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  • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
    Trump!
    • Feb 2011
    • 6442

    #16
    Originally posted by crucifissio
    yes but those first 300$ get spent again and again and again by other people and the gov gets $60 every time....if you look at just one transaction then yes, it is a loss...
    It's a loss each and every time you fucking moron

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    • makko2
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2012
      • 104

      #17
      Originally posted by JohnnyClips
      You can say or call me whatever.

      Need to make America great again! We don't need any more immigrants
      A better option that most Americans would prefer is deporting sourpuss-hatebreeder-crybabies and replacing them with immigrants who appreciate good opportunities in the USA.

      Keep going though - each post you make is opening the eyes of potential Trump fans who now know what the real base is and won't join the retrograde movement..

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      • pimpmaster9000
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2011
        • 26732

        #18
        Originally posted by JohnnyClips
        It's a loss each and every time you fucking moron
        in a world where only one monetary transaction per month exists you would not be a moron...but unfortunately for you, even the other 240$ he spends ends up spent somewhere else, again and again BY OTHER PEOPLE and the gov is there every single time on every single step...it needs to make 5 cycles and the printed money has made 100% of itself back at a 20% tax rate just for example...

        poor mans money is much more liquid than rich mans long term investments offshore in tax havens...you want to talk about a LOSS then focus on the bulk of all funds LOL
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        • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
          Trump!
          • Feb 2011
          • 6442

          #19
          Originally posted by crucifissio
          in a world where only one monetary transaction per month exists you would not be a moron...but unfortunately for you, even the other 240$ he spends ends up spent somewhere else, again and again BY OTHER PEOPLE and the gov is there every single time on every single step...it needs to make 5 cycles and the printed money has made 100% of itself back at a 20% tax rate just for example...

          poor mans money is much more liquid than rich mans long term investments offshore in tax havens...you want to talk about a LOSS then focus on the bulk of all funds LOL
          Where is this money coming from you fucking cuckold?

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          • Paul&John
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2005
            • 8643

            #20
            Originally posted by crucifissio
            yes but those first 300$ get spent again and again and again by other people and the gov gets $60 every time....if you look at just one transaction then yes, it is a loss...
            So they spend $300 and get back $60.. no matter how do you look at it, its still a $240 lost every month which needs to be covered by other sources.. also not every dollar will be spent in the same country, some will be spent by ordering goods from China (aliexpress), some will spend it on vacation/shopping in the neighboring country etc.
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            • pimpmaster9000
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2011
              • 26732

              #21
              Originally posted by Paul&John
              So they spend $300 and get back $60.. no matter how do you look at it, its still a $240 lost every month which needs to be covered by other sources.. also not every dollar will be spent in the same country, some will be spent by ordering goods from China (aliexpress), some will spend it on vacation/shopping in the neighboring country etc.

              so that 300$ disappears for ever?? no...it gets spent again and again...many times per month...whether its abroad or domestic, in a money printing economy like the USA, it matters little...worst case scenario is they turn the printing press on again...

              you would kill to be in their shoes...so would I
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              • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
                Trump!
                • Feb 2011
                • 6442

                #22
                Originally posted by crucifissio
                so that 300$ disappears for ever?? no...it gets spent again and again...many times per month...whether its abroad or domestic, in a money printing economy like the USA, it matters little...worst case scenario is they turn the printing press on again...

                you would kill to be in their shoes...so would I
                It's $300 you dumbass it doesn't magically reproduce itself time and time again holy fuck!

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                • Paul&John
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 8643

                  #23
                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                  so that 300$ disappears for ever?? no...it gets spent again and again...many times per month...whether its abroad or domestic, in a money printing economy like the USA, it matters little...worst case scenario is they turn the printing press on again...

                  you would kill to be in their shoes...so would I
                  It doesn't disappears, but it definitely won't get back into the pocket of the government who handed it out - so basically in the long run, the government will run out of money. No matter what happens the government will get back only up to 20% of it (according to our example here). And yes you can print money, but not with that speed.. if they get back only 20%, then it means they need to devalue the money 5x each month (basically an inflation of 500% each month). So in January a bread costs $1, next month it should cost $5 to keep up the money flow..
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                  • crockett
                    in a van by the river
                    • May 2003
                    • 76818

                    #24
                    Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                    But the brown and black people popping out babies aren't working. They're collecting welfare too which is why the US is trillions in debt
                    That just shows you are uninformed and basing your thoughts on misguided ideology rather than actual facts.

                    Yes a lot of minorities are on social assistance but so are white people.

