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  • sperbonzo
    I'd rather be on my boat.
    • May 2003
    • 9750

    #1

    Democrats want to tax porn sites 25%!!!!

    We may want to pay attention to this... not everyone in this business can just move offshore....


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in712364.shtml




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  • Owner
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    • Nov 2006
    • 905

    #2
    July 27, 2005




    theyve been trying to pass this stuff forever.. it will never happen

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    • Libertine
      sex dwarf
      • May 2002
      • 17860

      #3


      Someone please photoshop a cock into that senator's mouth.
      /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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      • sperbonzo
        I'd rather be on my boat.
        • May 2003
        • 9750

        #4
        Originally posted by Owner
        July 27, 2005




        theyve been trying to pass this stuff forever.. it will never happen


        Just making a point here...




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        • MakingItPay
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          • Feb 2005
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          #5
          Porn isn't safe from these guys no matter who is in charge. Hell didn't COPA start on Clinton's watch?
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          • Robbie
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            • Aug 2002
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            #6
            I think that sometimes you get "reverse" legislation. It's like the dems have to prove they are "tough" so they try shit like that. Or the republicans try to prove they aren't "nazis" in people's lives so they don't do shit like that.

            Pretty much....they all suck. I wish a libertarian had a real shot.
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            • MakingItPay
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              • Feb 2005
              • 1922

              #7
              Originally posted by Robbie
              I think that sometimes you get "reverse" legislation. It's like the dems have to prove they are "tough" so they try shit like that. Or the republicans try to prove they aren't "nazis" in people's lives so they don't do shit like that.

              Pretty much....they all suck. I wish a libertarian had a real shot.
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              • Hazlewood
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                • Sep 2006
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                #8
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                • pigman
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                  • Aug 2006
                  • 760

                  #9
                  Here we have 25% on everything!
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                  • EonBlue
                    Apocalypse
                    • May 2007
                    • 3043

                    #10
                    But I thought only Republicans were bad for the porn industry.

                    I wonder how they would try to enforce this outside of the US.

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                    • candyflip
                      Carpe Visio
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 43073

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Robbie
                      Pretty much....they all suck. I wish a libertarian had a real shot.
                      Even if it doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning, Bob Barr is getting my vote.

                      Spend you some brain.
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                      • tony299
                        lurker
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 57021

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EonBlue
                        But I thought only Republicans were bad for the porn industry.

                        I wonder how they would try to enforce this outside of the US.
                        A tax isnt bad, throwing you in jail is bad. A tax makes us 100% legitimate without question. It takes all the grey away. For all my industry brothers who cry libertarian. That would be worse than any feds because the choice on porn being illegal or not would go back to the states.It would be a nightmare.

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                        • EonBlue
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                          • May 2007
                          • 3043

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tony404
                          A tax isnt bad, throwing you in jail is bad. A tax makes us 100% legitimate without question. It takes all the grey away. For all my industry brothers who cry libertarian. That would be worse than any feds because the choice on porn being illegal or not would go back to the states.It would be a nightmare.
                          A tax is bad. Especially one as punitive as 25%.

                          Besides that it's not just the tax being discussed it is also the mandatory age verification system. Imagine the expense to implement that. And how do they plan to make that fly outside of the US?

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                          • tony299
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 57021

                            #14
                            Originally posted by EonBlue
                            A tax is bad. Especially one as punitive as 25%.

                            Besides that it's not the tax being discussed it is also the mandatory age verification system. Imagine the expense to implement that. And how do they plan to make that fly outside of the US?
                            A tax isnt bad, casinos pay gaming taxes, your local liquor store pays a liquor tax. No a tax makes you legitimate and you cant be fucked with. As far as Age verification if it cuts down free porn I dont think that's a bad thing. But once again they arent talking about throwing us in jail like the republicans want.

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                            • MakingItPay
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                              • Feb 2005
                              • 1922

                              #15
                              A punitive tax on one form of speech would be unconstitutional. However, that does not mean it won't happen. And I agree that a tax is bad. We already pay the same taxes as any other business.
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                              • AtlantisCash
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                                • Dec 2005
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                                #16
                                All Politic Ass Holes Who are keep dealing to limit internet should be force to ride on a spaceRocket and throw him on the Space without coming back to Our planet.

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                                • tony299
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                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 57021

                                  #17
                                  The problem is Sperbonzo, your business services the adult industry but you really dont work in adult. They aren't going to come and knock on your door looking for your 2257 or if someone decides what you shoot is obscene. There is a reason all the icons of the porn business are democrats.

