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Old 05-17-2016, 12:57 PM  
EonBlue
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There are less trees and green plants than there used to be. Deforestation has slowed down the earth ability to absorb all that CO2.
Deforestation is the problem. Not CO2. Stop cutting down forests to plant crops to be used as biofuels to reduce CO2.

I can't understand how a supposedly intelligent guy like yourself does not see the lunacy inherent in some of the positions you support.

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Next, we are putting more CO2 into the air faster than it has ever been done before, naturally.
Not true at all.

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We know this is a fact because we can measure the amount of CO2 and other greenhouse gasses. We know they rise high into the atmosphere, and we know they reflect heat. We can see the evidence of this by the rising average temperature of the earth.
CO2 does not have an infinite capacity to absorb and re-emit radiation. It has already maxed out the amount it can absorb. Adding more to the atmosphere will have zero effect.


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The earth has been alive and well for a long time, but that's not the point. The point is to make our time on this planet as healthy and beautiful as it can be, and that we leave it this way for our kids and grand kids.

This idea should not be so hard to grasp or hard to do. All it takes is a minor shift in the way we use energy, thats all.
Yes lets leave them with destroyed economies, unreliable and unnafordable energy and no chance for a financially secure and stable future because we destroyed all of that trying to get rid of a harmless trace gas.

Makes sense.


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The ocean is a whole other can of worms. The oceans have become much more acidic over the past 100 years or so thanks to increased CO2. The extra CO2 is not just warming the planet, its killing the oceans. And the warming of the oceans, while related, is a whole other problem.

What a mess.
The oceans are not acidic they are alkaline. A slight decrease in alkalinity does not make them acidic. And no CO2 is not killing the oceans. And if the oceans are warming as much as you say then they will be out-gassing CO2 and not absorbing it. In fact the oceans may very well the source of much of the "excess" CO2 you worry about since it has been proven then rising CO2 follows rising temperatures, not the other way around.


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Same to you.
I have studied geology and climate - in university. And I've been closely following both sides of this debate since then - not just one side like yourself.


Anyways, I am done with this topic with you. It's a waste of time and I don't have time to waste. You can get the last word in if you like but I'm certain it will just be more of the same.

This thread was supposed to be about the suicidal economic policy on Ontario based on bad science and not the bad science itself.



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