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  • mikeyddddd
    Viva la vulva!
    • Mar 2003
    • 16557

    #201
    2 hunnert fires


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    • JaneB

      #202
      Originally posted by notoldschool
      Of course neither like porn. But only one party is ruled by Evangelicals who are constantly on the attack. Also Republicans are the only ones to even mention wanting to rid our homes from porn.

      The ONLY important issue is NET NEUTRALITY.

      Mccain = strongly against
      Obama = strongly for

      For you that dont understand that means your cool porn site wont even be available to people because the ISP's will block your shit. End of the internet..get it?

      As for limp dick and all that...lets just say that I have been in the industry longer than you and actually my limp dick has been viewed in more videos than you have ever been in and that limpy has been viewed by millions more than ever watched your shit. FACT

      I only shoot hardcore for my own website. Glad to know that you shoot hardcore video's for millions to see. Sounds like you are the one whoring yourself out, not me. Can you show me any place where Obama said he would be for porn?

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      • HomerSimpson
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        • Sep 2005
        • 13826

        #203
        Originally posted by robfantasy
        what a great speech
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        Obama did a much better speech.....
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          #204

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            #205
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            • Snake Doctor
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              • Mar 2001
              • 13449

              #206
              This message is hidden because the stupid fucking cunt JaneB is on your ignore list.
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              • brassmonkey
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                • Sep 2005
                • 77390

                #207
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                • JaneB

                  #208
                  Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                  Ahh nice to see you are still a cry baby and never did answer the black and Cuban question.
                  Last edited by Guest; 09-05-2008, 04:00 PM.

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                  • uno
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                    • Dec 2002
                    • 18450

                    #209
                    Jane, please never change. You are entirely too funny. It's just too bad its unintentional.
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                    • Drake
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 12508

                      #210
                      Originally posted by pornask
                      The poor kid thinks it's his burden to bear as an American to fight and die in war to promote freedom and security for non-Americans thousands of miles away from his own country of America. It's a noble quest, even with arguably a Christian subtext, yet it should not be America's formal foreign policy stance. It never has been historically. The placards that read "Country First" waved during McCain's convention come to mind. It's so true. It really should come first.
                      Last edited by Drake; 09-05-2008, 04:02 PM.

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                      • JaneB

                        #211
                        Originally posted by uno
                        Jane, please never change. You are entirely too funny. It's just too bad its unintentional.
                        No it is intentional. I can't believe how many people on here are getting so pissed in these threads. I also like the word racist is thrown around on this forum. Pretty crazy.

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                        • notoldschool
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                          • Aug 2007
                          • 5687

                          #212
                          Originally posted by JaneB
                          I only shoot hardcore for my own website. Glad to know that you shoot hardcore video's for millions to see. Sounds like you are the one whoring yourself out, not me. Can you show me any place where Obama said he would be for porn?
                          you missed the point of the whoring statement all together and i only shoot hardcore for my site but its been in the top 5000 since 03. This is an adult board right? We both know that no candidate will come out and say they are for porn, but net neutrality is about porn and every other type of website on the net. You being too dumb to understand what its all about is not my fault.
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                          • directfiesta
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 30186

                            #213
                            Originally posted by Bama
                            but his words did inspire and when he said he wants to stop sending 700 billion/year to countries that don't like us very much that was icing on the cake for me.

                            That's 700 billion to pump into our school systems and lord knows, we certainly need that.
                            So you are going to get free oil to "pump in" the $$$$ in your school system ....

                            Let me know who is going to give you free oil ? Exxon ?

                            If test were required to vote, no more than 5% would qualify.
                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                            • directfiesta
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 30186

                              #214
                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                              My daughter is aboard the USS Ronald Reagon, she tells me that most all the crew is behind McCain, so when you say a ton, do you mean 10 guys weighing 200 lbs each?
                              Maybe she hangs with " her " crowd ...

                              In the 4th quarter of 2007, individuals in the Army, Navy and Air Force made those branches of the armed services the No. 13, No. 18 and No. 21, contributing industries, respectively. War opponent Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, received the most from donors in the military, collecting at least $212,000 from them. Another war opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, was second with about $94,000.