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                                  • Barefootsies
                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 42635

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Owner
                                    July 27, 2005




                                    theyve been trying to pass this stuff forever.. it will never happen
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                                    • stevo
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                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 2051

                                      #19
                                      Federal Income Taxes + State Taxes + Self Employment Taxes + Porn Taxes

                                      They're basically just going to tax us until its no longer profitable. Easiest way to kill the porn industry.

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                                      • EonBlue
                                        Apocalypse
                                        • May 2007
                                        • 3043

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                        A tax isnt bad, casinos pay gaming taxes, your local liquor store pays a liquor tax. No a tax makes you legitimate and you cant be fucked with. As far as Age verification if it cuts down free porn I dont think that's a bad thing. But once again they arent talking about throwing us in jail like the republicans want.
                                        My guess is that if the exact same propositions were made by a Republican you would be screaming bloody murder.

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                                        • tony299
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by EonBlue
                                          My guess is that if the exact same propositions were made by a Republican you would be screaming bloody murder.
                                          actually no sorry, cant arrest something you tax. Now in my home state there is a man who might be running for govenor he is a republican. He is an amazing guy and I will be voting for him. Unlike most right wingers Im not a puppet.
                                          Last edited by tony286; 09-02-2008, 10:16 AM.

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                                          • Bossman
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                                            • Jun 2006
                                            • 1263

                                            #22
                                            We already pay this in Europe... its called VAT and can be up to 25%


                                            (ok, its not really an extra tax on porn, but its something european porn sites pay, which US paysites does not. Fucking idiotic socialist politicians here in Europe )
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                                            • Klen
                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 32234

                                              #23
                                              It's not democrats who wants this,it only one stupid senator.And when it comes to stupidity,it doesnt matter is it democrat or republican.

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                                              • MakingItPay
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                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 1922

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                It's not democrats who wants this,it only one stupid senator.And when it comes to stupidity,it doesnt matter is it democrat or republican.
                                                She had a shitload of other senators behind her though right? I had the impression the photo was from the announcement of the bill.
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                                                • MakingItPay
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Bossman
                                                  We already pay this in Europe... its called VAT and can be up to 25%


                                                  (ok, its not really an extra tax on porn, but its something european porn sites pay, which US paysites does not. Fucking idiotic socialist politicians here in Europe )
                                                  Now if they added a new 25% just for porn it would suck.
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                                                  • TheDoc
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                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 13827

                                                    #26
                                                    The article is from 2005, I think this issue has already died and went away. Of course it will return, it does every few years.
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                                                    • MakingItPay
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                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 1922

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                      The article is from 2005, I think this issue has already died and went away. Of course it will return, it does every few years.
                                                      I thought that sounded familiar. Thanks for pointing it out. That bill I believe died a quick death.
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                                                      • MrPinks
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                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 1767

                                                        #28
                                                        Actually, there is a repub behind it. Check the pick. I knew it was old because it has Lieberman in it as a dem. He is now repub and has tried many times to cripple the adult and video game industry. Either way, it is old news and impossible to implement outside of the US.
                                                        Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                        My guess is that if the exact same propositions were made by a Republican you would be screaming bloody murder.

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                                                        • MakingItPay
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                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 1922

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MrPinks
                                                          Actually, there is a repub behind it. Check the pick. I knew it was old because it has Lieberman in it as a dem. He is now repub and has tried many times to cripple the adult and video game industry. Either way, it is old news and impossible to implement outside of the US.
                                                          Lieberman is not a repub. He is an independent. And he is just standing in line. The person behind it is a female democrat.
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                                                          • Drake
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                                                            • Mar 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            One difference is that all the Democrats in this thread are opposed to such legislation and wouldn't support it nor the "Democratic" Senator behind it. However, Republicans here seem to be completely ok with voting for and supporting those in office who pose threats to the industry, or dismissing the threat altogether. The sky didn't fall under the current administration but the atmosphere certainly changed.

                                                            It's a fine balancing act - to be a Republican in this industry. You get to have the 'socialist' Democrats fight the good fight for social liberties like accessibility to porn, but when it comes to economics play the Republican card - make out how Democrats are all poor and clueless. This industry wouldn't even exist were it not for those damned Liberals. I think in the end it's a love-hate relationsihp with both groups needing and feeding off each other.
                                                            Last edited by Drake; 09-02-2008, 10:46 AM.

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                                                            • Loryn
                                                              Super Connector
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 12853

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                              We may want to pay attention to this... not everyone in this business can just move offshore....


