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08-04-2016, 08:36 AM

yes i know movie is old i also know it's all obvious to everyone with a bit of brain

but...

i would like to know what honestly those of you in US (Americans) are really thinking about what he says, kinda hard to say he's not right, isn't it? ;)

just for the moment put aside all hate against Russia and it's president and think about what he said and comment pls.

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08-04-2016, 10:39 AM

Prefectly reasonable position, but not for the "sabre rattlers" ....to them: "once red,always pink".

To them its better to climb up ISIS ass then communicate with somebody like Putin... Of course except Donald.
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08-04-2016, 10:43 AM

Just a few sec in, question "There's a new cold war, and you have decided to create that"

My god. The EU created it. Nice objective question, what an asshole.
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08-04-2016, 10:57 AM

Putin is entitled to his opinion. I am entitled to choose what to believe of it. Like I do any political leader.
I choose to ignore RT videos on youtube as propaganda just as I ignore the VOA, Press.tv or the BBC usually.

They are state sponsored and paid for propaganda tools.
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08-04-2016, 11:17 AM

Zionists will drag the west into a war with China and Russia. The west will be annihilated.
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08-04-2016, 12:32 PM

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08-04-2016, 12:49 PM

Putin has delusions that Russia is still a major player in the world, and that Russia should still be treated by other major powers with respect as equals, but those days are long gone and likely will never come back...

Russia's economy is barely in the top 15, less than 1/15th of the US, only slightly higher than Mexico...

2016 GDP:
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1 United States 18,558,130
2 People's Republic of China 11,383,030
3 Japan 4,412,600
4 Germany 3,467,780
5 United Kingdom 2,760,960
6 France 2,464,790
7 India 2,288,720
8 Italy 1,848,690
9 Brazil 1,534,780
10 Canada 1,462,330
11 South Korea 1,321,200
12 Spain 1,242,360
13 Australia 1,200,780
14 Russia 1,132,740
15 Mexico 1,082,430

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08-04-2016, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by woj

Putin has delusions that Russia is still a major player in the world, and that Russia should still be treated by other major powers with respect as equals, but those days are long gone and likely will never come back...

Russia's economy is barely in the top 15, less than 1/15th of the US, only slightly higher than Mexico...

2016 GDP:
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1 United States 18,558,130
2 People's Republic of China 11,383,030
3 Japan 4,412,600
4 Germany 3,467,780
5 United Kingdom 2,760,960
6 France 2,464,790
7 India 2,288,720
8 Italy 1,848,690
9 Brazil 1,534,780
10 Canada 1,462,330
11 South Korea 1,321,200
12 Spain 1,242,360
13 Australia 1,200,780
14 Russia 1,132,740
15 Mexico 1,082,430

Comparisons using PPP are arguably more useful than nominal when assessing a nation's domestic market because PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using international market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income.[2] It is however limited when measuring financial flows between countries.[3] PPP is often used to gauge global poverty thresholds and is used by the United Nations in constructing the human development index.[2] These surveys such as the International Comparison Program include both tradable and non-tradable goods in an attempt to estimate a representative basket of all goods.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_GDP_(PPP)

1 People's Republic of China 20,853,331
— European Union[n 1] 19,205,364
2 United States 18,558,129
3 India 8,642,758
4 Japan 4,901,102
5 Germany 3,934,664
6 Russia 3,684,643
7 Brazil 3,101,247
8 Indonesia 3,010,746
9 United Kingdom 2,756,748
10 France 2,703,378
11 Mexico 2,227,176
12 Italy 2,170,909
13 South Korea 1,848,518

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08-04-2016, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Sarn

Comparisons using PPP are arguably more useful than nominal when assessing a nation's domestic market because PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using international market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income.[2] It is however limited when measuring financial flows between countries.[3] PPP is often used to gauge global poverty thresholds and is used by the United Nations in constructing the human development index.[2] These surveys such as the International Comparison Program include both tradable and non-tradable goods in an attempt to estimate a representative basket of all goods.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_GDP_(PPP)

1 People's Republic of China 20,853,331
— European Union[n 1] 19,205,364
2 United States 18,558,129
3 India 8,642,758
4 Japan 4,901,102
5 Germany 3,934,664
6 Russia 3,684,643
7 Brazil 3,101,247
8 Indonesia 3,010,746
9 United Kingdom 2,756,748
10 France 2,703,378
11 Mexico 2,227,176
12 Italy 2,170,909
13 South Korea 1,848,518

PPP isn't accurate at all when comparing global economic power, influence, etc...

for example in the adult industry... imagine there is one guy making $1000/day.... another guy making $100/day...

which one is the "whale"?