                              http://waronyou.blogspot.com/2008/02...-anti-war.html
                              So it is not as clear cit as you say
                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                              • JaneB

                                #215
                                Originally posted by notoldschool
                                you missed the point of the whoring statement all together and i only shoot hardcore for my site but its been in the top 5000 since 03. This is an adult board right? We both know that no candidate will come out and say they are for porn, but net neutrality is about porn and every other type of website on the net. You being too dumb to understand what its all about is not my fault.

                                No shit neither side will come out and say they are for adult. Just read a good article on AVN http://www.avn.com/internet/articles/31735.html


                                Martin's plan drew criticism from wireless companies, Congressional Republicans, public interest groups and trade associations, who call the proposal a "threat to freedom of speech on the Internet."

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                                • directfiesta
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 30186

                                  #216
                                  Originally posted by JaneB
                                  Can you show me any place where Obama said he would be for porn?
                                  Nobody in politics is declaring to be FOR porn , bimbo .... But some are staunchly against it....
                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                  • JaneB

                                    #217
                                    Originally posted by JaneB
                                    No shit neither side will come out and say they are for adult. Just read a good article on AVN http://www.avn.com/internet/articles/31735.html


                                    Martin's plan drew criticism from wireless companies, Congressional Republicans, public interest groups and trade associations, who call the proposal a "threat to freedom of speech on the Internet."

                                    Well this is a good read http://www.democrats.us/editorial/Es...20030107.shtml and this on too http://www.redding.com/news/2008/may...h-for-ways-to/

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                                    • JaneB

                                      #218
                                      Originally posted by directfiesta
                                      Nobody in politics is declaring to be FOR porn , bimbo .... But some are staunchly against it....
                                      Yeah and plenty are Democrats.

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                                      • notoldschool
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                                        • Aug 2007
                                        • 5687

                                        #219
                                        Originally posted by JaneB
                                        No shit neither side will come out and say they are for adult. Just read a good article on AVN http://www.avn.com/internet/articles/31735.html

                                        Martin's plan drew criticism from wireless companies, Congressional Republicans, public interest groups and trade associations, who call the proposal a "threat to freedom of speech on the Internet."
                                        Its no surprise that Democrats want to fuck with us as well, but its all talk. Mccain and Obama have allready made clear which side of the fence they stand on Net Neutrality.

                                        Mccain wants to end it.
                                        Obama wants to preserve it.

                                        Please go to 4:50...
                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVIg8ZUsNTk

                                        What position do you think this guy will hold in a Mccain administration?
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                                        • tony299
                                          lurker
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021

                                          #220
                                          one is about cp and the other is about taxing porn. See dems want to tax it and rep want to throw us in jail. What is so hard to understand? Do you not know the history of your own industry?

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                                          • JaneB

                                            #221
                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                            one is about cp and the other is about taxing porn. See dems want to tax it and rep want to throw us in jail. What is so hard to understand? Do you not know the history of your own industry?
                                            Think you missed this one http://www.avn.com/internet/articles/31735.html

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                                            • tony299
                                              lurker
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 57021

                                              #222
                                              Originally posted by JaneB
                                              No shit neither side will come out and say they are for adult. Just read a good article on AVN http://www.avn.com/internet/articles/31735.html


                                              Martin's plan drew criticism from wireless companies, Congressional Republicans, public interest groups and trade associations, who call the proposal a "threat to freedom of speech on the Internet."
                                              creating a porn free broadband option is not the same as throwing us in jail. Again learn your history.

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                                              • JaneB

                                                #223
                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                one is about cp and the other is about taxing porn. See dems want to tax it and rep want to throw us in jail. What is so hard to understand? Do you not know the history of your own industry?
                                                Seems like the Democrats think viewing kiddie porn is not that serious. How anyone thinks this guy did not deserve what he got is crazy. http://www.democrats.us/editorial/Es...20030107.shtml

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                                                • JaneB

                                                  #224
                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                  creating a porn free broadband option is not the same as throwing us in jail. Again learn your history.
                                                  Oh get real. The Republicans do not want to throw all of us in jail. That is a bullshit statement even for this website.

