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08-03-2008, 09:25 AM

Hey guys, what is your video editor or choice?

I've been a Sony Vegas user for a few years but I'm thinking about learning Premier Pro CS3. Vegas is great software but when I look at all the plugins and other goodies available for editors, Vegas is way down the priority list with these developers. I found several beautiful plugins for video editors that were not available for Vegas

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08-03-2008, 09:35 AM

I'm a huge premiere/after effects fan.

I do more code edits in premiere... light color corrections, clip pulls, etc... Then switch project over to after effects for graphics, heavy corrections, and final format dumps.

I haven't found anything other software has been able to handle that my CS3 suite with a few pluggys can't.

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08-03-2008, 09:37 AM

If I left vegas I would go with Avid or FCP. It would be a skill then that would also have value in mainstream as well as adult.
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08-03-2008, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by tony404

If I left vegas I would go with Avid or FCP. It would be a skill then that would also have value in mainstream as well as adult.

I've head this train of thought quite a bit... but still have some trouble with it.

I've worked with FCP, Avid, shit... A lot of editors... but never been big about caring what industry standard was... You Need output that will work in your Avid, FCP or whatever the fuck else... shouldn't be that hard to setup... right?

How much core difference is there between nle's? You get the basics down on 1-2, you can pretty much edit anywhere... at least from my humble experience.

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08-03-2008, 09:50 AM

I am a long time Adobe Premiere user, and CS3 is working well for me to edit SD and HDV footage daily. All the major editing apps are similar, so it's just a matter of preference if you prefer Vegas' interface. Or if you aspire to work in a mainstream, group environment like some people instead of a self contained workflow, you may want to try Avid , or FCP if you are a Mac person. I also use the Cineform Aspect HD plugin for editing HDV (not necessary anymore really) and a bunch of other software for other specialized tasks that play well with Premiere Pro like Adobe Encore for DVD authoring, Photoshop for various tasks and After Effects sometimes for specific jobs, as well as a number of different apps for batch video encoding and processing like Cleaner XL 1.5, Sorenson Squeeze, VideoCharge and a few others.
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08-03-2008, 09:53 AM

its a shame it really seems like sony dropped the ball on a great editor.
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08-03-2008, 09:54 AM

Premiere, since day one simple and powerfull features.
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08-03-2008, 09:56 AM

I am still using Vegas 4.0 but now i just stepped into the HDV world.

I think I want to stay with Vegas.

Anyone have Vegas 6.0 or higher they want to sell? I really don't need all the bells and whistles. Vegas 4.0 is fine except it doesent do HD. :-(
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08-03-2008, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by BV

I am still using Vegas 4.0 but now i just stepped into the HDV world.

I think I want to stay with Vegas.

Anyone have Vegas 6.0 or higher they want to sell? I really don't need all the bells and whistles. Vegas 4.0 is fine except it doesent do HD. :-(

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_8_Video.html

its the oem disc and its upgradeable.
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08-03-2008, 10:05 AM

I was doing all my stuff on Avid, took the time to learn Vegas and ended up loving it. After effects is certainly fun to play with as well... I wish I had the time to mess with it more.

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08-03-2008, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by BV

I am still using Vegas 4.0 but now i just stepped into the HDV world.

I think I want to stay with Vegas.

Anyone have Vegas 6.0 or higher they want to sell? I really don't need all the bells and whistles. Vegas 4.0 is fine except it doesent do HD. :-(

Vegas 9 just came out and its cheap. I have Vegas 8 and it works great.

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08-03-2008, 10:22 AM

vegas is quick easy efficient work. premiere is way more in depth...

the rest suck

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08-03-2008, 10:23 AM

I have many programs, but Vegas and ULead Video Studio are the best ones, IMO.

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08-03-2008, 10:24 AM

Jim Gunn Nailed it... we rock the same set up. but i dont have CS3 yet...

videocharge and sorenson come in handy for quick encoding and batching...

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08-03-2008, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by GetNaughty

Vegas 9 just came out and its cheap. I have Vegas 8 and it works great.

