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Old 02-19-2016, 08:24 PM  
johnnyloadproductions
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Originally Posted by Colmike7 View Post
Yeah, I need to find a real job around here, but so far I haven't found too much. It's a lot more competitive since I'm right around OSU, too.

I know what you mean. I've stopped smoking a lot, completely stopped smoking hookah and if I'm at a skatepark, it's just for exercise really when no one else is there.

Honestly... I made this thread when working today thinking "I'm too fucking old to be delivering pizzas".. I started doing that last week because I made a little over $100,000 by last June and now I have a little less than 20k in the bank and income dried up and I'm scared.. That's why I hate affiliate marketing as primary income.

The pizza place did offer me a programming job at corporate again, but that would be 60 hrs/week 4 weeks on and 1 on call, and it's pretty far from me. They say "It's 34k/yr", but that's after overtime is calculated in...

The place that said they had a job for me once I got my degree for CAD with military vehicles sadly doesn't have an opening yet and cut down since I first applied.



Still, I'm not doing bad, I just am really interested in a full time position.
I have some resumes/CVs to do.
34k a year isn't a serious programming job. I have a friend that owns a lawn mowing business and snow shoveling business, he might still deliver pizzas. You can make $25 hr or more sometimes for relatively easy work. Same reason some people end up bar tending their whole lives and ultimately accomplish nothing.

I've done all kinds of freelancing. I realized shortly after turning 30 (turned 31 a month ago) I need to quit the gig economy. Fixing phones, tutoring sessions, freelance gigs for ma and pa establishments. Being an uber driver is part of the gig economy.
We've all done things we're not proud off.
I did a deal with a guy off of facialforum.net and sent him 3 TB of porn on a hard drive for $400 because his ISP only allowed him 5 GB a month in New Zealand.
I did some tutoring gigs but mostly just did peoples' papers and homework and bill via PayPal. One time a mom called me in a panic and had her son that only had 20% of his algebra 2 class done and needed it complete within 36 hours. $200 and I got it done.

Anyway...

Free lancing is tough if the person paying the bill has ownership of the money, it's always painful for them. If it's just a person paying the expenses it's much easier.
Most people you'll find on craigslist don't have much money to start with. Agency gigs before you get good enough to negotiate on your own.

Not to long ago I got a hand-me-down agency gig from some guys I met, they liked me but I had to dismiss myself after finding out I couldn't do it. The job involved building up a wordpress multisite with a custom built theme and other custom code, back-end and front-end. Too comprehensive and not long afterward I had to dismiss myself ): . Inspired me to do something.
I completed my frontend nano degree with Udacity and have one more project with my fullstack developer degree and then I'm done. All the course projects are not easy!
I'll be starting with shitty gigs to start off (items I'm familiar with) but will be focusing on building up and even delegating out my work to other developers I vet. I like building something I'm proud off and making customers proud. Much easier when it's not smut and you have to sweep it under the rug to save face.

There may be a lot of competition around where you live but there are always more problems than there are competent people.
Starting out is always the hardest part, starting over in different things makes it worse and wears you out.

People fall for all reasons, I had one guy that agreed to do some programming work for $12 an hour 4 years ago (he was desperate) and I found out he did really good with affiliate dating (I saw his earnings from an actual document, well over 6 figures).

Consider going to meetup.com events with people involved with UX/design and specific technologies.

In the meantime quit the pot habit and fire all your loser buddies. Best of luck!
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