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                                                  • tony299
                                                    lurker
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 57021

                                                    #225
                                                    Originally posted by JaneB
                                                    Seems like the Democrats think viewing kiddie porn is not that serious. How anyone thinks this guy did not deserve what he got is crazy. http://www.democrats.us/editorial/Es...20030107.shtml
                                                    Jane you want to have blinders on that your choice but dont be surprised if mcCain wins and the hammer comes down hard. Youre showing opinions and maybe if's when real fucking things have happened during this republican admin and ones prior to it.

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                                                    • tony299
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                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 57021

                                                      #226
                                                      Originally posted by JaneB
                                                      Oh get real. The Republicans do not want to throw all of us in jail. That is a bullshit statement even for this website.
                                                      you dont know your history.

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                                                      • JaneB

                                                        #227
                                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                                        you dont know your history.
                                                        I am going to have to agree to disagree with you.

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                                                        • tony299
                                                          lurker
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 57021

                                                          #228
                                                          Originally posted by JaneB
                                                          you are living in a fantasy world, learn your industries history.

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                                                          • tony299
                                                            lurker
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 57021

                                                            #229
                                                            Originally posted by JaneB
                                                            I am going to have to agree to disagree with you.
                                                            Im telling you facts not my opinion.

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                                                            • JaneB

                                                              #230
                                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                                              Im telling you facts not my opinion.
                                                              Can you please point me to links that support your facts? I have posted some on the Democrats, you post some on the Republicans please.

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                                                              • tony299
                                                                lurker
                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 57021

                                                                #231
                                                                Originally posted by JaneB
                                                                Can you please point me to links that support your facts? I have posted some on the Democrats, you post some on the Republicans please.
                                                                You are not aware of the changes in 2257 done by john Ashcroft? The first 2257 inspections in the history of porn? The attorneys fired by Gonzales in your home state and vegas actually for not going after adult porn?

                                                                http://www.filmreference.com/encyclo...RNOGRAPHY.html
                                                                Nixons response to the report porn isnt harmful
                                                                http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=2759

                                                                This is Harry Reems talking about his going to trial for being in deep throat(complete link on the bottom.
                                                                "I was told by Alan Dershowitz, who is a law professor up at Harvard, that if the republicans were re-elected I’m going to jail but if the democrats get into office I’d be Scott-free. Of course, Dershowitz knows a lot of people in Washington so I got calls from Ramsey Clark, who is a past Attorney General from the ‘60s, during the Kennedy era. I got calls from Eugene McCarthy saying, ‘Harry, don’t worry, if we take the White House we’re letting you go’, because I’d be crying to Dershowitz because I was scared. I mean, I didn’t commit any of those murders. I didn’t steal that money. I didn’t do those things to those people. I didn’t even know it was obscene. It was nothing more than to try to take attention away from his Watergate fiasco."
                                                                http://www.femail.com.au/harry-reems-deep-throat.htm

                                                                http://home.earthlink.net/~durangoda...Censorship.htm
                                                                You can read about Charles Keating and porn
                                                                http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...32743420080903
                                                                Mccain getting a law firm founded by charles keating
                                                                http://www.azcentral.com/news/specia...-chapter7.html
                                                                the keating 5

                                                                Happy Reading
                                                                Last edited by tony286; 09-05-2008, 05:11 PM.

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                                                                • Sausage
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 3012

                                                                  #232
                                                                  Haha this thread is funny.

                                                                  Half of you trying to pretend you didn't decide who you liked/hated 6 months ago. If you like Obama you will hate anything McCain or Palin says or does, and vice versa. Let it go, its not like anyone here is going to change their mind lol
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                                                                  • tony299
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                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 57021

                                                                    #233
                                                                    http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...32743420080903
                                                                    Mccain getting a law firm founded by charles keating

                                                                    I meant getting a contribution from a law firm.

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                                                                    • BVF
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                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 13975

                                                                      #234
                                                                      Originally posted by Bama
                                                                      If you were to poll the black population that voted for Obama on 10 things that he stood for you couldn't get an answer. They voted for him because of his skin color or against Hillary's gender. The majority of people are uninformed and that's terrible. Hell, I don't keep as up to date as I should but I certainly don't wear blinders either.
                                                                      That's ridiculous...If you polled the ENTIRE population and asked them to state 10 things that the politician stood for, you would be hard pressed to find ANYBODY....

                                                                      For example, name 10 relevant things that John Mccain stands for and don't use Google.

