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News Google is blocking Flash on Chrome - Only 10 Websites Exempt

05-16-2016, 03:30 AM

The slow and inexorable slide to a world without Flash continues, with Google revealing plans to phase out support for Adobe's Flash Player in its Chrome browser for all but a handful of websites. And the company expects the changes to roll out by the fourth quarter of 2016.

While it says Flash might have "historically" been a good way to present rich media online, Google is now much more partial to HTML5, thanks to faster load times and lower power use.

As a result, Flash will still come bundled with Chrome, but "its presence will not be advertised by default." Where the Flash Player is the only option for viewing content on a site, users will need to actively switch it on for individual sites. Enterprise Chrome users will also have the option of switching Flash off altogether.

Google to block Flash on Chrome, only 10 websites exempt - CNET

and there are still big adult sites that refuse to let Flash go, unbelievable.

If you still rely on Flash move to a HTML5 video player, there are plenty of great ones and you're not putting users at risk because of your technical incompetence/laziness.

To the programs still proving FLV videos ......
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05-16-2016, 03:55 AM

Yep still a lot of big tube sites are flash only, and also i think also all cam sites streaming in flash only
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05-16-2016, 03:59 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

Yep still a lot of big tube sites are flash only, and also i think also all cam sites streaming in flash only

I wouldn't be surprised to see Google stop indexing pages that rely on Flash, especially if the current spate of nasty Flash security flaws keep being found.
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05-16-2016, 04:14 AM

Yep, Google has the power to fire me and end my career as a Flash programmer.

Of course same thing happened with PERL; but it was the client's choice and not the choice of some big corporation.
Reduce PERL programming was market driven.

This is just a mandate on Flash.

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05-16-2016, 04:17 AM

This really sucks for camsites, because even though we can stream to the customer with html5, it's pretty normal and might even be necessary to use flash to stream from the model to the server. At least Firefox is being less of a bitch, for now.

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05-16-2016, 04:28 AM

Originally posted by iSpyCams

This really sucks for camsites, because even though we can stream to the customer with html5, it's pretty normal and might even be necessary to use flash to stream from the model to the server. At least Firefox is being less of a bitch, for now.

If flash is needed for model to server, and server to user can stream in html5 , then it sounds like you dont have problem, as this only affect users. Unless it must be flash in all directions (model->server->user)
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05-16-2016, 04:29 AM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Yep, Google has the power to fire me and end my career as a Flash programmer.

Of course same thing happened with PERL; but it was the client's choice and not the choice of some big corporation.
Reduce PERL programming was market driven.

This is just a mandate on Flash.

Start making HTML5 games and problem solved :D
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05-16-2016, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by iSpyCams

This really sucks for camsites, because even though we can stream to the customer with html5, it's pretty normal and might even be necessary to use flash to stream from the model to the server. At least Firefox is being less of a bitch, for now.

Bottom line is that HTML5 is not all it's been sold to be.
It doesn't work on all devices as some people claim.
HTML5 video stutters and fails more often than flash and html5 players crash all the time.
The youtube player crashes often and I have to reload the page.

I dug into html5 as soon as I heard it was available and many things that were easy in flash were nearly impossible with html5.

Animation in html5 is impossible for a non-programmer but anyone can do simple animation in flash.
Flash is still the best for visual artist that want to animate their work.

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05-16-2016, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

Start making HTML5 games and problem solved :D

Yeah, that's why every game site I was on collapsed; they couldn't wait for everyone
to learn this impossible shit to make a game in.

Flash gives each object an individual timeline and this makes programming sophisticated
games much easier.
Flash also allows this to be done with a significant recursive depth.

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05-16-2016, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

Start making HTML5 games and problem solved :D

Read this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochi_Media

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05-16-2016, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Read this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochi_Media

I know for mochimedia, i wanted to promote their affiliate program as they were quite interesting program, too bad they went defunct.
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05-16-2016, 06:32 AM

Yes that is problem with HTML 5, it is not powerful as flash/shockwawe but fact is how it works on every browser and every platform regardless is it desktop or mobile is not something what you can ignore.
Plus one day it will be powerful as flash.

