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  • dirtysouth
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    • Jul 2003
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    #101
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    • kichi
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      • Aug 2007
      • 338

      #102
      Originally posted by marketsmart
      are you sure its not staged?

      anyway, if they are US citizens, they are guilty of accessory before the fact to commit manslaughter...

      people think that just because you are out of your home country, that your country of origin laws dont apply...

      as a US citizen, you can be charged in the US for a crime committed outside of the US..
      can you show me some documentation proving this please? You mean to tell me if i commit a crime in Nicaragua, on their soil, I can come back to the usa and get prosecuted?
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      • DWB
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        • Jul 2003
        • 31779

        #103
        Originally posted by kichi
        can you show me some documentation proving this please? You mean to tell me if i commit a crime in Nicaragua, on their soil, I can come back to the usa and get prosecuted?
        That is correct. If you travel abroad you should know this already.

        However, the USA is not alerted of all crimes Americans commit overseas. Though if they catch wind of it by that country or the US Embassy in that country, you could very well have to deal with the US system upon your return. I've known a few guys to get fucked up this way.

        US law applies to all US citizens where ever they are in the world, in addition to the local laws of the area you are in.

        Again, I'm blown away so many Americans are dumb to this. Do you think you can just leave your country and all bets are off? No wonder so many Americans act like fools abroad.

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        • MediaManiac
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          • Mar 2008
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          #104
          this is sick.. keep us updated about it.



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          • DWB
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            • Jul 2003
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            #105
            You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

            Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.

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            • kichi
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              • Aug 2007
              • 338

              #106
              Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
              You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

              Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.
              I am not disagreeing with you. I just want to see some documentation proving this. I cant seem to find it.
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              • beemk
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                • Jan 2002
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                #107
                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                Because I know one of the girls they tried to shoot. When she refused they slowed down a little and threw her out of the moving van onto the road. All on cam I'm sure.
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                • The Duck
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                  #108
                  Some are just monsters.
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                  • Elli
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                    • Apr 2003
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                    #109
                    Just awful I read this thread yesterday and have been thinking about it a lot. I'm not sure if someone else mentioned it, but I had a terrible thought last night.

                    What if the girl says yes because she knows she's HIV+ but the guy doesn't actually have HIV because it was just a shock/scare value thing?
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                    • DWB
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 31779

                      #110
                      Originally posted by Elli
                      Just awful I read this thread yesterday and have been thinking about it a lot. I'm not sure if someone else mentioned it, but I had a terrible thought last night.

                      What if the girl says yes because she knows she's HIV+ but the guy doesn't actually have HIV because it was just a shock/scare value thing?
                      That's the point. It's a lose / lose no matter what. It's sick to play either side of it like that. Either the girl gets exposed to it, or maybe the male talent does. Who knows?

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                      • Exsillio
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                        • Aug 2006
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                        #111
                        Wow this is sick shit . Hope that they will find him soon.
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                        • JamesK
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                          • Jun 2002
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                          #112
                          Originally posted by Elli
                          Just awful I read this thread yesterday and have been thinking about it a lot. I'm not sure if someone else mentioned it, but I had a terrible thought last night.

                          What if the girl says yes because she knows she's HIV+ but the guy doesn't actually have HIV because it was just a shock/scare value thing?
                          I also heard you can get infected multiple times. So if you already have HIV, you can get reinfected. I'm not sure how bad this could get but it doesn't sound healthy.
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                          • mrxxl
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                            • Jun 2005
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                            #113
                            Fake or real, this is totally sick!

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                            • onlytease
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                              • Sep 2003
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                              #114
                              if this is true then that is really fucked up and they deserve to rot for ever in jail as someones bitch!
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                              • DWB
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                                • Jul 2003
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                                #115
                                Originally posted by JamesK
                                I also heard you can get infected multiple times. So if you already have HIV, you can get reinfected. I'm not sure how bad this could get but it doesn't sound healthy.
                                What happens is you can get multiple strains which means you die faster.

                                Do you remember that guy in New York a few years ago with "Super Aids" and died really fast? That's what happened. He already had one strain of HIV and then picked up another strain and it killed him in like 2 years.

                                There are many strains around the world, they list them by letters.

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                                • AnniKN
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                                  • Feb 2008
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                                  #116
                                  Bump for justice!

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                                  • Indecisive
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                                    • Aug 2005
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                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by kichi
                                    I am not disagreeing with you. I just want to see some documentation proving this. I cant seem to find it.
                                    "As a U.S. citizen or resident alien, your worldwide income generally is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you are living. Also, you are subject to the same income tax filing requirements that apply to U.S. citizens or resident aliens living in the United States."

                                    irs dot gov, Publication 54 (2007), Tax Guide for U.S. Citizens and Resident Aliens Abroad
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                                    • kmanrox
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                                      • Oct 2001
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                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                      You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

                                      Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.
                                      actually its my understanding that you pay taxes on anything over 80k, i could be wrong though
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                                      • RedShoe
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                                        • Feb 2001
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                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                        You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

                                        Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.
                                        Even if you become a citizen of the new country you move to? Can't you become a Sovereign American Citizen?