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                                                                      • Snake Doctor
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                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                        • 13449

                                                                        #235
                                                                        Originally posted by BVF
                                                                        For example, name 10 relevant things that John Mccain stands for and don't use Google.
                                                                        I promise I did not use the google.

                                                                        1) John McCain stands against the Bush tax cuts because they are skewed towards the wealthy.

                                                                        2) John McCain is for comprehensive immigration reform that includes amnesty for people who are already here.

                                                                        3) John McCain stands against "agents of intolerance" like Jerry Falwell.

                                                                        4) John McCain stands against storing nuclear waste in Yucca Mountain.

                                                                        5) John McCain stands against making Martin Luther King Day a federal holiday.

                                                                        6) John McCain stands FOR the Bush tax cuts and thinks they should be made permanent.

                                                                        7) John McCain stands against comprehensive immigration reform and would not vote for the bill he authored if it were brought up for a vote today.

                                                                        8) John McCain stands with agents of intolerance like Jerry Falwell, actively seeking their support and endorsements.

                                                                        9) John McCain is for storing nuclear waste in Yucca Mountain.

                                                                        10) John McCain stands proud if his record for fighting for recognition of Martin Luther King's birthday in his state.


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                                                                        • Snake Doctor
                                                                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                          • 13449

                                                                          #236
                                                                          Originally posted by Sausage
                                                                          Haha this thread is funny.

                                                                          Half of you trying to pretend you didn't decide who you liked/hated 6 months ago. If you like Obama you will hate anything McCain or Palin says or does, and vice versa. Let it go, its not like anyone here is going to change their mind lol
                                                                          Yep, this is the point I was making earlier.

                                                                          Elections these days are about preaching to the choir and trying to get more of your people to sing....there are no converts to be had.
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                                                                          • Bama
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                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                            • 2727

                                                                            #237
                                                                            Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                            So you are going to get free oil to "pump in" the $$$$ in your school system .... Let me know who is going to give you free oil ? Exxon ?

                                                                            If test were required to vote, no more than 5% would qualify.
                                                                            You're certainly right about "if tests were required to vote most wouldn't qualify" and take a long look in the mirror when trying to figure out who'd fall into the 95% bracket.

                                                                            Are you having trouble understanding that foreign aid and oil are 2 totally different things and one has very little to do with the other?

                                                                            Please put your keyboard down and stop posting (on this or any other public format) until the sky in whatever world you're currently living in turns blue again.

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                                                                            • J. Falcon
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                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                              • 31587

                                                                              #238
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                                                                              • Snake Doctor
                                                                                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                                • 13449

                                                                                #239
                                                                                Originally posted by Bama
                                                                                You're certainly right about "if tests were required to vote most wouldn't qualify" and take a long look in the mirror when trying to figure out who'd fall into the 95% bracket.

                                                                                Are you having trouble understanding that foreign aid and oil are 2 totally different things and one has very little to do with the other?

                                                                                Please put your keyboard down and stop posting (on this or any other public format) until the sky in whatever world you're currently living in turns blue again.

                                                                                Earlier you said "the 700 billion is foreign aid"

                                                                                You do realize that our foreign aid budget is somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 billion per year. (50 billion if you count pentagon "peacekeeping" work as foreign aid)


                                                                                The 700 billion referred to in the T Boone Pickens ads is the amount we spend on imported energy......which is why I said earlier that we wouldn't get 700 billion to put into our schools or anything else if we were energy independent.

                                                                                We would be spending that money with U.S. companies instead of foreign ones, and there's benefits to that of course, but it's not going to improve our schools. Two different things.
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                                                                                • Bama
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                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                  • 2727

                                                                                  #240
                                                                                  Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                                                  Earlier you said "the 700 billion is foreign aid"

                                                                                  You do realize that our foreign aid budget is somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 billion per year. (50 billion if you count pentagon "peacekeeping" work as foreign aid)

                                                                                  The 700 billion referred to in the T Boone Pickens ads is the amount we spend on imported energy......which is why I said earlier that we wouldn't get 700 billion to put into our schools or anything else if we were energy independent.

                                                                                  We would be spending that money with U.S. companies instead of foreign ones, and there's benefits to that of course, but it's not going to improve our schools. Two different things.
                                                                                  You're right, his exact words were "We're going to stop sending 700 billion/year to countries that don't like us very much" and I'm lumping everything into that number and I shouldn't be because it clouds the issue.

