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  • AaliyahLove
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    • Apr 2008
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    #51
    Originally posted by AlienQ
    Many a girl has told me that they would enjoy Porn video's more if the guys were better looking and that picking the female talent is just as important as picking the male talent.

    I kinda believe that.

    I have been told that Mr Marcus was hot, Evan Stone was hot there are a couple other guys girls really dig but for the most part it can be said Male talent really needs to upgrade in order to capture the other 50% of the population.
    I never pay attention to the dudes in porn.. just their cocks and ehere the cock is going heheh


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    • JustDaveXxx
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      • Feb 2005
      • 4111

      #52
      Originally posted by Paul Markham
      They're not all bad. However the good ones are busy and expensive. The problem AYC talks about is down to the director not the boy. You don't shoot his face unless it's got a pussy or girls face attached to it, you tell the girl to stop the fake moans and fuck for real with a bit more noise than usual or fuck off home.

      The director is the person responsible for the product, not the actors.

      People who BUY porn.
      Very well said!! If it sux, generally it falls on the director. I generally tell my males and female i need a good 30 minutes. "

      "i can shoot it all in 30 minutes or i will open up a case of 50 one hour tapes. I will shoot all 50 hours to get my 30 minutes of good footage. its up to you. ready action!!"



      That usually gets my point across. Its usually directed to the female, because my guys know that i am for real when it comes to making my product good.


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      • AaliyahLove
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        • Apr 2008
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        #53
        Originally posted by webboy21
        Indeed, personally I dislike the loud part of the male performer (and I dislike it because it's not in my nature to be very vocal during sex....or call a girl slut etc)...yet when a director wants it I try to deliver that too. So that means having to focus both on the sex, giving room to camera and act like a moron because that is what the director wants.

        Oh, and I don't think I'm ugly, but I'm the only judge of that ;)
        post some of ur pics/vids.. I'll be the judge of this..

        ..and I like the dirty talk from the girls and guys but I def dont ever want to see the guys ugly faces.. ever


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        • Jens Van Assterdam
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          • Feb 2008
          • 6677

          #54
          I look good in porn

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          • CurrentlySober
            Too lazy to wipe my ass
            • Aug 2002
            • 38983

            #55
            Originally posted by Jens Van Assterdam
            I look good in porn

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            • webboy21
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              • Nov 2004
              • 573

              #56
              Originally posted by AaliyahLove
              post some of ur pics/vids.. I'll be the judge of this..

              ..and I like the dirty talk from the girls and guys but I def dont ever want to see the guys ugly faces.. ever

              I know what happens to people that post their pics on GFY aaliyah but I gladly send you some if you tell me where...haha
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              • webboy21
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                • Nov 2004
                • 573

                #57
                Originally posted by dig420
                yeah, you might not be ugly, but I'm not gay, and I don't want to hear you or see your face. Sorry

                I just want to see the girl fucking herself with a giant dick. Is that so much to ask??

                fine by me, but as stated here, that is not the male talents choice but that of the director
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                • Jay-Rock
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 2779

                  #58
                  [QUOTE=JustDaveXxx;14709098]I dont know what tools you use, but i will guarantee you could not out perform any of the 10 guys i use. I will put money on that!!!


                  I will book u an a BBG or a BBGG and we will see how you do. I will pay your rate and pay all the talents rate to see if you know what you are talking about when it comes to male talent out in LA.

                  We can all grade how you move and how well you open up and the energy you bring to the scene. Side by side same girls any way you want.
                  Finally if your a director and your shooting the guys face during the scene ur gay!



                  To come here and slam all male talent when you only lived out here for a week is prety lame.

                  Maybe thats why I got the guys that suck you have all the good ones.

                  Its not just LA its everywhere and the good male talent in LA is so booked up I can only get the new guys unless I pay $700 a scene for the top guys. Maybe I just need clients and pay more and dont bitch about costs. I did some anal scenes in LA and hardly profited from it after paying location fees and the girls high rate for anal. On top of the the male took 2 hours extra to pop costing me $200 extra in location time. After the day was done and I told the client I wasnt going to make much on their shoot they told me how we need to lower the cost even more. Maybe I just need new clients that will pay 5k a scene there are tons of client like that right ?? NOT.

                  On top of that this client also said we need new guys not guys that are shot out. I was like hey man you just pay me a day rate and book all this talent yourself. That way if something goes wrong I dont eat money for it.