                                                              http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in712364.shtml




                                                              .

                                                              You are preachin? to the wrong crowd sexy! Politian?s who are Dems can never do wrong to more than half the people here, even when the Dem Politian?s flat out say they want to monitor the Internet, it doesn?t matter. It makes me sad and my heart begins to hurt, but there is nothing you can do!

                                                              Hey I just wanted to tell you that I am so sorry I wanted to give your sexy women a kiss. She is just so irresistible. You guys forgive me? hehe On a side note, you both are great. I loved hangin? with you in Miami!
                                                              ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~




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                                                              • directfiesta
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                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 30176

                                                                #32
                                                                Sperbonzo attempt to deflect the Sarah Paulin / Bristol scandal ...

                                                                http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=851845
                                                                post # 33

                                                                Article from 2005 ... next , he will find an article that democrats want the draft ... from 1966 ...

                                                                so weak.
                                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                • Loryn
                                                                  Super Connector
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 12853

                                                                  #33
                                                                  [QUOTE=Mike33;14698279] The sky didn't fall under the current administration but the atmosphere certainly changed.

                                                                  QUOTE]

                                                                  Yes the sky did change! Porn has been saturated all over the Internet since 2000. I came into this Industry in 2003 and I even see a HUGE explosion of porn since then, so from 2000 it has to have grown even more. I kinda choose to believe what I see, over believing what people try to tell me or convince me to believe! I am not complaining about porn growing, but I do think that having that much free porn out there kinda fucks with peoples sales. I don't know, the saying, "Who wants to buy the cow with you can get the milk for free" comes to mind!!!
                                                                  ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~




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                                                                  • Mr. Blue
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                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                    • 536

                                                                    #34
                                                                    End of the day it comes down to the fact the porn industry will never have "friends" in Washington. Whether its a crazy religious bible thumping Republican or a feminist that wouldn't mind to see the demise of women being used as sexual objects, umm, yeah whatever. I remember when that cow Tipper Gore was on the topic of 2 Live Crew, or Hillary was whinging on a cartoon porn scene in a MA-17 rated video game.

                                                                    People thinking that Dem or Rep will be "porn friendly" has done just lost their fool mind. You gotta hope for a politician that's too busy with real issues...hmm...oh wait, umm, damn we're screwed.
                                                                    See Sig...oh wait.

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                                                                    • tony299
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                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 57021

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mr. Blue
                                                                      End of the day it comes down to the fact the porn industry will never have "friends" in Washington. Whether its a crazy religious bible thumping Republican or a feminist that wouldn't mind to see the demise of women being used as sexual objects, umm, yeah whatever. I remember when that cow Tipper Gore was on the topic of 2 Live Crew, or Hillary was whinging on a cartoon porn scene in a MA-17 rated video game.

                                                                      People thinking that Dem or Rep will be "porn friendly" has done just lost their fool mind. You gotta hope for a politician that's too busy with real issues...hmm...oh wait, umm, damn we're screwed.
                                                                      Actually at the end of the day, all the times the government has gone after porn. It was during Nixon, during Reagan and now with Bush. What do they all have in common? During Bush we are seeing the first 2257 inspections, trials for obscenity , changes to make 2257 more fucked up and the firing of doj attorneys because they wouldn't go after adult porn. Again why do you think the porn icons Larry Flynt, Hugh Hefner are democrats, they have actually been thru the bullshit.Democrats are not our friends but they have better things to do with thier time.If 9/11 didnt happen we would of seen a huge hit to our industry because for John Ashcroft that was going to be job one. Loryn also a very nice girl but she doesnt have to worry about them knocking on her door wanting to see her 2257 records or if someone decides what she is shooting is considered obscene.

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                                                                      • notime
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                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                        • 8027

                                                                        #36
                                                                        possible solutions:
                                                                        1) host outside USA (for example The Netherlands)
                                                                        2) offshore (for example www.wsr-corporation.com/en/ )

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                                                                        • tony299
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                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 57021

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by notime
                                                                          possible solutions:
                                                                          1) host outside USA (for example The Netherlands)
                                                                          2) offshore (for example www.wsr-corporation.com/en/ )
                                                                          To tell you the truth if McCain wins and it looks like they are going to really hit porn. Im moving Im already exploring Canada and will be researching all options. Because if it looks like its coming I want to be ready to go.