Is it relevant at all that $1000/day guy lives in London and as a result can only afford mid-level standard of living? While the $100/day guy lives in India and lives like a king?

obviously, $1000/day guy is the "whale" and he is the one that everyone treats with respect, wants to do business with, etc... while the $100/day guy doesn't matter, even though he may have higher standard of living...

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08-04-2016, 01:43 PM

In terms of biggest economies in the world PPP is not the more suitable option.

Oops, woj just answered before me.
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08-04-2016, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by woj

PPP isn't accurate at all when comparing global economic power, influence, etc...

for example in the adult industry... imagine there is one guy making $1000/day.... another guy making $100/day...

which one is the "whale"?

Is it relevant at all that $1000/day guy lives in London and as a result can only afford mid-level standard of living? While the $100/day guy lives in India and lives like a king?

obviously, $1000/day guy is the "whale" and he is the one that everyone treats with respect, wants to do business with, etc... while the $100/day guy doesn't matter, even though he may have higher standard of living...

Putin: Russia respects U.S. as world's "only superpower" - CBS News
I agree with it.

Originally posted by mineistaken

In terms of biggest economies in the world PPP is not the more suitable option.

Oops, woj just answered before me.

I think about my own standard of living at first.
and I think that the economy must generate standard of living but not "respect"

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08-04-2016, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Sarn

I think about my own standard of living at first.
and I think that the economy must generate standard of living but not "respect"

Indeed. PPP numbers needs to be mentioned when you think about your living. And non PPP numbers should be mentioned when talking about absolute numbers in terms of "biggest economies". This was the case in this instance.
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08-04-2016, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by woj

Putin has delusions that Russia is still a major player in the world, and that Russia should still be treated by other major powers with respect........

.....Russia's economy is barely in the top 15, less than 1/15th of the US, only slightly higher than Mexico...

Your analogy with GDP is just as stupid as if you would have said that the Mexican army is tougher opponent then Russian one because the Russian GDP is not as high.

In WW2 the Russians kicked ass with their GDP being less then 1/2 of German one. It is not about the GDP who is a superpower, but about kicking ass, and the Russians will always be better at it then anybody else ( except the Japanese) because they can be hungry, but will fight to the death in the next Great Patriotic War the stupid EU and the warmongers in the USA are asking for....

None of you guys get it: A hungry Russian bear is a lot more dangerous then well fed one. So go ahead and start another round of sanctions and make Vladimir's day
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08-05-2016, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by mineistaken

Indeed. PPP numbers needs to be mentioned when you think about your living. And non PPP numbers should be mentioned when talking about absolute numbers in terms of "biggest economies". This was the case in this instance.

why do you need more great the economy if it gives you the average standard of living and a lot of work 24/12/365.
Do not you think that it is not in your interest?
And someone use you inhahis own interests, but instead of give material rewards for you tell stories about the "number 1" and the "great economy"

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08-05-2016, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by Sarn

Comparisons using PPP are arguably more useful than nominal when assessing a nation's domestic market because PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using international market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income.[2] It is however limited when measuring financial flows between countries.[3] PPP is often used to gauge global poverty thresholds and is used by the United Nations in constructing the human development index.[2] These surveys such as the International Comparison Program include both tradable and non-tradable goods in an attempt to estimate a representative basket of all goods.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_GDP_(PPP)

1 People's Republic of China 20,853,331
? European Union[n 1] 19,205,364
2 United States 18,558,129
3 India 8,642,758
4 Japan 4,901,102
5 Germany 3,934,664
6 Russia 3,684,643
7 Brazil 3,101,247
8 Indonesia 3,010,746
9 United Kingdom 2,756,748
10 France 2,703,378
11 Mexico 2,227,176
12 Italy 2,170,909
13 South Korea 1,848,518

Son, diz your not "usual" engrish... So where did copy this from?
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08-05-2016, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by celandina

Your analogy with GDP is just as stupid as if you would have said that the Mexican army is tougher opponent then Russian one because the Russian GDP is not as high.

In WW2 the Russians kicked ass with their GDP being less then 1/2 of German one. It is not about the GDP who is a superpower, but about kicking ass, and the Russians will always be better at it then anybody else ( except the Japanese) because they can be hungry, but will fight to the death in the next Great Patriotic War the stupid EU and the warmongers in the USA are asking for....

