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  • Dirty F
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    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #1

    Sales reps - its time you start working on something new

    Better start building up something or look for a new job outside the industry soon. You will be needed less and less.

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  • Deej
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    • Jun 2005
    • 24386

    #2
    Just post tittes please...

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    • Deej
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      • Jun 2005
      • 24386

      #3


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      • tony299
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        • Aug 2002
        • 57021

        #4
        cool pic and that will suck for the reps. I hope for them its not true.

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        • fuzebox
          making it rain
          • Oct 2003
          • 22367

          #5
          I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

          How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

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          • C-Bass
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            • Apr 2003
            • 3153

            #6
            Originally posted by fuzebox
            I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

            How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?
            Couldnt have said it better myself
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            • BradM
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              • Dec 2003
              • 3397

              #7
              Originally posted by fuzebox
              I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

              How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?
              They don't.

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              • xmas13
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                • Dec 2004
                • 5176

                #8
                Originally posted by BradM
                They don't.
                Well-said.
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                • ADL Colin
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                  • Feb 2001
                  • 11929

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Deej


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                  • rowan
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                    • Mar 2002
                    • 17393

                    #10
                    Smart reps have their own traffic AND directly benefit from being able to learn about how good affiliates make sales...

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                    • SykkBoy2
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 19969

                      #11
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                      • pixovore
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                        • May 2005
                        • 1128

                        #12
                        Do you know an existing multi Brand Sales Rep?
                        I keep wondering why sales reps seems to be "monobranded" (pimped)
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                        • JamesK
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                          • Jun 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                          I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

                          How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?
                          Then again, why would you want to be a sales rep if you can make money off your network
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                          • kristin
                            GOO!
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 9768

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fuzebox
                            I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

                            How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?
                            I have worked with the hubby (TheDoc) on his programs and such, but I do not have MY OWN traffic network. I don't have a ton of time with kids and the random classes I take.

                            So after the office I'm online a lot at home but not doing my own traffic, just still doing my sales shit.

                            But I like to think I can help affiliates no problem ...
                            Vacares rules.

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                            • SomeCreep
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 26118

                              #15
                              Sales reps will always be needed. Especially for handling webmaster related support/issues and office work which pertains to the business.

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                              • Tjeezers
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                                • Mar 2007
                                • 16604

                                #16
                                Originally posted by fuzebox
                                I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

                                How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?
                                No wants to hire me... probably i`m over qualified
                                oohh no, i get always the question, why don`t you sell as affiliate for us instead of working for a salaray. it is never good

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                                • MOxxx
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                                  • Oct 2005
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                  I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

                                  How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?
                                  That's why they are sales rep ;)
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                                  • Klen
                                    • Aug 2006
                                    • 32234

                                    #18

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                                    • Voodoo
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                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 10600

                                      #19
                                      I'm about to launch my automated sales bot army.

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                                      • Iron Fist
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                                        • Dec 2006
                                        • 23400

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by fuzebox
                                        I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

                                        How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?
                                        Some posts are so good they deserve this..

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                                        • Voodoo
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                                          • Sep 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sharphead
                                          Some posts are so good they deserve this..


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                                          • biskoppen
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                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 5809

                                            #22
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                                            • SykkBoy2
                                              Jesus loves bacon
                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 19969

                                              #23
                                              multi-task sales reps will always be needed...
                                              those that can handle sales, support, backend shit, affiliate stuff, traffic management, etc.

                                              those used to be 2-3-4 separate people, now they have to be melded into one...
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                                              • Babaganoosh
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                                                • Nov 2001
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

                                                How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?
                                                Programs hire hot chicks to entertain poor, lonely, ass-chasing webmasters. Right now the only prerequisites for being an affiliate rep seem to be being female and a willingness to call webmasters hun and sweetie. 90% of webmasters eat that shit up. I almost never talk to an affiliate rep who knows even a fraction of what I know. What could someone like that possibly do to help me? A prerequisite for being an affiliate rep should be real experience in the business as well as operating their own websites.

                                                That's a catch-22 though. If they had the knowledge to make their sites a success they wouldn't need to be an affiliate rep. Unfortunately, no program would ever pay what someone who knows their shit would demand for their expertise.
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                                                • jimbowski
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                                                  • Nov 2005
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Deej

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                                                  • Nicky
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                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                    • 30071

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                    Programs hire hot chicks to entertain poor, lonely, ass-chasing webmasters. Right now the only prerequisites for being an affiliate rep seem to be being female and a willingness to call webmasters hun and sweetie. 90&#37; of webmasters eat that shit up. I almost never talk to an affiliate rep who knows even a fraction of what I know. What could someone like that possibly do to help me? A prerequisite for being an affiliate rep should be real experience in the business as well as operating their own websites.

                                                    That's a catch-22 though. If they had the knowledge to make their sites a success they wouldn't need to be an affiliate rep. Unfortunately, no program would ever pay what someone who knows their shit would demand for their expertise.
                                                    % deals can come a long way. Who the fuck hires a sales rep that have no insight in the biz and don't know what it's like to be an affiliate? Those are called board whores.