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                                        • RayBonga
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                                          • Nov 2005
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                          You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

                                          Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.
                                          What happens if you don't pay? They send the army after you?

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                                          • k0nr4d
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                                            • Aug 2006
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                                            #121
                                            so what, US citizens have to pay income tax twice? Once to USA, once to the country they are in?
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                                            • dav3
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                                              • May 2007
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                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Indecisive
                                              "As a U.S. citizen or resident alien, your worldwide income generally is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you are living. Also, you are subject to the same income tax filing requirements that apply to U.S. citizens or resident aliens living in the United States."

                                              irs dot gov, Publication 54 (2007), Tax Guide for U.S. Citizens and Resident Aliens Abroad
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                                              • Jens Van Assterdam
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                                                • Feb 2008
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                                                #123
                                                So whats the deal with the HIV bus now? They are caught?
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                                                • Zango
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                                                  • Oct 2006
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                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                  actually its my understanding that you pay taxes on anything over 80k, i could be wrong though
                                                  That would be the little break he speaks of I think. But you have to file for that status, it's not just given to you. You have to show you are living abroad for X amount of time and earning foreign income. Then I think it's a 82k break.

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                                                  • Zango
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                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                    • 511

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by RayBonga
                                                    What happens if you don't pay? They send the army after you?
                                                    There could come a day when you have to renew your passport...

                                                    Now you get fined $500 if you refuse to put your social security number on your passport application. But it's also up to them to not give it to you if you don't provide it.

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                                                    • Zango
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                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                      • 511

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by RedShoe
                                                      Even if you become a citizen of the new country you move to? Can't you become a Sovereign American Citizen?
                                                      Most countries have a double tax treaty so you don't get totally fucked. For example, if you now live and pay tax in Brazil, you can deduct that amount from what you owe the USA. But you still have to file to the USA and pay if the other deduction is not enough.

                                                      Bottom like for Americans, Uncle Sam owns you.

                                                      The best thing you can do is get very, very creative about how you file.

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                                                      • faxxaff
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                                                        • Dec 2002
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                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Zango
                                                        Most countries have a double tax treaty so you don't get totally fucked. For example, if you now live and pay tax in Brazil, you can deduct that amount from what you owe the USA. But you still have to file to the USA and pay if the other deduction is not enough.

                                                        Bottom like for Americans, Uncle Sam owns you.

                                                        The best thing you can do is get very, very creative about how you file.
                                                        It's pretty easy to get rid off of this tax issue if you live abroad: Give up your US American citizenship. A lot of rich Americans have done this in the past.
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                                                        • Ethersync
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                                                          • Mar 2008
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                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                          You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

                                                          Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.
                                                          It's not quite how you describe it. If you reside overseas you are not taxed on your first $80,000 of income. If you make more than $80,000 while overseas it becomes a bit more complex. You do still have to file tax returns each year, but I believe you are automatically given til October 15th to file for the previous year.
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                                                          • Ethersync
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                                                            • Mar 2008
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                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by faxxaff
                                                            It's pretty easy to get rid off of this tax issue if you live abroad: Give up your US American citizenship. A lot of rich Americans have done this in the past.
                                                            There are other ways that do not require such drastic means. Again, it's only necessary if you make over $80,000 per year and I doubt the majority of the people who frequent this forum do ;)
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                                                            • Ethersync
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                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                                              so what, US citizens have to pay income tax twice? Once to USA, once to the country they are in?
                                                              If you are smart about things you do not have to pay income tax at all to anyone if you make less than $80,000 per year. Legally too.
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                                                              • brassmonkey
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                                                                #131
                                                                damn well theyll have a painful death thats bad
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                                                                • Ethersync
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                                                                  • Mar 2008
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                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by Zango
                                                                  That would be the little break he speaks of I think. But you have to file for that status, it's not just given to you. You have to show you are living abroad for X amount of time and earning foreign income. Then I think it's a 82k break.
                                                                  File for this status? It's very simple to do actually. I have done it myself and have many friends that do it every year. I don't know how it could be easier actually.
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                                                                  • Ethersync
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                                                                    • Mar 2008
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                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                    US law applies to all US citizens where ever they are in the world, in addition to the local laws of the area you are in.
                                                                    US Federal law? State and if so which state?

                                                                    If you steal something in London and flea back to the US you only risk extradition back to Great Britain. You will not be charged with theft in the US for what you stole in London. The US has no jurisdiction in such matters.

                                                                    The only exception I am aware of is if you travel to another country for the sole purpose of having sex with a minor. Then you could possibly face charges in the US. This was passed during the Bush administration so it's fairly new and never has been challenged. I do not think this would stand up if reviewed by the Supreme Court.

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                                                                    • JustDaveXxx
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                                                                      • Feb 2005
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                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by bobby666
                                                                      i really can't belief that, and i still hope the story isn't real
                                                                      That cant be real... They have a lot of rules when they shoot. Their sex scenes are not even aggressive. The owner will fire anybody that crossed the line.


                                                                      I will put money on that is not true. and if it is, its not Bang.


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                                                                      • Agent 488
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                                                                        • Feb 2006
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                                                                        #135
                                                                        i think it's a snuff video made for private collectors.