None of you guys get it: A hungry Russian bear is a lot more dangerous then well fed one. So go ahead and start another round of sanctions and make Vladimir's day

we have the most powerful army. and if you look at the amount of consumable goods gdp "ppp" is not hungry)

Russia to test unstoppable 'Satan 2' stealth nuke capable of wiping out an ENTIRE NATION
Moscow meda claims terrifying weapon can dodge radar defences and bring destruction to an area the size of 'Texas or France'

Russia is preparing to test-fire a nuclear weapon which is so powerful it could reportedly destroy a whole country in seconds.

This is the most powerful weapon ever tested and its name means "The Tsar of Bombs", although the Russians officially called it AN602.

It was tested on October 30, 1961, and had 10 times the power of all the munitions used in World War II - or roughly 1,500 times the combined power of the Nagasaki and Hiroshima weapons combined.

When it was exploded on an island in the Arctic Sea, the bomb destroyed wooden houses hundreds of miles from the blast and generated a fireball so powerful it could cause third degree burns to a person more than 60 miles away.

Perhaps most worryingly, this appalling weapon could be dropped by a bomber jet, meaning it could have easily been used to wipe out Western cities.

Estimated death toll: 5,758, 910
Russia to test unstoppable 'Satan 2' stealth nuke capable of wiping out an ENTIRE NATION - Mirror Online

PS:I do not understand why need to risk the lives of guys living the life of an average level for provocations against us.

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08-05-2016, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by Horatio Caine

Son, diz your not "usual" engrish... So where did copy this from?

from wikipedia of course.

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08-05-2016, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by Sarn

we have the most powerful army..... It was tested on October 30, 1961
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08-05-2016, 04:38 AM

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08-05-2016, 05:20 AM

Originally posted by Horatio Caine

for war with isis enough that, why pay more?

2 trillion on Iraq, we are not going to spend.

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08-05-2016, 05:35 AM

damn, this thread took an unexpected turn, who would have thought that 20 posts in someone would bring up "nukes"... now we just need CyberSEO to post some propaganda videos of missile launches and this thread will be complete...

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08-05-2016, 05:46 AM

One man's "standing up for national interests" is another man's "invasion". That's all. Just a perfectly harmless misunderstanding.

Druid, don't act like what Putin says is correct. When some sociopath tells you the sky is green, and your eyes tell you it's blue -- do you believe them, or your lying eyes?
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08-05-2016, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by woj

damn, this thread took an unexpected turn, who would have thought that 20 posts in someone would bring up "nukes"... now we just need CyberSEO to post some propaganda videos of missile launches and this thread will be complete...

you just try to ignore it) and it is one of the most serious things.

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08-05-2016, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by bronco67

One man's "standing up for national interests" is another man's "invasion". That's all. Just a perfectly harmless misunderstanding.

Druid, don't act like what Putin says is correct. When some sociopath tells you the sky is green, and your eyes tell you it's blue -- do you believe them, or your lying eyes?

national interests - what they are for the United States?
everyone understands it differently.

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08-05-2016, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Sarn

you just try to ignore it) and it is one of the most serious things.

having nukes is like bringing a grenade to a bar fight... as soon as you use it, you will die yourself too, so completely useless... a knife or a gun ("conventional weapons") are 100x more appropriate...

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08-05-2016, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by Sarn

national interests - what they are for the United States?
everyone understands it differently.

it's the same as it is for everyone else, everyone wants bigger slice of the pie... each country phrases it differently, uses different bullshit reasons, but it really just comes down to that...

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08-05-2016, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by woj

having nukes is like bringing a grenade to a bar fight... as soon as you use it, you will die yourself too, so completely useless... a knife or a gun (conventional weapons) are 100x more appropriate...

but it is enough to sit quietly at the bar and did not fight.
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08-05-2016, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by woj

it's the same as it is for everyone else, everyone wants bigger slice of the pie... each country phrases it differently, uses different bullshit reasons, but it really just comes down to that...

it reduces slice of the pie for you.
and even have a chance to explode the grenade.
then pie be not need

"Is it relevant at all that $1000/day guy lives in London and as a result can only afford mid-level standard of living? While the $100/day guy lives in India and lives like a king?"

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08-05-2016, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Sarn

we have the most powerful army. and if you look at the amount of consumable goods gdp "ppp" is not hungry)

Russia to test unstoppable 'Satan 2' stealth nuke capable of wiping out an ENTIRE NATION
Moscow meda claims terrifying weapon can dodge radar defences and bring destruction to an area the size of 'Texas or France'

Russia is preparing to test-fire a nuclear weapon which is so powerful it could reportedly destroy a whole country in seconds.