9 hasnt come out yet, Vegas 8 pro is the newest.
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08-03-2008, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by Deej

vegas is quick easy efficient work. premiere is way more in depth...

the rest suck

Actually you can get very deep into Vegas.It can be as complex as easy as you want. Its the beauty of it.
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08-03-2008, 10:34 AM

my program manager *Munki* ..he's my fav editor .. well you asked .. lol

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08-03-2008, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Jim_Gunn

I am a long time Adobe Premiere user, and CS3 is working well for me to edit SD and HDV footage daily. All the major editing apps are similar, so it's just a matter of preference if you prefer Vegas' interface. Or if you aspire to work in a mainstream, group environment like some people instead of a self contained workflow, you may want to try Avid , or FCP if you are a Mac person. I also use the Cineform Aspect HD plugin for editing HDV (not necessary anymore really) and a bunch of other software for other specialized tasks that play well with Premiere Pro like Adobe Encore for DVD authoring, Photoshop for various tasks and After Effects sometimes for specific jobs, as well as a number of different apps for batch video encoding and processing like Cleaner XL 1.5, Sorenson Squeeze, VideoCharge and a few others.

Mostly what Jim said hehe. premiere cs3, sorenson,videocharge, main concept plugin, etc etc.
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08-03-2008, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by tony404

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_8_Video.html

its the oem disc and its upgradeable.

Tony, why is that so cheap? its 549.00 to activate the download on the sony site?

something seems weird.
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08-03-2008, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by tony404

Actually you can get very deep into Vegas.It can be as complex as easy as you want. Its the beauty of it.

nice, I guess i just didnt touch it enough :P

thats what ive heard along with my thoughts...

Ive been messing with premiere for years... was making local commercials in high school - lost it for a few years and picke dit back up when i started in adult...

Only seen vegas and dabbled on another's setup

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08-03-2008, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by tony404

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_8_Video.html

its the oem disc and its upgradeable.

i think thats just a training video
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08-03-2008, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by BV

Tony, why is that so cheap? its 549.00 to activate the download on the sony site?

something seems weird.

Because its oem. I bought Vegas 6 from them for $99 bucks registered with sony and when vegas 8 got the special upgrade price. Bought directly from Sony.Bh isnt going to fuck around with sony they sell tons of sony shit.
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08-03-2008, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by BV

Tony, why is that so cheap? its 549.00 to activate the download on the sony site?

something seems weird.

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08-03-2008, 10:50 AM

Also with bh you can call them ask them they are very cool.
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08-03-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by tony404

Because its oem. I bought Vegas 6 from them for $99 bucks registered with sony and when vegas 8 got the special upgrade price. Bought directly from Sony.Bh isnt going to fuck around with sony they sell tons of sony shit.

yah but still you would think you could activate it online from sony for close to the same price (for just the download) no manual or disc
they want 549.00

just called bh today "Sunday" (thank god for hebrews) lol, and they said theirs does not have the dvd architecture stuff
i guess i really dont need that anyways

i'm going to play with the trial i just downloaded and if i like it i will order the disc from bh.

thanks for the info, u prob just saved me 400 bucks
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08-03-2008, 10:58 AM

BV I now expect to be added to your christmas card list lol your very welcome. I have never used dvd arch yet.
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08-03-2008, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by BV

Tony, why is that so cheap? its 549.00 to activate the download on the sony site?

something seems weird.

That's the one that I bought....and it works perfectly! Didn't come with manual or box, only a disc in a sleeve with serial number on it!

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08-03-2008, 10:59 AM

download 8.0b for the trial not a
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08-03-2008, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by tony404

Also with bh you can call them ask them they are very cool.

yah i know, been buying from them since 2000

they are jamup, i would never have guessed they would sell this so cheap compared to anywhere else online though,

i mean they are usually right in there with everyone else, this is like a super deal
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08-03-2008, 11:00 AM

Man I wish BH had an affiliate program I would be rich lol
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08-03-2008, 11:43 AM

I use vegas for 2 reasons

Its fast

Its efficient

if you know how to use one NLE you know how to use all of them and theres very little that one can do that another cant do

unless you are in a mutliuser/project oriented environment avid and FCP are bloatware

the rest of its just personal preference

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08-03-2008, 12:18 PM

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Man I wish BH had an affiliate program I would be rich lol

How true, I have personally purchased tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment there and sent quite a few others to make large purchases as well.
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08-03-2008, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by jakethedog

my program manager *Munki* ..he's my fav editor .. well you asked .. lol

Jake has a point here. An editor is usually a person, an editing program or software or an editing app(lication) is usually how one refers to the software.
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08-03-2008, 12:25 PM

I use a stand alone Roland Edirol Editing Deck for the actual editing. Then I capture the finished product with Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 for rendering.

