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  • Kard63
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    • Nov 2003
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    #1

    What is a decent bounce rate on a blog with all SEO traffic

    What is a decent bounce rate?
  • baddog
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
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    #2
    bounce rate?

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    • datatank
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      • Aug 2004
      • 5471

      #3
      Average spamish blog with links to paysite I see around 80% bounce

      Tubeish looking site with videos I see around 30% in best cases

      Hope this help

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      • Sands
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        • Feb 2007
        • 3134

        #4
        Originally posted by datatank
        Average spamish blog with links to paysite I see around 80% bounce

        Tubeish looking site with videos I see around 30% in best cases

        Hope this help
        That's pretty close to my own bounce rates.

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        • d-null
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          • Apr 2007
          • 13724

          #5
          bounce rates are where google could really fuck things up if they start to use it more in the algorithm

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          • Iron Fist
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            • Dec 2006
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            #6
            Originally posted by baddog
            bounce rate?
            What does Bounce Rate mean?

            Bounce rate is the percentage of single-page visits or visits in which the person left your site from the entrance (landing) page. Use this metric to measure visit quality - a high bounce rate generally indicates that site entrance pages aren't relevant to your visitors. The more compelling your landing pages, the more visitors will stay on your site and convert. You can minimize bounce rates by tailoring landing pages to each keyword and ad that you run. Landing pages should provide the information and services that were promised in the ad copy.

            To view the bounce rates for your website, go to the Bounce Rate report under Visitors > Visitor Trending > Bounce Rate.

            http://www.google.com/support/analyt...n&answer=81986
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            • d-null
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              • Apr 2007
              • 13724

              #7
              the thing is, if a surfer comes to your site, and the first thing they do is spot a thumb or a link that looks good to them, they click straight to your sponsor and a few minutes later sign up, you are doing great money wise but that kind of visit would count as a 100% bounce

              a tubesite where the surfer comes, eats up a ton of bandwidth watching a dozen videos, jacks off and then turns off the computer will show a real low bounce rate


              so if you have an age question entry page on your site, will you show a near zero bounce rate?? I always thought it had more to do with multiple page visits, not just >1 ?

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              • Iron Fist
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                • Dec 2006
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                #8
                The way Google sees it is that bounce rates off gateway pages means your content must NOT be relevant...

                However, its funny because only in the adult world can you have a MGP/TGP which is essentially just one page, and have all your content be completely relevant. On my TGPs my bounce rates are very high... in the 90% and up range, but then again, i'm fine with that because I want them either exiting to trade, or exiting to sponsor like you said.

                On a AVS/freesite, I would want it as low as I can make it... understandably.
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                • d-null
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                  • Apr 2007
                  • 13724

                  #9
                  thats what I mean

                  I think its been said that google toys with the idea of using bounce rate as a measure of relevance in search engine requests, which could end up being a bad thing

                  sites that steal all their content and give it away for free can look pretty relevant in the search engine world, as a surfer that types in "Playboy" and ends up at a bad tube site or file "sharing" forum is likely to bookmark and stay a long time, whereas a surfer that ends up at a Playboy affiliate is hopefully ending up clicking his way to the Join page on Playboy's site before too long

                  a search engine algorithm that determines relevance by how long a surfer stays on a landing site could end up rewarding the worst of the worst in adult

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                  • d-null
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                    • Apr 2007
                    • 13724

                    #10
                    and alot of this is subject to just how nosy google's toolbar decides to get in the future

                    google knows the whole 'backlink' system is a poor way to determine relevance, and they are busy doing hand tweaking all the time, so I am sure they are looking at ways to use toolbar data along with their searches to add to the algorithm

                    seo as we know it today may be drastically different in a year or two

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                    • Iron Fist
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 23400

                      #11
                      Originally posted by d-null
                      a search engine algorithm that determines relevance by how long a surfer stays on a landing site could end up rewarding the worst of the worst in adult
                      True enough.. I think I seen someone say "Content is king..."

                      they're right... except Google can't distinguish legal from illegal content.
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                      • DirtyProfits
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                        • May 2005
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by baddog
                        bounce rate?
                        are you serious? you provide seo services and don't know what the bounce rate is?

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                        • polish_aristocrat
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by sharphead
                          What does Bounce Rate mean?

                          Bounce rate is the percentage of single-page visits or visits in which the person left your site from the entrance (landing) page. Use this metric to measure visit quality - a high bounce rate generally indicates that site entrance pages aren't relevant to your visitors. The more compelling your landing pages, the more visitors will stay on your site and convert. You can minimize bounce rates by tailoring landing pages to each keyword and ad that you run. Landing pages should provide the information and services that were promised in the ad copy.

                          To view the bounce rates for your website, go to the Bounce Rate report under Visitors > Visitor Trending > Bounce Rate.

                          http://www.google.com/support/analyt...n&answer=81986
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                          • The Duck
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                            #14
                            interesting, had no clue about it
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                            • fris
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 55835

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DirtyProfits
                              are you serious? you provide seo services and don't know what the bounce rate is?
                              ya no kidding, thats like being a football player and not knowing what a touchdown is
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                              • baddog
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DirtyProfits
                                are you serious? you provide seo services and don't know what the bounce rate is?
                                goodgirl does the SEO, not me. I am familiar with what they are talking about, just never heard the name used.

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                                • TyroneGoldberg
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                                  • Sep 2007
                                  • 1081

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fris
                                  ya no kidding, thats like being a football player and not knowing what a touchdown is
                                  There's no touchdowns in football...