                  I dont think all LA male talent sucks this is just 90 &#37; of the time I have used them.
                  Last edited by Jay-Rock; 09-08-2008, 12:13 AM.
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                  • Jay-Rock
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                    • Mar 2007
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                    #59
                    This is a good thread to list the male talent that can perform well in LA I sure need to know so I dont get fucked over again. I am new and I will make mistakes. Im only slamming the guys I have worked with. I guess you get what you pay for. BTW Im not for hire as male talent I love pussy but I only shoot with girls I book I would hate to show up to a scene and fuck some random girl. I only book the ones I really want to bang and that haven't been banged out.
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                    • johnuno11
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                      • Nov 2007
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                      #60
                      At least when you do the abercrombie type porn both male and female faces show. I'm a top performer and attractive. But most of you pay for nasty looking men with no talent.
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                      • Jay-Rock
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                        • Mar 2007
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by johnuno11
                        At least when you do the abercrombie type porn both male and female faces show. I'm a top performer and attractive. But most of you pay for nasty looking men with no talent.
                        And you are straight? What is your rate?
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                        • Snap3
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                          • Oct 2006
                          • 808

                          #62
                          I hate when the male actor is gay. U can really see that sometimes and its fucking disgusting.
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                          • webboy21
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                            • Nov 2004
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by AaliyahLove
                            post some of ur pics/vids.. I'll be the judge of this..

                            ..and I like the dirty talk from the girls and guys but I def dont ever want to see the guys ugly faces.. ever
                            still waiting for a way to contact you aaliyah ;)
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                            • Dez
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                              • Mar 2008
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                              #64
                              Lol I fucked them all on camera and off. They loved every minute of it dammit^^
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                              • rowan
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                                • Mar 2002
                                • 17393

                                #65
                                For all you guys complaining about seeing the male's face... you do realise that most scenes end with the male talent jerking himself off? Hel-lo? That's real hetero right there.

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                                • JustDaveXxx
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                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 4111

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Jay-Rock

                                  Maybe thats why I got the guys that suck you have all the good ones.

                                  Its not just LA its everywhere and the good male talent in LA is so booked up I can only get the new guys unless I pay $700 a scene for the top guys. Maybe I just need clients and pay more and dont bitch about costs. I did some anal scenes in LA and hardly profited from it after paying location fees and the girls high rate for anal. On top of the the male took 2 hours extra to pop costing me $200 extra in location time. After the day was done and I told the client I wasnt going to make much on their shoot they told me how we need to lower the cost even more. Maybe I just need new clients that will pay 5k a scene there are tons of client like that right ?? NOT.

                                  On top of that this client also said we need new guys not guys that are shot out. I was like hey man you just pay me a day rate and book all this talent yourself. That way if something goes wrong I dont eat money for it.


                                  I dont think all LA male talent sucks this is just 90 % of the time I have used them.

                                  I kinda know what you are saying and its tough to get good guys. I got a list of guys i use and they know how i work and put out what i want the way i want.

                                  But i pay their rate and never try fucking with it. I tell them that if i find it lowed for another shooter, i will never use that male again.

                                  I get a set rate and i pay, but i also use a steady 12 guys. some are top 5 rated, (when they are in town).

                                  And as for budget, i dont take jobs for less than what i want! People tell me "well i can get it for this" I say "go ahead get it for that and tell Donny Long that i said Hi"



                                  I don't come down on my rate and the minute you do, they will always have you. Then again i work very hard and give every shoot %110 of my time and effort, the quality shows and my clients are happy.


                                  This business is hard and you are only as good as your last project that you turned in. People say my content is good but i try being innovative with curtain projects in hopes that people will love it. But the flip side with shooting things outside of the norm is that you might piss off your client and get fired.

                                  Hope that helps you out a bit.


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                                  • amacontent
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                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 13032

                                    #67
                                    I agree ive made a very comfortable living doing POV showing the chubby guy who has a brain can do well also
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                                    • johnuno11
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                                      • Nov 2007
                                      • 692

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Jay-Rock
                                      And you are straight? What is your rate?
                                      Yes, My rate would only be discussed private. We can work something out,
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                                      • JaneB

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                        Many a girl has told me that they would enjoy Porn video's more if the guys were better looking and that picking the female talent is just as important as picking the male talent.

                                        I kinda believe that.

                                        I have been told that Mr Marcus was hot, Evan Stone was hot there are a couple other guys girls really dig but for the most part it can be said Male talent really needs to upgrade in order to capture the other 50% of the population.

                                        The girls were right. There are not any male porn actors that are good looking. They all just seem to have a big cock. I would rather see a hot guy with a smaller cock then an ugly guy with a big cock.

