If the average American held the same values as the people on GFY. Lucky for him, they don't.
McCain could have a real problem
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No, not most of them. What you have is a bunch of people who find it funny that a holier-than-thou type who wants to push her values on everyone else (pro-life, abstinence-only in schools, creationism in schools, anti-contraceptives, etc...) turns out to be a bit flawed herself. She's the type of person who would make the big deal out of these things. That makes it humorous and hypocritical.
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nobody likes double standards on any board ... just a guess. Except the double standard pushersNo, not most of them. What you have is a bunch of people who find it funny that a holier-than-thou type who wants to push her values on everyone else (pro-life, abstinence-only in schools, creationism in schools, anti-contraceptives, etc...) turns out to be a bit flawed herself. She's the type of person who would make the big deal out of these things. That makes it humorous and hypocritical.
If you really don't get that, it's because you only see what you want to see.
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actually they do. We are everyday people and this " holy than thou" right-wing nuts, just got nuts swinging to the chin. You'd be jumping up and down as if you were 73 again if this was an OBAMA scandal.. remember the dumb REV wright shit or the lame William Ayers shit Sean Hannity pushes out his ass every day. You are a fool this time grampsComment
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Really? You are not ready to admit that there is a large portion of the populace that is anti-abortion, believes in Creationism or supports the action in Iraq?
I think there is no question that there is a huge portion of the populace on either side of these issues.Comment
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Ill help you
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-warpoll_N.htm 60 percent are against iraq
http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/2024509/posts 71 are anti abortion
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in657083.shtml more lean to creationism I find this one very upsetting.
you got 2 out of three.Last edited by tony286; 09-01-2008, 01:19 PM.Comment
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It was a ridiculous and vague statement. The opposite could be said and be true if that is how you are defining it. A majority would make more sense.Comment
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There you have it. It's not even 50/50. The majority is still in favor of these views.Ill help you
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-warpoll_N.htm 60 percent are against iraq
http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/2024509/posts 71 are anti abortion
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in657083.shtml more lean to creationism I find this one very upsetting.
you got 2 out of three.
If those figures are accurate, they confirm that the views on GFY aren't at all representative. I've seen polls like this before and was surprised, too. Sad really. But no amount of wishing it away changes it.Last edited by Drake; 09-01-2008, 01:24 PM.Comment
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Actually, that would be 3/3 since 40% is still a significant portion of the populace.Ill help you
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-warpoll_N.htm 60 percent are against iraq
http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/2024509/posts 71 are anti abortion
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in657083.shtml more lean to creationism I find this one very upsetting.
you got 2 out of three.Comment
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Huh? You quoted stats that show the majority is not in favour of these views... Can someone give a non-American a rundown on what's going on here?There you have it. It's not even 50/50. The majority is still in favor of these views.
If those figures are accurate, they confirm that the views on GFY aren't at all representative. I've seen polls like this before and was surprised, too. Sad really. But no amount of wishing it away changes it.
Ideas floating around:
US populace is better than general GFY lowlife
US populace is as stupid as GFY
Pornographers would sell their mother for a [unique] hit
Pornographers are intelligent as the rest of the 'mainstream' people
I'm confused....
In any case - here's some clarification on those stats that were pimped....
Of those 60% "...include those who want U.S. troops out immediately and others, like Tease, who argue America has an obligation to improve Iraq's stability before going."Ill help you
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-warpoll_N.htm 60 percent are against iraq
That is not the same as 60% are against Iraq....
71 are anti abortion
the # of real anti-abortion people == # of pro-life people. The uncertainty rests in those that can't make up there minds (54%) saying no abortion is wrong, but ok in certain circustances (add me to that 54% miscreants) ... And these stats are unchanged since 3 years (from that article).
I'm sorry but I do not at all find this disturbing - I find it shows that 87% of Americans eitherhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in657083.shtml more lean to creationism I find this one very upsetting.
you got 2 out of three.
1) don't know what creationism means
2) are actually allowed to think for themselves and not be spoon fed.
Of course, these kinds of polls rarely show their poll #s nor their funding source, so take statistical data with a pinch of salt....
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I concede I misread that article - "Just 13 percent say that God was not involved. But most would not substitute the teaching of creationism for the teaching of evolution in public schools.
confused me - add me to the GFY miscreants list. TY.
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I went by Tony's numbers. Didn't bother to confirm them. Whichever way you want to look at it, there are many Americans who believe in Creationism, are anti-abortionist, and in favor of the war. Many are the opposite, and many are in the middle.Comment
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