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  • eroticsexxx
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2006
    • 3133
    #1

    Server Hosting companies - Comparative quote?

    20 TB bandwidth per month spread across 10 servers (Windows server 2003/2008)

    Minimum specs for each server: Dual Core Processor,
    • 2 GB Memory
    • 1 x 73 GB SCSI Drive
    • Redundant Power
    • 100 Mbps

    Load balancer + firewall (both capable of 1 Gbps sustained bandwidth)

    Present quote: $19,000 per month based on an 18 month contract.

    Also include uptime contract, guaranteed build time, support options, bandwidth overage charges, comparative solutions that have been implemented.

    Other options will be considered if your organization is aware of another way to maximize the potential of this network - "Clustering" for example.
    Last edited by eroticsexxx; 09-22-2008, 10:27 PM.
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    • TidalWave
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2007
      • 2706
      #2
      Uh, wow. $19,000 is so overkill for that, its crazy. You should be under $10,000 ALL inclusive with premium everything, very easily.
      www.SwiftNode.com

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        • TidalWave
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2007
          • 2706
          #3
          What email do you want to be contacted at, btw?

          FYI, so you dont get screwed some place else:

          20TB = about 135Mbps.
          An OK price for this would be around ~$20/Mbps.
          Then the servers are about $300/month each. This is with full server hardware, not desktop hardware.

          Left over is the LB+Firewall and management costs, which will vary depending on your specific needs.
          Last edited by TidalWave; 09-22-2008, 11:12 PM.
          www.SwiftNode.com

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            • DutchTeenCash
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              • Feb 2003
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                • webair
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                  • Feb 2002
                  • 8531
                  #5
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                    • Cyandin
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1723
                      #6
                      eroticsexxx,

                      Email or IM me, and I'll show you just how much better of a deal we can get you than anyone else! We offer first class service, support, speed and reliability, at prices that send the bargain basement hosts running for cover.

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                        • mrkris
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                          • May 2005
                          • 2737
                          #7
                          I've used most of the hosting companies advertising here on GFY and I have switched from them over to http://www.techiemedia.net. Cheap and ultra reliable.

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                            • Rodent
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 1462
                              #8
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                                • marketsmart
                                  HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 20419
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by TidalWave
                                  20TB = about 135Mbps.
                                  An OK price for this would be around ~$20/Mbps.
                                  Then the servers are about $300/month each. This is with full server hardware, not desktop hardware.
                                  are you high on crack right now?

                                  $20 a meg for 100 meg commit?

                                  $300 for that server config?

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                                    • HorseShit
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 17513
                                      #10
                                      Most hosts here will do better than $19k that sounds like Rackspace or NYi prices screw them

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                                        • NETBilling-Andy
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 182
                                          #11
                                          Eroticsexxx - we can put together a package to those exact hardware specs (but billing in Mbps, not GB's, but with PLENTY to cover 20TB's before overage). Full rack for the equipment (so more room for you later), 150Mbps premium blended bandwidth, Load balancer, Firewall, 10 Windows licenses - 2003 standard - (Enterprise Ed would run additional $500/mo), and all equipment to those specs - $4500/mo. Bandwidth overage would be at $13/Mbps over 150Mbps.

                                          And we can certainly have a conversation with our Sales Engineers to find out more what you're doing and get their recommendations on equipment and setup. We can mix Level3 CDN bandwidth in there as well for just $2/Mbps more ($15/Mbps). And this is for our world class hosting operation at CaveCreek. If you're interested, shoot me an email at [email protected] and I'll go over more specifics. Thanks!
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                                            • NETBilling-Andy
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 182
                                              #12
                                              And of course, if anyone else is interested in a similiar deal to that - feel free to hit me up!

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                                                • Cyandin
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2008
                                                  • 1723
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                  are you high on crack right now?

                                                  $20 a meg for 100 meg commit?

                                                  $300 for that server config?
                                                  Agreed, that server config should be less than $175, and we can offer 20TB of top tier (no cogent bandwidth for $only 50/TB.

                                                  Dont' get shafted by these insane prices! :-)

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                                                    • TidalWave
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2007
                                                      • 2706
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Cyandin
                                                      Agreed, that server config should be less than $175, and we can offer 20TB of top tier (no cogent bandwidth for $only 50/TB.

                                                      Dont' get shafted by these insane prices! :-)
                                                      oh yeah? a SAS server for less than $175? i say youre full of bullshit. MAYBE if you also got a big bandwidth commit you would sell it for $175. but not for just the server alone.
                                                      www.SwiftNode.com

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                                                        • DarkJedi
                                                          No Refunds Issued.
                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                          • 28301
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by eroticsexxx
                                                          20 TB bandwidth per month spread across 10 servers (Windows server 2003/2008)
                                                          wow, that's gonna be one hell of a tube site

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                                                            • Cyandin
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2008
                                                              • 1723
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by TidalWave
                                                              What email do you want to be contacted at, btw?