This is the most powerful weapon ever tested and its name means "The Tsar of Bombs", although the Russians officially called it AN602.

It was tested on October 30, 1961, and had 10 times the power of all the munitions used in World War II - or roughly 1,500 times the combined power of the Nagasaki and Hiroshima weapons combined.

When it was exploded on an island in the Arctic Sea, the bomb destroyed wooden houses hundreds of miles from the blast and generated a fireball so powerful it could cause third degree burns to a person more than 60 miles away.

Perhaps most worryingly, this appalling weapon could be dropped by a bomber jet, meaning it could have easily been used to wipe out Western cities.

Estimated death toll: 5,758, 910
Russia to test unstoppable 'Satan 2' stealth nuke capable of wiping out an ENTIRE NATION - Mirror Online

PS:I do not understand why need to risk the lives of guys living the life of an average level for provocations against us.

You should stick to Russian forums since you did NOT get my point in English !! Actually I was on your side.....
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08-05-2016, 07:14 AM

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08-05-2016, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by celandina

You should stick to Russian forums since you did NOT get my point in English !! Actually I was on your side.....

I understood you) But not completely agree.
I understand why the US does not want to talk with Putin.
during the WW2 - USA were our allies.
we need a balance on both sides. we even interested in the "war party" in the United States that will "sabre rattlers"

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08-05-2016, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Sarn

for war with isis enough that, why pay more?

2 trillion on Iraq, we are not going to spend.

AS if you have done so much fighting isis. Aren't you piss broke?
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08-05-2016, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Horatio Caine

AS if you have done so much fighting isis. Aren't you piss broke?

much more than you
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08-05-2016, 01:52 PM

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much more than you
"obama must go"

Right Boris. On paper. I was reading some article where they were quoting (making fun) Russian press how Putin gets daily reports about 300 isis command posts been destroyed Bringing the total number of those to like 10,000. Ass kissing dipshits.
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08-05-2016, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by Horatio Caine

Right Boris. On paper. I was reading some article where they were quoting (making fun) Russian press how Putin gets daily reports about 300 isis command posts been destroyed Bringing the total number of those to like 10,000. Ass kissing dipshits.

of course on paper

even not enough time to complete the video

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08-05-2016, 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=Sarn;21084493]of course on paper

even not enough time to complete the video

PS:press alive))[/QUOT]

Oh my God, oh my God, 3 videos of Russian bombs landing and defeating isis. We all know american and every other bombs were fake.

https://www.rt.com/news/344214-russi...sis-militants/

lets make fun of RT once again

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...argetting-isis

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08-05-2016, 11:17 PM

You are correct 90 % is against the "moderate" oposition....Moderate as compared to what? Al Nusra ? What an asinine thing to assume....
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08-06-2016, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by Horatio Caine

Oh my God, oh my God, 3 videos of Russian bombs landing and defeating isis. We all know american and every other bombs were fake.
lets make fun of RT once again

3 video - this is quite enough. they not are opened second Hollywood in syria))
usa to bomb isis?
you to create groups like they
if you want the truth, see the Western media(in my video it photoshop ofcourse )
e.g. CNN

and my more liked west media reportage about road of peace

Anti-Soviet warrior puts his army on the road to peace: The Saudi businessman who recruited mujahedin now uses them for large-scale building projects in Sudan. Robert Fisk met him in Almatig

Anti-Soviet warrior puts his army on the road to peace: The Saudi businessman who recruited mujahedin now uses them for large-scale building projects in Sudan. Robert Fisk met him in Almatig | World | News | The Independent

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08-06-2016, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by celandina

You are correct 90 % is against the "moderate" oposition....Moderate as compared to what? Al Nusra ? What an asinine thing to assume....

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08-06-2016, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Sarn

3 video - this is quite enough. they not are opened second Hollywood in syria))
usa to bomb isis?
you to create groups like they
if you want the truth, see the Western media(in my video it photoshop ofcourse )
e.g. CNN

and my more liked west media reportage about road of peace

Anti-Soviet warrior puts his army on the road to peace: The Saudi businessman who recruited mujahedin now uses them for large-scale building projects in Sudan. Robert Fisk met him in Almatig

Anti-Soviet warrior puts his army on the road to peace: The Saudi businessman who recruited mujahedin now uses them for large-scale building projects in Sudan. Robert Fisk met him in Almatig | World | News | The Independent

Large portion of ISIS fighter are fomer Saddam's loyal fighters trained by non other than..... Russians. Oh, sorry, Soviets
So according to RT you already killed 1/3rd of them, do another fly by and finish off the other 2/3rds . Whats the problem comrade Boris? Out of money or out of lies?
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08-06-2016, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by Sarn

''the mouses crying and pricked but continued to eat a cactus''

What?
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08-06-2016, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Horatio Caine

Large portion of ISIS fighter are fomer Saddam's loyal fighters trained by non other than..... Russians. Oh, sorry, Soviets
So according to RT you already killed 1/3rd of them, do another fly by and finish off the other 2/3rds . Whats the problem comrade Boris? Out of money or out of lies?