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Yeah, that's why every game site I was on collapsed; they couldn't wait for everyone
to learn this impossible shit to make a game in.

Flash gives each object an individual timeline and this makes programming sophisticated
games much easier.
Flash also allows this to be done with a significant recursive depth.
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05-16-2016, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

Yes that is problem with HTML 5, it is not powerful as flash/shockwawe but fact is how it works on every browser and every platform regardless is it desktop or mobile is not something what you can ignore.
Plus one day it will be powerful as flash.

We should have waited until that day arrived because what you claim is pure conjecture.

Flash worked on every platform until some now dead important dude couldn't make his phone work.

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05-16-2016, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

We should have waited until that day arrived because what you claim is pure conjecture.

Flash worked on every platform until some now dead important dude couldn't make his phone work.

You think HTML5 will never be powerful as flash? Bump this thread after 20 years and let's see then
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05-16-2016, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

You think HTML5 will never be powerful as flash? Bump this thread after 20 years and let's see then

I did not say that.
I said that you are claiming it will be as powerful without any inside knowledge or even the ability to program in it.
That's "conjecture".

Especially since the power you speak will most likely only work in html8.

Let's just hope the internet still exist in 20 years.

Disclaimer : I used "8" in html8 because my keyboard does not have the infinity symbol.

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05-16-2016, 09:20 AM

If you want to do C2C in private shows you need to use Flash or WebRTC for 2 way cam and voice.

Streaming recorded video in MPEG-DASH EME (Encrypted Media Extentions) is not a real issue.

However, I am not so sure that these newer protocols will never be exploited like Flash has been
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05-16-2016, 09:56 AM

Maybe, but you still blame everyone else for demise of flash but not those in charge -
adobe.

Originally posted by blackmonsters

I did not say that.
I said that you are claiming it will be as powerful without any inside knowledge or even the ability to program in it.
That's "conjecture".

Especially since the power you speak will most likely only work in html8.

Let's just hope the internet still exist in 20 years.

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05-16-2016, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

Maybe, but you still blame everyone else for demise of flash but not those in charge -
adobe.

If internet explorer and Windows were killed off because of exploits then you would have a point.

If MySQL was killed off because of "injections" then you would have a point.

If SSH had been killed off when it was exploited then you would have a point.

If javascript was killed off because of cross-site scripting then you would have a point.

If ActiveX was killed off because of exploits then you would have a point.

The only point you have is that you hate Flash.
Your technical arguments about it don't match up to the reality.

Flash hacks just started really; the rest of the list has been hacked for 20 years already.

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05-16-2016, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

If internet explorer and Windows were killed off because of exploits then you would have a point.

If MySQL was killed off because of "injections" then you would have a point.

If SSH had been killed off when it was exploited then you would have a point.

If javascript was killed off because of cross-site scripting then you would have a point.

If ActiveX was killed off because of exploits then you would have a point.

The only point you have is that you hate Flash.
Your technical arguments about it don't match up to the reality.

Flash hacks just started really; the rest of the list has been hacked for 20 years already.

Flash is not bad just of security problems , it is bad also due:

1. bothering user to update almost on daily bases
2. ignoring browser network setting and running in container
3. need to have installed plugin in browser to make it work

Also, none of those 4 things which you listed are so widely used as flash - flash is basically a must have if you wanted to see things like youtube videos(not needed anymore but it was till recently), while you dont need any of those of 4 things to see videos.
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05-16-2016, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

If flash is needed for model to server, and server to user can stream in html5 , then it sounds like you dont have problem, as this only affect users. Unless it must be flash in all directions (model->server->user)

The models still need a browser, unless they use FMLE, which most are not bright enough to figure out reliably. I realize they can use a different browser than Chrome, but if others follow suit it will be difficult.

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05-17-2016, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by iSpyCams

The models still need a browser, unless they use FMLE, which most are not bright enough to figure out reliably. I realize they can use a different browser than Chrome, but if others follow suit it will be difficult.

So basically it all depend on model and what browser she uses?
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