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                                                                          • sperbonzo
                                                                            I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                            • 9750

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Loryn

                                                                            Hey I just wanted to tell you that I am so sorry I wanted to give your sexy women a kiss. She is just so irresistible. You guys forgive me? hehe On a side note, you both are great. I loved hangin? with you in Miami!
                                                                            LMAO!!! There's nothing to forgive, she wasn't offended.... did you get my voicemail last week btw? Give me a call back when you get a chance.
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                                                                            • notime
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                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 8027

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                                                              To tell you the truth if McCain wins and it looks like they are going to really hit porn. Im moving Im already exploring Canada and will be researching all options. Because if it looks like its coming I want to be ready to go.
                                                                              It can never hurt to have a backup plan in position
                                                                              Guard you domainname, guard your data & backups, love your affilaites/friends/suppliers & stay tuned to politics.
                                                                              The reason this industry survives, is that all people in it are smart, read/share info and think out of the box, adapt new technologies first, etc.

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                                                                              • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 19634

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Stupid post.
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                                                                                • tornell
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                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                  • LiveDose
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                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                    • 25792

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Democrats with their fucking taxes. The bullshit never ends. It would be nice if they stopped wasting the money that is already collected.

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                                                                                    • fatfoo
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                                                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      yeaaah.... hmmm.....
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                                                                                      • theharvman
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        hmm.....
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                                                                                        • directfiesta
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                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 30176

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by LiveDose
                                                                                          Democrats with their fucking taxes. The bullshit never ends. It would be nice if they stopped wasting the money that is already collected.


                                                                                          Tank god for the no-spending republicans .... They got back the economy from the deficit maniacs of democrats....
                                                                                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                          • NicAngel
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            they're all crooks
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                                                                                            • smutnut
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Jul 2007
                                                                                              • 5889

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I've said it before and I'll say it again, here's your choice

                                                                                              NORBIT, or THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE and his FUCKABLE MILF.

                                                                                              Those are you're choices and it's all window dressing so it doesn't matter who the fuck you vote for.

                                                                                              It was either Barbara Boxer or the Feinstien slut that went after the Mitchel Brothers and they are both democrats (the sluts, not the Mitchel Brothers - not sure what they are except I'm pretty sure the younger one is quite dead)!

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                                                                                              • Mr. Blue
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                                                                                                • Jan 2005
                                                                                                • 536

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                Actually at the end of the day, all the times the government has gone after porn. It was during Nixon, during Reagan and now with Bush. What do they all have in common? During Bush we are seeing the first 2257 inspections, trials for obscenity , changes to make 2257 more fucked up and the firing of doj attorneys because they wouldn't go after adult porn. Again why do you think the porn icons Larry Flynt, Hugh Hefner are democrats, they have actually been thru the bullshit.Democrats are not our friends but they have better things to do with thier time.If 9/11 didnt happen we would of seen a huge hit to our industry because for John Ashcroft that was going to be job one. Loryn also a very nice girl but she doesnt have to worry about them knocking on her door wanting to see her 2257 records or if someone decides what she is shooting is considered obscene.
                                                                                                I'm an independent...I state this first because I belong to neither of the religions (dems / reps) and I do like to state that point in advance because whenever I discuss politics I usually have Republicans calling me a liberal and Democrats calling me a conservative...because both groups view the world in a very black and white kind of way...I'm a shade of grey (computer tan gives me that color).

                                                                                                Now, you can take what I say as an attack against Democrats or you can see that there is cause for alarm in our industry regardless of who gets put into power. Who's the more likely to cause us trouble? McCain most likely, but that doesn't mean Obama is necessarily going to leave the industry alone.

                                                                                                A vote for Obama does not mean the industry gets left alone, it also doesn't mean the industry flourishes because there's many factors that can effect the profitability of the industry.

                                                                                                I happen to be voting for Nader, more as a protest vote against crappy candidates, but I live in NY and I have the luxury of casting that vote because I know which way our state would go. If I were in one of those battleground type states I would grit my teeth and vote for Obama but I wouldn't feel good about it...
                                                                                                See Sig...oh wait.

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                                                                                                • Brujah
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 22157

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  The FBI is joining the Bush administration's War on Porn. And it's looking for a few good agents.
                                                                                                  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091901570.html

                                                                                                  They should lock you all up, and throw your pornographer asses in jail. Go Team Bush!

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                                                                                                  • Brujah
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                    • 22157

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Obscenity prosecutions are taking a toll on the porn industry as publishers embrace an every-man-for-himself approach under relentless Bush administration attacks.
                                                                                                    http://www.wired.com/culture/lifesty.../2006/06/71134

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