Noam Chomsky on Pornography

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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47880

    #51
    50 Chomsky quotes..
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    • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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      • Jul 2006
      • 3143

      #52
      Originally posted by Adult Creative Labs
      Chomsky is one of history's great minds, even though I think he's way off on this one and got totally owned by Foucault during that famous 70s debate.
      A lot of book knowledge and correlating obscure materials in a even more unreachable obscure manor is not a sign of high intelligence... Taking obscure materials and correlating them in a manor to ground ones own views in a manor that is easily understandable by the appropriate audience is a better indication of intelligence... DQ.

      I don't think the guy is dumb or miss understood, but I don't agree with his arguments.
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      • BSleazy
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        • Aug 2002
        • 6721

        #53
        Originally posted by Trixie
        Ugh. Being anti-porn and anti-sex work is like a cult that renders even the brilliant totally fucking retarded. Not much can be more humiliating & degrading to me as a woman than some smart ass pseudo-liberal pseudo-feminist telling me I'm too fucking dumb to know what I want to do or when I'm being humiliated & degraded.

        He makes it sound like I and women like me are just stupid animals who need real humans like him to do the thinking for us. It cracks me up that he can go around championing free speech when it comes to freaks who claim the holocaust never happened, but women's speech and their choices should be suppressed and limited.

        Couldn't even stand to watch the video but thanks for posting something that's actually thought provoking here on GFY.
        Did you label and brand yourself a "whore" or did someone else?
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        • pocketkangaroo
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          • Jan 2005
          • 8452

          #54
          Originally posted by AlienQ
          Naomi Suckonmycockski who?

          Out of touch Conservatives always say crazy shit like that.
          So do out of touch board personas who don't know that Chomsky is as liberal as Marx.

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          • Pnk XXX
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jan 2008
            • 263

            #55
            chomsky is the man!

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            • klinton
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2003
              • 8766

              #56
              Originally posted by cykoe6
              He is a radical leftist who supported Stalin, Mao and the Khmer Rouge and is the patron saint of anti-American leftist radicals worldwide.
              do you have any source on this ?

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              • Bossman
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                • Jun 2006
                • 1263

                #57
                Originally posted by JJota
                Thats true, far-left and far-right think the same on the porn issue.
                The left/right is a false dichotomy, since both of them requires a centralised powerfull state to take the individual freedom away.

                A more logical split in politics is between "collectives" (socialists, religious fundamentalists, statists) and "individuals". The collectives needs bigger and bigger state for their form of freedom to work, while the individual need a small state or no state for his/her freedom to work.

                Before people get this, then we are stuck with choosing between two sides (left/right) which are basicly the same, and individual freedom will continue to erode
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                • clickyoucutie
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 206

                  #58
                  Originally posted by AlienQ
                  Naomi Suckonmycockski who?

                  Out of touch Conservatives always say crazy shit like that.

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                  • cherrylula
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                    • Jan 2002
                    • 15969

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Brujah
                    He's not absolutely wrong though, there's still enough truth to what he's saying. Porn is one of the few career options that can attract those who are self-destructive and assist them in further destroying their lives.
                    Its still better than straight up hooking, although there can be a fine line sometimes...

                    at least porn can be a legit job.

                    edit: you can bunny ranch it I suppose.

                    nevermind.

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                    • GregE
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                      • Jul 2004
                      • 2704

                      #60
                      Originally posted by xmas13
                      I've always said far left and far right are equally lethal ideologies when it comes to adult business.
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                      • Malicious Biz
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                        • Mar 2005
                        • 4575

                        #61
                        Who gives a fuck what that old washed up commie has to say about anything.

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                        • Trixie
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1850

                          #62
                          Originally posted by BCyber
                          Did you label and brand yourself a "whore" or did someone else?
                          I did, and of course other people have called me a whore but not always with the same intentions and concept of what the word means. I sell a form of sexual access to me online, so I am a sex worker. When I say I'm a whore I don't mean that I'm a "sell-out" having compromised my ethics or morals. I am an example of a whore who defies the stereotype of someone who's been forced or coerced into sex work or has no other options available. I am proud of my work and think using the word provokes people who read my blog(s), surf and/or join my site(s) to rethink some of the stereotypes people have about whores.

                          Noam Chomsky should have a field day with what I imagine is a limited view of what one word can mean, or an assumption that it always means/is intended to bring to mind the worst connotation of the word (whore).
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                          • Viewfinder
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 407

                            #63
                            In my experience, ideologues of any stripe are rarely impressive people. They might be well read, well educated, and well spoken, but their irrational dedication to what are often soundly disproven ideas (like communism) make them no more impressive than religious fanatics, in my view. If your mind is not open to new information which may point away from your deeply cherished ideals and principles, I don't believe you can accurately be labeled as "smart."

                            On the issue of porn, I frankly am continually amazed at the number of people who seem to believe that humiliation and degradation are bad things in the context of sexuality. Many women AND men get off on being humiliated and degraded sexually, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that (anybody ever heard of dominatrix?). People like Chomsky suffer from the same thing many on the political right suffer from -- a bone chilling fear of personal liberty.

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                            • Trixie
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1850

                              #64
                              A blog entry I made a couple of years ago about porn, whores, sports & Chomsky:

                              http://tastytrixie.com/blog/2006/02/diversions.html
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                              • Spike D
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                                • Dec 2004
                                • 600

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Trixie
                                I did, and of course other people have called me a whore but not always with the same intentions and concept of what the word means. I sell a form of sexual access to me online, so I am a sex worker. When I say I'm a whore I don't mean that I'm a "sell-out" having compromised my ethics or morals. I am an example of a whore who defies the stereotype of someone who's been forced or coerced into sex work or has no other options available. I am proud of my work and think using the word provokes people who read my blog(s), surf and/or join my site(s) to rethink some of the stereotypes people have about whores.

                                Noam Chomsky should have a field day with what I imagine is a limited view of what one word can mean, or an assumption that it always means/is intended to bring to mind the worst connotation of the word (whore).
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                                • SilentKnight
                                  Megan Fox's fluffer
                                  • Oct 2005
                                  • 24812

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by cykoe6
                                  "The fact that women agreed to it and are paid is about as convincing as the fact that we should be in favor of sweatshops in China where woman are locked into the factory and work fifteen hours a day and then the factory burns down and they all die."
                                  Generally, I try not to generalize.

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                                  • klinton
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2003
                                    • 8766

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by klinton
                                    he is somehow right
                                    I mean that alot of pornography is just degrading to woman...i.e meatcash..... oh and it oftens make from people-> objects of sexual desire,not human...and this's degrading in some way, don't you think ?

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                                    • Cory W
                                      Deeply shallow
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 9133

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                      he has some brilliant thoughts on a lot of subjects but this is definitely not one of them.
                                      Yeah, he isn't an idiot.....
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                                      • Trixie
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                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 1850

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by klinton
                                        I mean that alot of pornography is just degrading to woman...i.e meatcash..... oh and it oftens make from people-> objects of sexual desire,not human...and this's degrading in some way, don't you think ?
                                        So you are only human if you're not sexually desirable? Call me crazy, but I thought that was a big part of BEING human.
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                                        • topnotch, standup guy
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                                          • Mar 2008
                                          • 1562

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by klinton
                                          I mean that alot of pornography is just degrading to woman...i.e meatcash..... oh and it oftens make from people-> objects of sexual desire,not human...and this's degrading in some way, don't you think ?
                                          God god man, you sound like Phil Donahue.

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