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08-03-2008, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Robbie

I use a stand alone Roland Edirol Editing Deck for the actual editing. Then I capture the finished product with Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 for rendering.

Btw did you get the settings nailed down on the main concept plugin?
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08-03-2008, 01:14 PM

Final Cut Pro anyone?

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08-03-2008, 02:23 PM

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08-03-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Btw did you get the settings nailed down on the main concept plugin?

Sure did. Have a very nice looking .mp4 setting that makes some pretty big files, about a third again larger than the old .wmv . I'm offering that as a high internet speed version. It's flawless looking. But it takes a long time to render because I set it up to give the best possible quality (complex settings, etc.) But it's worth the 4 to 6 hour rendering for a 25 minute vid because it just looks so damn good.

Then I have a low speed version which is a much lower bitrate and using the "fast" settings. Takes about 30 minutes to render. File size is about a third less of the .wmv file it replaces.

Seems to work fine with those two settings. If the member has a good broadband connection and isn't using all of his resources on his machine the high quality one starts streaming in about 3 seconds.

The low version can stream even when I'm uploading files at the same time. It doesn't look quite as good as the high version, but it still looks pretty good, and better than 50% of the stuff I see out there.

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08-03-2008, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Robbie

Sure did. Have a very nice looking .mp4 setting that makes some pretty big files, about a third again larger than the old .wmv . I'm offering that as a high internet speed version. It's flawless looking. But it takes a long time to render because I set it up to give the best possible quality (complex settings, etc.) But it's worth the 4 to 6 hour rendering for a 25 minute vid because it just looks so damn good.

Then I have a low speed version which is a much lower bitrate and using the "fast" settings. Takes about 30 minutes to render. File size is about a third less of the .wmv file it replaces.

Seems to work fine with those two settings. If the member has a good broadband connection and isn't using all of his resources on his machine the high quality one starts streaming in about 3 seconds.

The low version can stream even when I'm uploading files at the same time. It doesn't look quite as good as the high version, but it still looks pretty good, and better than 50% of the stuff I see out there.

Good deal. Since our exclusive sites are HD we don't worry too much about slower bandwidth older computers, cause frankly its not our market.
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08-03-2008, 03:32 PM

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08-03-2008, 03:41 PM

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08-03-2008, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Good deal. Since our exclusive sites are HD we don't worry too much about slower bandwidth older computers, cause frankly its not our market.

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08-03-2008, 04:51 PM

Actually the Red Scarlet might be the better investment if you can hold off until early 2009.

http://www.red.com/nab/scarlet

It will easily be the best $3000 camera on the market.
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08-03-2008, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by mattsbeachhouse

Actually the Red Scarlet might be the better investment if you can hold off until early 2009.

http://www.red.com/nab/scarlet

It will easily be the best $3000 camera on the market.

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08-03-2008, 05:04 PM

Premiere CS 3 hands down.

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08-03-2008, 05:07 PM

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08-03-2008, 05:08 PM

Hang on...that camera ain't gonna cost $3000 The 3K that you see is resolution. I'm looking at the only model that they have available right now: The Red One. It's a "4k" one. And it costs $17,500 for the body only.

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08-03-2008, 05:13 PM

Whoa....tack on another $8,500 for a lens. If the scarlet is priced anywhere close to this...and you know it will be...that's a little too much camera for me to shoot porn with. Looks real nice though.

You figure HD is shot at 1080 and this red one is shooting at 4000 lines. The scarlet will shoot at 3,000 lines. So it's gonna be hella-expensive.

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08-03-2008, 05:15 PM

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Are you sure? That thing looks like a flashlight! Wow. What are the specs on it? I didn't see any.

Surely you can't be serious. However.. if you are, go back to that site, and download the PDF, scroll to the bottom. That should be enough of an answer for you.

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08-03-2008, 05:15 PM

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