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                                        • AaliyahLove
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                                          • Apr 2008
                                          • 2722

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by webboy21
                                          I know what happens to people that post their pics on GFY aaliyah but I gladly send you some if you tell me where...haha
                                          [email protected].. but plz write "I heart Aaliyah" on your cock or chest to prove that its you

                                          Ill even send you some pics in return if I like what I see heeheh


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                                          • Paul Markham
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                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 52942

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by webboy21
                                            Indeed, personally I dislike the loud part of the male performer (and I dislike it because it's not in my nature to be very vocal during sex....or call a girl slut etc)...yet when a director wants it I try to deliver that too. So that means having to focus both on the sex, giving room to camera and act like a moron because that is what the director wants.

                                            Oh, and I don't think I'm ugly, but I'm the only judge of that ;)
                                            Sadly some of the directors today are not that good at directing porn. The worse part is not the noise level of the performers, it's the limited vocabulary. Hearing a girl or a guy repeatedly say "Oh God" or Oh Yes" for 10 minutes is off putting. Maybe to be a porn director it would help if he actually knew what real sex was. LOL

                                            Not that real sex would sell.



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                                            • Paul Markham
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                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 52942

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by JustDaveXxx
                                              Very well said!! If it sux, generally it falls on the director. I generally tell my males and female i need a good 30 minutes. "

                                              "i can shoot it all in 30 minutes or i will open up a case of 50 one hour tapes. I will shoot all 50 hours to get my 30 minutes of good footage. its up to you. ready action!!"



                                              That usually gets my point across. Its usually directed to the female, because my guys know that i am for real when it comes to making my product good.
                                              I usually tell them if they want to give me fake porn I will give them fake money. Or we can all go home now. LOL

                                              Seriously, tell them they can all fuck off home if they don't want to do it. For lesbian I like to book more girls than needed, then shoot the stills and if one girl is lame kick her out. Makes the others sit up and take notice.



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                                              • Paul Markham
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                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 52942

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Jay-Rock
                                                Its not just LA its everywhere and the good male talent in LA is so booked up I can only get the new guys unless I pay $700 a scene for the top guys. Maybe I just need clients and pay more and dont bitch about costs. I did some anal scenes in LA and hardly profited from it after paying location fees and the girls high rate for anal. On top of the the male took 2 hours extra to pop costing me $200 extra in location time. After the day was done and I told the client I wasnt going to make much on their shoot they told me how we need to lower the cost even more. Maybe I just need new clients that will pay 5k a scene there are tons of client like that right ?? NOT.

                                                On top of that this client also said we need new guys not guys that are shot out. I was like hey man you just pay me a day rate and book all this talent yourself. That way if something goes wrong I dont eat money for it.


                                                I dont think all LA male talent sucks this is just 90 % of the time I have used them.
                                                You've probably only seen the last ten years, I've seen this for a bit longer. Magazines still pay what they paid 20 years ago and some pay a lot less. Video, and now DVD, producers usually have the mind set that if people are not buying the solution is to cut the costs of the product. Which effects the quality.

                                                It all worked until the bought porn had little to warrant buying over the free porn. Why buy anything if you can get the same quality for free? We have reduced the quality of the product to the level where sites or DVDs are not worth, to the buyer, purchasing. And it's all the fault of the free porn.

                                                Which is why a few sites who did not follow the product cost cutting model, don't need to spend so much on driving traffic.

                                                Not even going to mention the people who think anyone can shoot porn. Even people who don't buy it and don't have a clue why people do buy it what ever the price.



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                                                • Jay-Rock
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                                                  • Mar 2007
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                  You've probably only seen the last ten years, I've seen this for a bit longer. Magazines still pay what they paid 20 years ago and some pay a lot less. Video, and now DVD, producers usually have the mind set that if people are not buying the solution is to cut the costs of the product. Which effects the quality.

                                                  It all worked until the bought porn had little to warrant buying over the free porn. Why buy anything if you can get the same quality for free? We have reduced the quality of the product to the level where sites or DVDs are not worth, to the buyer, purchasing. And it's all the fault of the free porn.

                                                  Which is why a few sites who did not follow the product cost cutting model, don't need to spend so much on driving traffic.

                                                  Not even going to mention the people who think anyone can shoot porn. Even people who don't buy it and don't have a clue why people do buy it what ever the price.


                                                  I have only been shooting for 2 years so I still have alot to learn.
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                                                  • johnuno11
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                                                    • Nov 2007
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Jay-Rock
                                                    I have only been shooting for 2 years so I still have alot to learn.
                                                    If you want a better conversion for your website puresybian.com you need to hire someone to edit an action packed sales commercial streaming porn vid instead of wasting that bandwidth on just a girl masturbating with a machine.