                                                                                  But, you bet, I do consider peacekeeping costs as foreign aid. I also include disaster relief, current loans, and past forgiven debt's as well. Any time my dollar goes to a foreign country and neither a good nor service is purchased, it's foreign aid. That is the money I'm talking about pumping into our school systems - unrelated to energy consumption costs.

                                                                                  You're right, the money we spend on energy consumption would benefit the American workers which, indirectly would help create a new tax base for other things, not just schools.

                                                                                  I'm talking oranges and the way I worded it, one could infer I'm talking about apples and I see that now. I'm sitting here wondering why people thought I was talking about energy consumption costs when I wasn't.

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                                                                                  • Snake Doctor
                                                                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                                    • 13449

                                                                                    #241
                                                                                    Originally posted by Bama
                                                                                    You're right, his exact words were "We're going to stop sending 700 billion/year to countries that don't like us very much" and I'm lumping everything into that number and I shouldn't be because it clouds the issue.

                                                                                    But, you bet, I do consider peacekeeping costs as foreign aid. I also include disaster relief, current loans, and past forgiven debt's as well. Any time my dollar goes to a foreign country and neither a good nor service is purchased, it's foreign aid. That is the money I'm talking about pumping into our school systems - unrelated to energy consumption costs.

                                                                                    You're right, the money we spend on energy consumption would benefit the American workers which, indirectly would help create a new tax base for other things, not just schools.

                                                                                    I'm talking oranges and the way I worded it, one could infer I'm talking about apples and I see that now. I'm sitting here wondering why people thought I was talking about energy consumption costs when I wasn't.
                                                                                    Yeah, that's why I asked you if you were speaking metaphorically when you said the 700 billion was foreign aid.

                                                                                    Either way, lucky for us, energy independence is an issue whose time has finally come, so regardless of who wins in November there will be some serious steps taken in that direction.....and honestly the plans of the two candidates aren't that far apart, even though they're still going to try to beat each other over the head about the specifics and claim that only their plan is the truly good one.
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                                                                                    • JaneB

                                                                                      #242
                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                      You are not aware of the changes in 2257 done by john Ashcroft? The first 2257 inspections in the history of porn? The attorneys fired by Gonzales in your home state and vegas actually for not going after adult porn?

                                                                                      http://www.filmreference.com/encyclo...RNOGRAPHY.html
                                                                                      Nixons response to the report porn isnt harmful
                                                                                      http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=2759

                                                                                      This is Harry Reems talking about his going to trial for being in deep throat(complete link on the bottom.
                                                                                      "I was told by Alan Dershowitz, who is a law professor up at Harvard, that if the republicans were re-elected I?m going to jail but if the democrats get into office I?d be Scott-free. Of course, Dershowitz knows a lot of people in Washington so I got calls from Ramsey Clark, who is a past Attorney General from the ?60s, during the Kennedy era. I got calls from Eugene McCarthy saying, ?Harry, don?t worry, if we take the White House we?re letting you go?, because I?d be crying to Dershowitz because I was scared. I mean, I didn?t commit any of those murders. I didn?t steal that money. I didn?t do those things to those people. I didn?t even know it was obscene. It was nothing more than to try to take attention away from his Watergate fiasco."
                                                                                      http://www.femail.com.au/harry-reems-deep-throat.htm

                                                                                      http://home.earthlink.net/~durangoda...Censorship.htm
                                                                                      You can read about Charles Keating and porn
                                                                                      http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...32743420080903
                                                                                      Mccain getting a law firm founded by charles keating
                                                                                      http://www.azcentral.com/news/specia...-chapter7.html
                                                                                      the keating 5

                                                                                      Happy Reading

                                                                                      Yes I know about the 2257 changes. Thanks for the links, I look forward to reading them tomorrow. I am off to bed, long day.

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                                                                                      • Bama
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                                        • 2727

                                                                                        #243
                                                                                        Obama?s $845 billion U.N. plan forwarded to U.S. Senate floor
                                                                                        ?Global Poverty Act? to cost each citizen $2,500 or more.