                                  Only goals

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                                  • mynameisjim
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                                    • Aug 2007
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                                    #18
                                    I think bounce rate is a bogus number by itself. Think of it like this.

                                    If you are searching google for something, click on a link, and don't find it on the first page and search all around the site, that's actually a bad experience for the surfer, even though bounce rate would be low since you are searching all over this site and not finding what you wanted.

                                    Now say you click on a link, get the info you need, then move on with your life. The surfer had a good experience but the bounce rate would be very high.

                                    There is no way you can apply the same bounce rate criteria to different types of sites. So it's not a universal stat and has to be used on a site by site basis, and even a search by search basis.
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                                    • baddog
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mynameisjim
                                      I think bounce rate is a bogus number by itself. Think of it like this.

                                      If you are searching google for something, click on a link, and don't find it on the first page and search all around the site, that's actually a bad experience for the surfer, even though bounce rate would be low since you are searching all over this site and not finding what you wanted.

                                      Now say you click on a link, get the info you need, then move on with your life. The surfer had a good experience but the bounce rate would be very high.

                                      There is no way you can apply the same bounce rate criteria to different types of sites. So it's not a universal stat and has to be used on a site by site basis, and even a search by search basis.
                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_Rate Doesn't sound all that important.

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                                      • webmasterchecks
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                                        • Oct 2006
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_Rate Doesn't sound all that important.
                                        it gives you an idea of whats coming to your site and just bouncing away, cause you want less of that, you can make it better by changing the traffic thats coming and leaving or changing the page around to make it more enticing, id say its one of the more important stats
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                                        • mynameisjim
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                                          • Aug 2007
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by webmasterchecks
                                          it gives you an idea of whats coming to your site and just bouncing away, cause you want less of that, you can make it better by changing the traffic thats coming and leaving or changing the page around to make it more enticing, id say its one of the more important stats
                                          Important depending on the type of site you run. For some, yes is matters, for others, it's worthless.

                                          For example, the drudgereport has a 100% bounce rate, but pulls in over a million dollars a year and is one of the most popular news sites on the internet.
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                                          • baddog
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                                            • Apr 2001
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by mynameisjim
                                            Important depending on the type of site you run.

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                                            • datatank
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                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 5471

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                              [url]Doesn't sound all that important.

                                              Guess its depends on if you want to buy traffic from google or get good organic listings

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                                              • d-null
                                                . . .
                                                • Apr 2007
                                                • 13724

                                                #24
                                                important if google decides it is important to where you rank in the serps


                                                look at it this way, your site makes it to page #1 for a keyword, but your site is showing a high bounce rate when google sends a searcher to you for that keyword, google may then assume that your site is not relevant to the surfer that searched and clicked, so they decide to bump you down a page or two and send you less traffic for that keyword


                                                meanwhile, a site like pornhub gives the surfer all they want for free, so everyone that google sends to pornhub bookmarks, stays and enjoys themselves, and google's algorithm then says, wow 0% bounce rate, this site deserves to be #1 in the serps

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                                                • qxm
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by d-null
                                                  important if google decides it is important to where you rank in the serps


                                                  look at it this way, your site makes it to page #1 for a keyword, but your site is showing a high bounce rate when google sends a searcher to you for that keyword, google may then assume that your site is not relevant to the surfer that searched and clicked, so they decide to bump you down a page or two and send you less traffic for that keyword


                                                  meanwhile, a site like pornhub gives the surfer all they want for free, so everyone that google sends to pornhub bookmarks, stays and enjoys themselves, and google's algorithm then says, wow 0% bounce rate, this site deserves to be #1 in the serps
                                                  makes sense, thats why I stopped using analytics on certain sites...... I figure they could get a lot of information about your game if you decide to "give it to them"

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                                                  • fris
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                                                    • Aug 2002
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                                                    #26
                                                    i dont think we can ever trust baddog now since he doesnt have a clue on seo, and runs a so called seo business.
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                                                    • d-null
                                                      . . .
                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                      • 13724

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by qxm
                                                      makes sense, thats why I stopped using analytics on certain sites...... I figure they could get a lot of information about your game if you decide to "give it to them"
                                                      same here, I took google analytics off of everything long ago


                                                      with the pervasiveness of google toolbars though and probably even through user search click patterns, they eventually get all the info they want anyways

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                                                      • TheDoc
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                                                        • Jul 2001
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                                                        #28
                                                        The bounce rate can be used a few different ways. Based off the bounce rate of the different keyword phrases over a period of time, you can see positives and negatives about the text used and photos/design you are using.

                                                        If you have a landing page, with lets say a few ladies that are about 30, average looking but huge tits. If you then used the words "amateur" to describe the girls in the body text, your keyword phrases with the word amateur in it would probably have a much higher than average bounce rate.

                                                        Changing the word amateurs to ladies, should lower the overall bounce rate.

                                                        The SEO of this is the ratios of bounce rate increase vs the traffic drop/increase from a keyword change, which may end up changing your other keyword phrase listings.

                                                        On the same keywords, with paysite tours or landing pages for paysites, if you have a high bounce rate on a keyword phrase, ignore the seo factor. Changing to better or proper words or keywords that better match the site the can help conversions. Sometimes the Webmaster thinks we want one thing when we are really looking at another.

                                                        Using the bounce rate, the average time they stay on the page and exit rate, you can really judge how well a keyword or webpage is doing. From SEO, to PPC, to just knowing if your on target with what people are seeing.
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