                                                    Just would help explain what your site is all about.

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                                                    • Big Red Machine
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                                                      #76
                                                      It aint easy beenin cheesy

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                                                      • mikeyddddd
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                                                        • SarahLLO
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                                                          • Oct 2007
                                                          • 1168

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Loryn
                                                          *hive five* When I even look at those dudes it kills it. Plus it makes the girl's moans fake, which kills the whole thing. Get someone who can really fuck, not just go through the motions of fucking and keeping his dick hard, and the girl?s reaction is 100 times hotter. Even the guys who are pervy are gross. It's like they are greasy or something. As a woman all I think when I see that is, poor girl has to fuck that guy and I feel sick to my stomach, not horny as hell. Now I am turned off.
                                                          Couldn't have said it better myself.

                                                          As for the guys who keep saying that females will never be interested in porn no matter what the actor looks like... um, no. I've had this conversation with many of my girlfriends; they pretty much all agree if porn featured guys that weren't so disgusting looking, it would be great. But when it's a hot chick and some zitty white-trash looking douchebag, there's no element of fantasy for a straight girl, so why would she watch it?
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                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                            Too old to care
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 52942

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Jay-Rock
                                                            I have only been shooting for 2 years so I still have alot to learn.
                                                            It took me 5 years to learn how to manage models, in a time when it was easier than today. Back in the 70s and 80s there was very little work and if a girl decided to do this to make money she had to do as she was told. There were fewer jobs to be had.

                                                            Today models seem to be able to go from job to job and are able to do as they decide.

                                                            But that does not change the situation of us producers needing to produce what the customer needs and is willing to buy again and again. Letting models dictate the content of a scene is often going to result in a poor scene. Here are a few tips.

                                                            Always do a casting. Unless the girl has to come a very long way and needs some work to warrant make sure you see a girl first to evaluate who she is, what she looks like today and her ability to do what you need. Make sure she knows what she will be doing and how she will be doing it. You're the producer and director. Assume the responsibility. Males also should be seen first, though the pool of able guys are small make sure you see a new one first to see who he is and explain how you work.

                                                            Tell them you don't want "Oh Yes!!" or any other dumb phrase repeated throughout the scene. Tell them it's about them having great sex and that's all they are required to do. They get paid real money to have real sex and enjoy themselves. Evaluate their reactions and make sure they understand it. Done right it will result in a better scene and more money for you and the model. You're in charge not the model.

                                                            When shooting remember it's not about her pussy and his dick, it's about her eagerness to have good sex and reactions to the sex. This is about her face and the way she shows her enjoyment. When she's having an orgasm make sure everyone can see it, if you need to get her pussy in the shot make sure you get her face as well. This might be altered if her pussy does something amazing on orgasm. Few do. She's sharing everything with you and the camera, even if the camera is invisible she is still showing you everything. Because this conveys through your camera to the viewers screen.

                                                            Getting her to play to you is easier than her playing to a remote guy on the other end of the whole process. You're there, she can see you, she knows you and the member is too distant for her to play to him. Even if you're shooting Gonzo and you and the boys are part of the scene it's still about her more than you.

                                                            The big problem are sponsors who only want a few good images and video clips for the tour and not that worries about the meat of the scene. Plus they want everything done for a price that means producing quality porn is hard. A girl will do one hardcore scene well, two at a push if there is a decent rest. Doing three well is impossible. If we all do our job right she should never be able to do three good scenes. Two should leave her finished.

                                                            Sponsors need to select girls and shooters for the scene the members get for their money and not just for how well it converts. They need to allow a producer to have the final say in who they shoot. A good shooter needs to be able to tell a model who will not do it right to go home.

                                                            In a market that prizes titles on a shelf and hits on a site more than it does the product the customer buys it's harder today to produce good porn. Produce enough bad porn long enough and the consumer eventually questions the logic of buying it. Especially when there are places with the same low level of filler content being given away for free.

                                                            None of what I said is easy, that's why those who can do it are a cut above those who can't.

                                                            Not sure if I still can.



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                                                            • JustDaveXxx
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                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 4111

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Jay-Rock
                                                              I have only been shooting for 2 years so I still have alot to learn.
                                                              You will learn what you need to learn living out in LA.


                                                              Put your self around top people that will help your game improve. Thats what i did.


                                                              Hope things work out for you..


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                                                              • gandalfuy
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                                                                • Jun 2005
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                                                                #81
                                                                but they are fucking the hot chicks!
                                                                I'm not back.

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