Saddam's army was not Islamic radicals, this high-class specialists.
We also said it is not necessary to bomb them.

but you have violated international law and set a precedent disobeyed UN Security Council decisions.

Originally posted by Horatio Caine

What?

Pricking themselves and crying, the mice kept on eating the cactus through.

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08-06-2016, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Sarn

Saddam's army was not Islamic radicals, this high-class specialists.
We also said it is not necessary to bomb them.

but you have violated international law and set a precedent disobeyed UN Security Council decisions.

Pricking themselves and crying, the mice kept on eating the cactus through.

Oh yes, we turned them and 100's of chechen fighters in isis to be radicals. its all our fault.
Is it in your vodka that you blame everyone else for everything? including for your own misery?
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08-06-2016, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Horatio Caine

Large portion of ISIS fighter are fomer Saddam's loyal fighters trained by non other than..... Russians. Oh, sorry, Soviets
So according to RT you already killed 1/3rd of them, do another fly by and finish off the other 2/3rds . Whats the problem comrade Boris? Out of money or out of lies?

Half truth is worse then a lie. In your case a quarter truth.

USA first mistake: Invading Iraq
USA second mistake: Disbanding the Iraqi army and its officer core
USA third mistake: appointing Shia ONLY government
USA fourth mistake: banning the Baath party

Now, if these are all forgiven ( or deemed correct dcissions) then indeed you are correct and you can blame Russians for training the newbies, the older ones ( the senior officer core) were EXCLUSIVELY trained by the USA to squash the Iranians in the 80ties.

They were the best buddies for many years...

So your history is all fucked up.....
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08-07-2016, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by Horatio Caine

Oh yes, we turned them and 100's of chechen fighters in isis to be radicals. its all our fault.
Is it in your vodka that you blame everyone else for everything? including for your own misery?

not only 100. and not only chechen. many Muslims from Russia go to isis.
we to bomb this guys at first, even if they are not only in isis - even if it is "moderate" opposition like osama bin laden. Of course the US hysteria to happens often after we bomb our Osamas.
this is not blame, it is an attempt to persuade you not to bring damage for all in the future.

we helped you in Afghanistan, if you have not noticed.
you have the mania to make harm us - even if hundred Alibaba rape your wife in the street, other will to explode some of your skyscrapers and the Pentagon with 3 thousand people + 4 thousand your soldiers was killed in Afghanistan.

Do you think wat it would be if we started to help after 9.11 Mujahideen with weapon in afghanistan? Or open training center in iran for isis or other and sent their against europe etc.

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08-07-2016, 06:51 AM

Curious what's Russia's long term plan if the price of oil stays low. Sure seems the Saudis have done some serious damage with their lil gamble to reclaim the oil market

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08-07-2016, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by arock10

Curious what's Russia's long term plan if the price of oil stays low. Sure seems the Saudis have done some serious damage with their lil gamble to reclaim the oil market

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08-07-2016, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by celandina

Half truth is worse then a lie. In your case a quarter truth.

USA first mistake: Invading Iraq
USA second mistake: Disbanding the Iraqi army and its officer core
USA third mistake: appointing Shia ONLY government
USA fourth mistake: banning the Baath party

Now, if these are all forgiven ( or deemed correct dcissions) then indeed you are correct and you can blame Russians for training the newbies, the older ones ( the senior officer core) were EXCLUSIVELY trained by the USA to squash the Iranians in the 80ties.

They were the best buddies for many years...

So your history is all fucked up.....

Point me to where I said we didn't fuck up in Iraq? Same thing with Afghanistan.
Its just funny to hear Russian claiming some sort of victory in this with 6 rusty MIGs and no money to strap any bombs to it. They hung there for 5 month, said "we won, we done. mission accomplished". We are all still laughing.
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08-07-2016, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by arock10

Curious what's Russia's long term plan if the price of oil stays low. Sure seems the Saudis have done some serious damage with their lil gamble to reclaim the oil market

Blame US and EU for it. Put more sanctions on its on people. Comfort them with thoughts of how bad it was 1990's and give more glory to Vlads dynasty.
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