                                                              FYI, so you dont get screwed some place else:

                                                              20TB = about 135Mbps.
                                                              An OK price for this would be around ~$20/Mbps.
                                                              Then the servers are about $300/month each. This is with full server hardware, not desktop hardware.

                                                              Left over is the LB+Firewall and management costs, which will vary depending on your specific needs.
                                                              Originally posted by eroticsexxx
                                                              20 TB bandwidth per month spread across 10 servers (Windows server 2003/2008)

                                                              Minimum specs for each server: Dual Core Processor,
                                                              ? 2 GB Memory
                                                              ? 1 x 73 GB SCSI Drive
                                                              ? Redundant Power
                                                              ? 100 Mbps

                                                              Load balancer + firewall (both capable of 1 Gbps sustained bandwidth)

                                                              Present quote: $19,000 per month based on an 18 month contract.

                                                              Also include uptime contract, guaranteed build time, support options, bandwidth overage charges, comparative solutions that have been implemented.

                                                              Other options will be considered if your organization is aware of another way to maximize the potential of this network - "Clustering" for example.
                                                              Originally posted by TidalWave
                                                              oh yeah? a SAS server for less than $175? i say youre full of bullshit. MAYBE if you also got a big bandwidth commit you would sell it for $175. but not for just the server alone.
                                                              ==
                                                              Minimum specs for each server: Dual Core Processor,
                                                              ? 2 GB Memory
                                                              ? 1 x 73 GB SCSI Drive
                                                              ? Redundant Power
                                                              ? 100 Mbps
                                                              ==

                                                              Face it, this is just not a $300/month server. Additonally, he's only asking for 1x73GB hdd (we know he means SAS, not actual (P)SCSI), not multiple 146 or 300GB's.

                                                              Also, 'Dual-core'. This could be either a Woodcrest or a Conroe, for example. Again, NOT $300/month material. I stand by the fact that this can be a $175/month server, no problem. Sorry if you can't compete with that.

                                                              Also, I don't know who you think you're fooling with $20/mbps prices, because that's just hilarious.

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                                                                • TidalWave
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2007
                                                                  • 2706
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Did I quote him you idiot? I said it should be around there. I was helping him out from his previous quote.

                                                                  When I said around $300, I was thinking about a REAL server, with the latest hardware.

                                                                  Intel Xeon X3350 Quad Core - 12MB Cache, 1333FSB
                                                                  2GB DDR2-667 RAM
                                                                  73GB SAS 15K RPM HDD
                                                                  Adaptec 3405 SAS Hardware Controller
                                                                  1U Supermicro Server with 4 Hot-Swap Bays

                                                                  Not some POS outdated hardware (possibly even desktop hardware) that you are thinking about
                                                                  Last edited by TidalWave; 09-23-2008, 11:38 AM.
                                                                  www.SwiftNode.com

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                                                                    • Klen
                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                      • 32234
                                                                      #18
                                                                      When you pick up hosting company for this,hit me for managment i can beat any price.

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                                                                        • mrkris
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                          • 2737
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by TidalWave
                                                                          Did I quote him you idiot? I said it should be around there. I was helping him out from his previous quote.

                                                                          When I said around $300, I was thinking about a REAL server, with the latest hardware.

                                                                          Intel Xeon X3350 Quad Core - 12MB Cache, 1333FSB
                                                                          2GB DDR2-667 RAM
                                                                          73GB SAS 15K RPM HDD
                                                                          Adaptec 3405 SAS Hardware Controller
                                                                          1U Supermicro Server with 4 Hot-Swap Bays

                                                                          Not some POS outdated hardware (possibly even desktop hardware) that you are thinking about
                                                                          I think you should step back and rethink your slams against people. Your "Real" server is rather pathetic. Your average webmaster will bottleneck the drive and ram before it even utilizes the quad core. You're making yourself, and your company, look pretty bad.

                                                                          TidalWave: Hit me up if you want to learn something
                                                                          Everyone else: Hit me up if you want a great server for cheap.

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                                                                            • Spudstr
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 2321
                                                                              #20
                                                                              20/Mbps for premium blend bandwidth isn't a bad deal. its a good one.

                                                                              now take in consideration for the load balancer and firewall?

                                                                              Quick someone name me a load balancer that can do layer7+ handle 20+ backend nodes that doesn't cost 20k+ per balancer?

                                                                              Same for a HA pair of firewalls that can run 1Gbps worth of firewalling without killing itself?


