logged on to watch a Coke commercial .. Max creates content that there is a market for .. to a clientele that would rather watch twisted shit than go out and do it .. or lose a marriage over their sick little fantasies ... I have worked with Max ..enjoy his company and albeit he is even more twisted than myself .. He makes 100% all models know what they are in for .. safe words and all .. with out it .. there wouldn't me models lining up to shoot in his productions .. take 5 min away from the keyboard and learn about this industry from both sides of the monitor .....
                                                                            Sorry I have to disagree. If you shoot content for more than 5 mins you have heard the stories. Ive been shooting for 8 yrs.Especially the la horror stories, a girl is new she comes to the shoot. Thinks its one thing and its another. She is told if you don't do this you wont work again. The agent only cares about getting paid,so he tells the girl the I thought you really wanted to be in this business. She doesn't know she can tell them to fuck off she needs money and so it goes.
                                                                            On front line Lizzie borden said she didnt tell the model it would be so rough but she would take her shopping afterwards to make it up to her. So Ray is not being naive.

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                                                                            • pornjudge
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                              • 2214

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                              And...

                                                                              Selling Reality based
                                                                              Incest Videos.
                                                                              Rape.
                                                                              Violence towards women ( thats mildly putting it ).

                                                                              In some cases women were brutally beaten, pissed on, slapped, the list goes on and on when it comes to violent behavior towards women.

                                                                              Some models that shot with Max have considered filing rape charges over the years, some needed medical attention, some suffered severe anal bleeding and many many of them suffer to this day a post traumatic problem from the events in the making of a MaxHardcore Video. All of this is well documented. There is a point where you make a porn film for it's creative merit then there is creating a video of a pure psychotic nature that is severely inhumane. Max Hardcore is a mother fucking fruit cake that fit's Serial killer qualities and mindset.

                                                                              The guy is not a pornographer, unless you consider that just because he got a video camara and filmed what he did to girls is just a free pass to destroy someone in the most inhumane violent ways for the whole world to see at a profit...

                                                                              I am certain many legitamate Video makers in LA are breathing in silent approval from these events and with good reason.
                                                                              Hollywood will probably come out with a movie of Max hardcore

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                                                                              • Penny24Seven
                                                                                So Fucking What
                                                                                • Jun 2007
                                                                                • 6287

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Rape?? LOL are you all that fucking blind??
                                                                                Ok here is 500 bucks, we are going to make love baby, ... ACTION... Max comes running out with a chainsaw in one hand and his cowboy boots in the other. She just takes it in the ass and gets pissed on not knowing anything LOLOLOL, holy shit no wonder the jury found him guilty, you guys know what he does and they didn't.
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                                                                                • TheJimmy
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                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 10747

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by Honez
                                                                                  That's Bryan Y
                                                                                  Bryan's good people... I've known him for years.








                                                                                  Max sounds like he got what was coming to him...
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                                                                                  • L-Pink
                                                                                    working on my tan
                                                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                                                    • 39151

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Right, wrong, consent, no consent, obscene, not obscene, like it, hate it ........

                                                                                    In a court room I sure wouldn't want to try and defend it .....


                                                                                    .

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                                                                                    • natas
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                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                      • 3377

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by kandah
                                                                                      lol

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                                                                                      • Twoface31
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                                                                                        • Sep 2006
                                                                                        • 2746

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        nice work max,

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                                                                                        • The Duck
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                                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                                          • 18243

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by commonsense
                                                                                          NOTHING to do with anything produced with underage performers. Make sure you understand that.


                                                                                          The laws were so muddied and unclear that a "depiction" might get you in trouble. Even if the performer was 50 years old, having them dressed in cute clothes might get you popped for CP. Fucking INSANE. No pigtails, the word "teen", lollipops, the term "school" in a movie title.


                                                                                          So don't forget the real issue here.
                                                                                          I believe she depicted and said she was 12 in the video, so it's a grey area I guess. But thanks for clearing that up.
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                                                                                          • RAM
                                                                                            They're all hookers, but mom!
                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 7047

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Still some of Max's stuff is out there and UP

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                                                                                            • andrej_NDC
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                                                                                              • May 2004
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                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by Mr. Cool Ice
                                                                                              I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with that so... whatever.

                                                                                              I could care less how old a girl tells me she was when she first had sex. If it bothers you, perhaps you have an issue?
                                                                                              If you think this is ok, then YOU have some issues. Come back when you grow up and not live with your mommy anymore. You will look at the world differently.