                                                                                        Posted: July 25, 2008
                                                                                        12:30 am Eastern

                                                                                        By Bob Unruh
                                                                                        © 2008 WorldNetDaily

                                                                                        The U.S. Senate soon could debate whether you, your spouse and each of your children ? as well as your in-laws, parents, grandparents, neighbors and everyone else in America ? each will spend $2,500 or more to reduce poverty around the world.

                                                                                        The plan sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, is estimated to cost the U.S. some $845 billion over the coming few years in an effort to raise the standard of living around the globe.

                                                                                        S.2433 already has been approved in one form by the U.S. House of Representatives and now has been placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar for pending debate.

                                                                                        WND previously reported the proposal demands the president develop ?and implement? a policy to ?cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief? and other programs.

                                                                                        Cliff Kincaid at Accuracy in Media has published a critique asserting that while the Global Poverty Act sounds nice, the adoption could ?result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States? and would make levels of U.S. foreign aid spending ?subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.?

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                                                                                        He said the legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which over 13 years, he said, would amount to $845 billion ?over and above what the U.S. already spends.?
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                                                                                        • tony299
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                                                                                          #244
                                                                                          do you have any real news sources that have reported on it?

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                                                                                          • Bama
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                                                                                            #245
                                                                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                            do you have any real news sources that have reported on it?


                                                                                            http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=s110-2433

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                                                                                            • tony299
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                                                                                              #246
                                                                                              thank you and it seems it never got out of committee.

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                                                                                              • tony299
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                                                                                                http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...3&tab=analysis

                                                                                                Jul 7, 2008 4:07 PM - CBO says this bill would cost less than $1mm/year to implement and there is no adverse effect to state, local gov'ts. Right wing blogs claim it will cost taxpayers $845 billion between now and 2015. What is the truth? - Read Answers
                                                                                                Answered by a visitor on Jul 16, 2008 7:55 PM - This is to fund the United Nations Millennium plan for global poverty. Our share would be .7% of our Gross National Product. This is where the $845 billion price tag comes from.
                                                                                                Answered by a visitor on Aug 30, 2008 1:59 PM - The 0.7% of our $13.8 Trillion GDP is $96.6 billion. This 0.7% number was established by members of the UN (including the US) 35 years ago and has been reaffirmed many times. In 2002 George Bush was at the Global Financing for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico where he and other world leaders AGAIN reaffirmed this commitment to the UN. Yet the US still pays $65 billion less than our agreed commitment to the UN EACH YEAR. At that conference President Bush stated that reducing global poverty will reduce terrorism. No one disputes that, so it is unclear why he and our congress have restricted these funds to the UN. This bipatisan Obama-Lugar bill simply asks the Senate to acknowlege our commitment and enable the government to honor that commitment. If for no other reason, because (as President Bush pointed out in Monterey), reducing world poverty is one of our most valuable weapons against terrorism worldwide. The House version was passed last year. It is unclear why the Republican majority in the Senate has not voted on this bill.
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                                                                                                • Bama
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                                                                                                  #248
                                                                                                  http://www.youtube.com/v/K5zy5Y4Jl8A

                                                                                                  Watch this (no audio) and look at those tax proposals he has in store for you!
                                                                                                  This source is from the Wall Street Journal

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                                                                                                  • tony299
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                                                                                                    #249
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Bama
                                                                                                    http://www.youtube.com/v/K5zy5Y4Jl8A

                                                                                                    Watch this (no audio) and look at those tax proposals he has in store for you!
                                                                                                    This source is from the Wall Street Journal
                                                                                                    I dont make over 250K and who ever is president taxes are going up. You cant have a war and cut taxes. We might be going into iran, cant use the chinese credit card forever.

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                                                                                                    • Bama
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                                                                                                      #250
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Bama
                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/v/K5zy5Y4Jl8A

                                                                                                      Watch this (no audio) and look at those tax proposals he has in store for you!
                                                                                                      This source is from the Wall Street Journal
                                                                                                      Get a 5% pay raise - Obama will take it from you
                                                                                                      Sell your house, Obama will take the profits from you
                                                                                                      Invest in the market with what little money you have, Obama takes the profits from you
                                                                                                      Die - and Obama takes over half of what you're leaving to your family...

                                                                                                      Wrap all that money with a red ribbon - and ship it overseas!

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