                                                                              300/box if its including management, SLA and proper load balancing and firewall equipment is a reasonable price.

                                                                              No one wants a open source layer4 load balancer, I'm talking F5/Zeus/Netscaler and netscreen/Cisco ASA type firewall at the minimum.

                                                                              Now if your paying all that money and not getting quality hardware in return i'd be questioning the situation. Ask the company for the firewall/load balancing setup. that will tell you if your getting jerked around on the pricing or not.
                                                                              Managed Hosting - Colocation - Network Services
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                                                                                • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 16502
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by TidalWave
                                                                                  Did I quote him you idiot?
                                                                                  ... Seriously...

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                                                                                    • eroticsexxx
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                      • 3133
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Thanks all.

                                                                                      I'll go through the provided information and make contact tomorrow. Had meetings all day today.

                                                                                      No. It's not for a tube site. I'm expanding a mainstream site/service that currently features two television stations and 6 radio stations on a windows media server 2003 platform.

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                                                                                        • eroticsexxx
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                                          • 3133
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          An idea of what was given on the hardware load balancer and firewall side.

                                                                                          Cisco ASA 5550 Firewall
                                                                                          ? 1000 Mbps Connectivity
                                                                                          ? 1200 Mbps Aggregate and 650,000 Concurrent Connections
                                                                                          ? Stateful packet inspection
                                                                                          ? Fully Managed Device, includes 24x7 Monitoring, Rule Changes and 1 Hour
                                                                                          Replacement Guarantee

                                                                                          $2890 per month

                                                                                          Cisco CSS 11503 Load Balancer
                                                                                          ? 1 Gbps
                                                                                          ? Layer 4 / Layer 7 Load Balancing
                                                                                          ? Supports IP or Cookie-based Persistence
                                                                                          ? Fully Managed, Includes 24x7 Monitoring, Device Configuration and
                                                                                          Updates, and 1-Hour Hardware Replacement Guarantee

                                                                                          $1225 per month

                                                                                          Setup fee for both devices has been waived as part of the proposed 18 month contract.

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                                                                                            • HorseShit
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                              • 17513
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              enter spudstr

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                                                                                                • NETbilling
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 8598
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I will ask Caz from Righthosting to contact you. You will be in very good hand there.

                                                                                                  Thanks, Mitch


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                                                                                                    • facialfreak
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                      • 3018
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I love when host/designers/coders/writers/etc fight each other in public forums ...

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                                                                                                        • Ycaza
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                          • 4290
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I am looking over your specs and think that 19000 is more than 10 times what i would charge you.

                                                                                                          Am I right in thinking 10 windows machines
                                                                                                          1 load balancer
                                                                                                          1 firewall
                                                                                                          and 20 TB of BW (which would translate to between 60-120 Mbps)

                                                                                                          if you email me i will beat that price by at least a factor of 10

                                                                                                          note windows makes easy but bad clusters.

                                                                                                          oh if your max is 150 Mbps 10 machines sounds very much like over kill here

                                                                                                          email me caz at righthosting
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                                                                                                            • Ycaza
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                              • 4290
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Other note, Load balancers capable of a gig are cheap, firewalls capable of a gig ( a full one for real, not some cisco bullshit) are not cheap. something cable of 250 will probably do, but only you could answer this.
                                                                                                              Caz Thrush
                                                                                                              Head Honcho
                                                                                                              [email protected]
                                                                                                              http://thrushtech.com
                                                                                                              ICQ: 304883574
                                                                                                              do people still icq?

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                                                                                                                • HunkyLuke
                                                                                                                  Virgin by request ;)
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                  • 1924
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I can provide you with a NationalNet quote for fully managed, quality dedicated servers including 24x7 support and monitoring, please email me on [email protected]

                                                                                                                  cheers!
                                                                                                                  Luke

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                                                                                                                    • Spudstr
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                      • 2321
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Ycaza
                                                                                                                      Other note, Load balancers capable of a gig are cheap, firewalls capable of a gig ( a full one for real, not some cisco bullshit) are not cheap. something cable of 250 will probably do, but only you could answer this.
                                                                                                                      Please show me a full layer7 load balancer than can do 1gig or more that cost less than 20k a peice. And if you recommend anything other than F5/ZXTM or a Netscaller you are an idiot.
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                                                                                                                        • Khesser
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                                                                                                                          • Aug 2008
                                                                                                                          • 350
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Eroticsexxx

                                                                                                                          email me at my address below, we'd be happy at NationalNet to look this over with you and get you into the right solution at the right price
                                                                                                                          Kevin
                                                                                                                          Director of Sales and Marketing
                                                                                                                          NationalNet

                                                                                                                          email [email protected]
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