British Historian: Soviet Union could have won WWII alone but at a much slower pace

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  • wehateporn
    Promoting Debate on GFY
    • Apr 2007
    • 27176

    #1

    British Historian: Soviet Union could have won WWII alone but at a much slower pace

  • AdultKing
    Raise Your Weapon
    • Jun 2003
    • 15601

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    • rogueteens
      So fucking bland
      • Jul 2006
      • 8005

      #3
      cannot be bothered to watch but does he take into account the Germans bad timing? if they had attacked and consolidated during the good weather AND the Germans didn't have two fronts to man then I'm pretty sure that the result could have been very different.
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      • klinton
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2003
        • 8766

        #4

        Originally posted by AdultKing

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        • Rochard
          Jägermeister Test Pilot
          • Dec 2001
          • 75733

          #5
          This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

          The Nazi military was on a roll, plowed through Poland and was heading towards Moscow. You could argue that without a second front or the potential of a second front, they might have even taken Moscow - they came close. Without the threat of a second front with the US / UK attacking from the west, Germany could have freed up millions of troops. However, at a certain point you have to understand the then Soviet Union was massive, had a large industrial base, lots of territory, and nearly unlimited manpower. Nazi Germany just didn't physically have the manpower to occupy the Soviet Union; It was just too large.

          The Soviet Union could have beat back Germany all on it's own, but it would have taken a long time and the cost would have been great. No one suffered more during World War Two than the Soviet Union, and they would have paid a lot a more.
          Herschel Savage
          Brooklyn, NY

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          • pimpmaster9000
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2011
            • 26730

            #6
            russia would have taken japan after taking berlin its the #1 reason the USA nuked jap fishermen 2x so as to claim that they won WW2
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            • just a punk
              So fuckin' bored
              • Jun 2003
              • 32385

              #7
              Originally posted by wehateporn
              British Historian: Soviet Union could have won WWII alone but at a much slower pace
              Is it was a secret for someone?
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              • dyna mo
                just a fucking jerk
                • Dec 2008
                • 68184

                #8
                Originally posted by wehateporn
                a stupid question posed to a stupid historian. it's a completely backwards view and reasoning. germany attacked both the west and the east. it's not like the west couldn't have participated. that historian is talking out of his ass making comments like that. if nazis didn't have a western front then the situation would have been vastly different on the eastern front.

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                • crockett
                  in a van by the river
                  • May 2003
                  • 76818

                  #9
                  You have to be kidding me.. The Russians were bombed into rubble. The Germans had land and air dominance. The only reason the Russians survived, was because Hitler was forced to send the majority of the luftwaffle to North Africa because the US and Brits were taking away the oil resources Hitler needed.

                  With out the US and Brits in Africa, the Germans would of finished off the rest of Russia. After the Germans had no air cover they became sitting ducks.

                  This is one of the reasons the US is so involved in the MI. Not just for the money from oil, but to cock block the next Hitler from having oil resources to do world wide warfare.

                  Like it or not, our rag tag control of the MI has stopped WW3 and beyond from happening.
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                  • klinton
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8766

                    #10
                    agree. without western front Nazis would take Moscow in few weeks and make slaves of Russian Slavs !
                    or worse
                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                    if nazis didn't have a western front then the situation would have been vastly different on the eastern front.

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                    • ZiggiZiggiCrew
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 3175

                      #11
                      Do not forgot Mongolian support for Russians! Soviet Union got 500.000 horses, 300 kg gold and 100.000$ from Mongolia

                      And why you speak about Germany only? Against Soviet Union Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Italy, Finland officially were at war. And millions of volunteers from all Europe. For example, against the Soviet Union about 100.000 French were at war

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