                    The larger percentage of hispanics for example work and actually produce. Hence the reason they pop out 3 kids to get that tax deduction at the end of the year. If they don't work, then they don't get that tax credit.
                    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                    • pimpmaster9000
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 26732

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Paul&John
                      It doesn't disappears, but it definitely won't get back into the pocket of the government who handed it out - so basically in the long run, the government will run out of money. No matter what happens the government will get back only up to 20% of it (according to our example here). And yes you can print money, but not with that speed.. if they get back only 20%, then it means they need to devalue the money 5x each month (basically an inflation of 500% each month). So in January a bread costs $1, next month it should cost $5 to keep up the money flow..
                      no the government has a pre printed pool of money, the tax rate should be able to sustain an entire country, in theory of course...now if the country over spends then its in shit...but those 300$ get spent a few times per month they do not just sit...poor mans capital is liquid he does not have savings...it circulates...upon each transaction the gov makes $...

                      and you can not use inflation as an argument the USA exports its inflation by forcing the US$ as a "world reserve currency" and by making everybody sell oil for US$ so it creates false demand and this raises the value...the US gov is a dirty player...
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                      • OneHungLo
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • May 2001
                        • 40906

                        #26
                        Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                        It's $300 you dumbass it doesn't magically reproduce itself time and time again holy fuck!
                        That 300 is used to buy crack and other black market goods. The government doesnt get shit back.

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                        • crockett
                          in a van by the river
                          • May 2003
                          • 76818

                          #27
                          Originally posted by OneHungLo
                          That 300 is used to buy crack and other black market goods. The government doesnt get shit back.
                          Don't be dumb..even if money is used to buy drugs it still gets used before and after and is taxed each time aside from private transactions. The simple fact is the poor and middle class circulate those dollars endlessly until it winds up into the hands of the 1%.

                          At that point it's less likely to be recirculated or taxed for some time causing the money to go out of circulation causing the tax earned on that money to drastically decrease. This is why a strong middle class is the most important foundation for a solid economy.
                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                          • MiamiBoyz
                            fgfdftre6
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 6690

                            #28
                            Originally posted by crockett
                            Don't be dumb..even if money is used to buy drugs it still gets used before and after and is taxed each time aside from private transactions. The simple fact is the poor and middle class circulate those dollars endlessly until it winds up into the hands of the 1%.

                            At that point it's less likely to be recirculated or taxed for some time causing the money to go out of circulation causing the tax earned on that money to drastically decrease. This is why a strong middle class is the most important foundation for a solid economy.
                            You make an interesting argument and it is true for a country like the USA was...however, it ultimately failed because it is an artificial system. It is clear from history and from countries even today that there has always been a disbalance of wealth.

                            There is always a ruling class and then a class of commoners. Only 2 classes with the small group having 99% and then the rest sharing the 1% left over.

                            The USA is quickly equalizing to this norm. Given 50 more years (or perhaps less) this country will be functioning exactly as any relatively developed 3rd world country such as Chile for example.

                            The middle class is essentially nonexistent in those countries and so it will be in the USA as well.

                            The USA might just have been like the Roman empire and the English empire the last empire humans will know...perhaps

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                            • oppoten
                              NAME THE JEW
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 4793

                              #29
                              At least you have a political figure who is up with the times.

                              Here in the UK, we have one major party representing the traditional upper class, and the other representing the trade unions. Neither of which knows what the fuck is going on...

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                              • crockett
                                in a van by the river
                                • May 2003
                                • 76818

                                #30
                                Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                You make an interesting argument and it is true for a country like the USA was...however, it ultimately failed because it is an artificial system. It is clear from history and from countries even today that there has always been a disbalance of wealth.

                                There is always a ruling class and then a class of commoners. Only 2 classes with the small group having 99% and then the rest sharing the 1% left over.

                                The USA is quickly equalizing to this norm. Given 50 more years (or perhaps less) this country will be functioning exactly as any relatively developed 3rd world country such as Chile for example.

                                The middle class is essentially nonexistent in those countries and so it will be in the USA as well.

                                The USA might just have been like the Roman empire and the English empire the last empire humans will know...perhaps
                                Don't get me wrong, I'm not a whiner about the 1%, I used that term because it best fits. I understand that those with more money will rise to the top of any political system. Money equals power, that's a fact of life.

                                The thing you don't look at is this change you speak of is actually created by the 1% and would not have come to pass if regulations were kept in place to keep this sort of imbalance from happening.

                                The USA has been strong and prospered due to the check and balance system that kept 1% from ruling the 99%. The country can not stay a world power if the imbalance gets too much. The 1% then suffer as well because they depend on the 99% for their creation of wealth. Making a balanced system the best option for all parties involved. No one is keeping their billions in vaults of gold or silver or whatever. It's all just numbers on a computer screen..

                                All the money in the world is not safe if the banking system is not stable from a bad economy. Billions can disappear just like hundreds can..
                                In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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