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                                                                        • Fucksakes
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                                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                                          • 7567

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by JustDaveXxx
                                                                          That cant be real... They have a lot of rules when they shoot. Their sex scenes are not even aggressive. The owner will fire anybody that crossed the line.


                                                                          I will put money on that is not true. and if it is, its not Bang.
                                                                          might want to read the whole thread before commenting

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                                                                          • johnuno11
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                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                            are you sure its not staged?

                                                                            anyway, if they are US citizens, they are guilty of accessory before the fact to commit manslaughter...

                                                                            people think that just because you are out of your home country, that your country of origin laws dont apply...

                                                                            as a US citizen, you can be charged in the US for a crime committed outside of the US..
                                                                            And you will get charged with the laws in that country as well!
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                                                                            • Zango
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                                                                              • Oct 2006
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                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by Ethersync
                                                                              It's not quite how you describe it. If you reside overseas you are not taxed on your first $80,000 of income. If you make more than $80,000 while overseas it becomes a bit more complex. You do still have to file tax returns each year, but I believe you are automatically given til October 15th to file for the previous year.
                                                                              I think what he was saying is the same.

                                                                              Though you have to file for that status and be earning FOREIGN INCOME. That is the trick. You can't just simply live abroad and get the tax break.

                                                                              Though if you earn more than that allowed amount, I think is 82k now, you will be taxed on income above that, and you get the break on the first 82k. But you do have to file in that manner, live and earn foreign income for almost a year to qualify. It's not just a given.

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                                                                              • marketsmart
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                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                • 20419

                                                                                #139
                                                                                the last i lived out of country, a little over a year ago, it was $80k tax free and you had to be outside of the US for 300 or 340 days.. i cant remember....

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                                                                                • DWB
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                                                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by Ethersync
                                                                                  It's not quite how you describe it. If you reside overseas you are not taxed on your first $80,000 of income. If you make more than $80,000 while overseas it becomes a bit more complex. You do still have to file tax returns each year, but I believe you are automatically given til October 15th to file for the previous year.
                                                                                  The foreign income tax exclusion.

                                                                                  We are on the same page.

                                                                                  The limit is now: $85,700

                                                                                  The time you must be abroad: 330 full days during any period of 12 consecutive months

                                                                                  Very easy to do so long as you meet the requirements of the IRS. But I think you know that.

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                                                                                  • Ethersync
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                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by Zango
                                                                                    I think what he was saying is the same.

                                                                                    Though you have to file for that status and be earning FOREIGN INCOME. That is the trick. You can't just simply live abroad and get the tax break.

                                                                                    Though if you earn more than that allowed amount, I think is 82k now, you will be taxed on income above that, and you get the break on the first 82k. But you do have to file in that manner, live and earn foreign income for almost a year to qualify. It's not just a given.
                                                                                    "Foreign Income" is easy to have if you technically are an employee of a foreign company. Where this company gets their income matters not...
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                                                                                    • DWB
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                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by Ethersync
                                                                                      "Foreign Income" is easy to have if you technically are an employee of a foreign company. Where this company gets their income matters not...
                                                                                      Exactly.

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                                                                                      • buzzy
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                                                                                        • May 2007
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                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                                        BangBus film in Thailand?

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                                                                                        • tahiti
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                                                                                          • Oct 2003
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                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                          50 years in thai prison sound appropriate. how low can people go, unbelievable
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                                                                                          • DWB
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                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            UPDATE:

                                                                                            Oddly, these guys have not been seen since this post.

                                                                                            I can only assume it's someone who posts here or is friends of someone who posts here or one of the other boards I posted on.

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                                                                                            • tahiti
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                                                                                              • Oct 2003
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                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                              So there is a crew of fucks who have a van and are shooting in Pattaya, Thailand. They get the girls in the van and explain to them that the Thai male performer has HIV and the scene is non-condom. They can take the job or leave it. If the girls need the money, they film it. If not, they let the girl out and go find another girl.

                                                                                              Listen you fucks... I've already got a bead on you and your van. Lots of info already. I'm going to pull every resource I have to make sure you go down in flames and have no chance of bail when they arrest you. A few Thais have already reported you and I'm on the phone come morning to the head of the Crime Suppression Unit. Your days are numbered.

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                                                                                              • umbralui
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                                                                                                • Oct 2006
                                                                                                • 13755

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                sit and wonder .. but if she has HIV and accept to have sex with one who does not use a condom and that may have can not? these people are not of sound mind .. terrible

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                                                                                                • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                                                                                  so what, US citizens have to pay income tax twice? Once to USA, once to the country they are in?
                                                                                                  not really. there are double taxation treaties with many countries. basically, you have to prove you paid taxes somewhere that has an agreement with the US, or you may have to pay taxes where you are claiming residence and in the US

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                                                                                                  • DWB
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                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                    not really. there are double taxation treaties with many countries. basically, you have to prove you paid taxes somewhere that has an agreement with the US, or you may have to pay taxes where you are claiming residence and in the US
                                                                                                    This is correct. Many countries have tax treaties so you don't get double fucked.

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