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                                                                                              • Libertine
                                                                                                sex dwarf
                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                • 17860

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by commonsense
                                                                                                Max Hardcore has been producing for 15 years, maybe more. With that amount of time and dealing with models in sexual production you will have those that feel regret over what they have done for money. It happens in this business, as it would in ANY business. Life if full of regret.

                                                                                                There are those that love to vilify others to justify their own sexual tastes. There are girls that LOVE being fucked hard and rough. Then then are those that don't.

                                                                                                To state that girls in porn movies are RAPED because it might be harder fucking that what you have experienced in your own life or past your tolerance point is idiotic. if you don't want to watch it.... DON'T WATCH IT. It is produced between consenting adults.
                                                                                                It's not about regret. When regret's the only issue, I fully agree that the model will just have to deal with it.

                                                                                                It's not about rough or extreme sex either. There are people shooting much more extreme things that I have no problem with at all.

                                                                                                To me, the problem with Max's content isn't the way the scenes look. The problem is that whenever there's a story going around about a model who totally got destroyed in a scene without any idea of what to expect, there's a good chance that it was a Max Hardcore scene. Whenever there's talk of a model considering filing charges against a porn shooter, again, a good chance it was a Max Hardcore scene.

                                                                                                As a producer, you have a moral obligation to deal responsibly with the people working for you. That means prepping the models well, assessing beforehand whether a model is up to the task, and pausing shooting if there's a strong indication that there's a problem.

                                                                                                There are many extreme BDSM producers with excellent reputations when it comes to this, so the problem isn't the nature of the content.

                                                                                                To anyone looking objectively at the matter, it should be obvious that Max does not take proper steps in prepping and guiding his models.

                                                                                                Originally posted by commonsense
                                                                                                To state that girls in porn movies are RAPED because it might be harder fucking that what you have experienced in your own life or past your tolerance point is idiotic. if you don't want to watch it.... DON'T WATCH IT. It is produced between consenting adults.

                                                                                                ANYTHING physical will have risks (and rewards if done correctly). For those in the fights with Kimbo (your silly analogy that has nothing to do with this), those guys could have been on the opposite end of the stick, and caused harm to Kimbo correct? In your opinion these "delicate flowers" were taken advantage of by mean ol' Max hardcore and used. It's obvious you cannot grasp and accept that there are people in this world with different tastes than yours.

                                                                                                Let ADULTS make their own decisions, unless you enjoy having the government in every facet of your life.
                                                                                                Actually, my analogy has a lot to do with this. It's about not properly informing and preparing actors before the shoot. The fact that an actor is an adult does not absolve the producer from all responsibility for what happens.

                                                                                                As for government interference, I'd much prefer if the industry were to regulate itself better. Unfortunately, it doesn't.
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                                                                                                  • AmeliaG
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                    Sorry I have to disagree. If you shoot content for more than 5 mins you have heard the stories. Ive been shooting for 8 yrs.Especially the la horror stories, a girl is new she comes to the shoot. Thinks its one thing and its another. She is told if you don't do this you wont work again. The agent only cares about getting paid,so he tells the girl the I thought you really wanted to be in this business. She doesn't know she can tell them to fuck off she needs money and so it goes.
                                                                                                    On front line Lizzie borden said she didnt tell the model it would be so rough but she would take her shopping afterwards to make it up to her. So Ray is not being naive.

                                                                                                    When did Lizzie Borden ever work with Max Hardcore? I'm not super familiar with Porn Valley video, but I thought she ran Extreme Associates with Rob Black.

                                                                                                    Also, people are reading what the fines were incorrectly. Max Hardcore the man was fined $7,500 each for 10 counts and his company was fined $75,000 each for 10 counts. That comes to $825,000 not counting attorney bills. XBiz reports the total fines at $1.4 million. AVN reports the recommended range for the fines was between $1.2 and $2.4 million and that the judge went for the lowest possible fines under the statute but also imposed a $5,000 special assessments fine, whatever a special assessment is.
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                                                                                                    • tony299
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                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                                                                      When did Lizzie Borden ever work with Max Hardcore? I'm not super familiar with Porn Valley video, but I thought she ran Extreme Associates with Rob Black.

                                                                                                      Also, people are reading what the fines were incorrectly. Max Hardcore the man was fined $7,500 each for 10 counts and his company was fined $75,000 each for 10 counts. That comes to $825,000 not counting attorney bills. XBiz reports the total fines at $1.4 million. AVN reports the recommended range for the fines was between $1.2 and $2.4 million and that the judge went for the lowest possible fines under the statute but also imposed a $5,000 special assessments fine, whatever a special assessment is.
                                                                                                      I wasnt talking about max I was talking about common operating practices.

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