                                                    edit: sales rep is loose term though.
                                                    Last edited by Nicky; 07-30-2008, 04:47 PM.

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                                                    • Xrated J
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                                                      • Sep 2006
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                      I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

                                                      How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?
                                                      i have my own shit on the side

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                                                      • Scroto
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                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                        • 2804

                                                        #28
                                                        ive yet to come across any sales reps that have actually helped me lol

                                                        maybe im meeting the wrong ones

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                                                        • Nicky
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 30071

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Scroto
                                                          ive yet to come across any sales reps that have actually helped me lol

                                                          maybe im meeting the wrong ones
                                                          Some have helped me, usually that is just with content and site access etc. I'm not in that state that I have to ask an affiliate rep how to market their stuff, unless he is well-known for being good at SEO or something.

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                                                          • crockett
                                                            in a van by the river
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 76818

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Xrated J
                                                            i have my own shit on the side
                                                            I didn't know anyone else was in Daytona Beach.. besides BV anyway but he's south.
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                                                            • Robbie
                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 20960

                                                              #31
                                                              What is it that you guys need help with anyway? I've always figured WE as affiliates are supposed to already know how to market and work our own traffic. The only thing I need from a program is somebody to give me anything special I may need...which is rare. I'm not sure what you guys are exactly expecting from a programs affiliate rep.

                                                              They already have a webmaster area, hosted everything, and basically hold your hand. Back the clock up to the "good old days" that you hear everybody talking about...say late 1990's. They gave you NOTHING. We had to buy content. Build galleries. Host them ourselves and drive traffic too. Oh yeah...they gave us banners.

                                                              I'm just wondering what the complaint now is. And what more do you want from an affiliate rep. And if you happen to be one of our affiliates at SOLO SLUT CASH what more you might need from us.
                                                              -Robbie
                                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                              • crockett
                                                                in a van by the river
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 76818

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                What is it that you guys need help with anyway? I've always figured WE as affiliates are supposed to already know how to market and work our own traffic. The only thing I need from a program is somebody to give me anything special I may need...which is rare. I'm not sure what you guys are exactly expecting from a programs affiliate rep.

                                                                They already have a webmaster area, hosted everything, and basically hold your hand. Back the clock up to the "good old days" that you hear everybody talking about...say late 1990's. They gave you NOTHING. We had to buy content. Build galleries. Host them ourselves and drive traffic too. Oh yeah...they gave us banners.

                                                                I'm just wondering what the complaint now is. And what more do you want from an affiliate rep. And if you happen to be one of our affiliates at SOLO SLUT CASH what more you might need from us.
                                                                Yea that's pretty much the way I look at it. The only time I contact a sale rep, is if something wrong.
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                                                                • tony299
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 57021

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                  What is it that you guys need help with anyway? I've always figured WE as affiliates are supposed to already know how to market and work our own traffic. The only thing I need from a program is somebody to give me anything special I may need...which is rare. I'm not sure what you guys are exactly expecting from a programs affiliate rep.

                                                                  They already have a webmaster area, hosted everything, and basically hold your hand. Back the clock up to the "good old days" that you hear everybody talking about...say late 1990's. They gave you NOTHING. We had to buy content. Build galleries. Host them ourselves and drive traffic too. Oh yeah...they gave us banners.

                                                                  I'm just wondering what the complaint now is. And what more do you want from an affiliate rep. And if you happen to be one of our affiliates at SOLO SLUT CASH what more you might need from us.
                                                                  I figured the hosting, you had to buy the content also?

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                                                                  • Robbie
                                                                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 20960

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                                    I figured the hosting, you had to buy the content also?
                                                                    Oh yeah...we used to have to buy content discs and make galleries. And I'd make up some wild bullshit about what the girl did in the site. And of course, the girl wasn't even IN that site! LOL!
                                                                    Later on, Max Cash started SELLING content to their affiliates. I still have one of those old discs.
                                                                    But yeah, it was pretty much everybody buying the cheapest old content you could find. Then shuffling through thousands of pics to make a "teen" gallery or an "amateur" gallery.
                                                                    Fortunately it didn't really matter if you made a sale back then.

                                                                    The members areas were just an afterthought and the entire business ran on the three or four big companies at the time selling traffic to each other through the 50 million pop ups that they had on their sites. You sent some traffic to a Max Cash site and there would be a popup with 100 ARS sites on it! LOL!

                                                                    So they basically would just say "oh you made 650 sales this month at $40 per sale" Even though you probably didn't make any

                                                                    The good old days...
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                                                                    • Scroto
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                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                      • 2804

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Nicky
                                                                      Some have helped me, usually that is just with content and site access etc. I'm not in that state that I have to ask an affiliate rep how to market their stuff, unless he is well-known for being good at SEO or something.
                                                                      I agree, same here.. just access or content question, but thats about it..

                                                                      I just could have worded my reply a lot better

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                                                                      • fuzebox
                                                                        making it rain
                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 22367

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                        What is it that you guys need help with anyway? I've always figured WE as affiliates are supposed to already know how to market and work our own traffic. The only thing I need from a program is somebody to give me anything special I may need...which is rare. I'm not sure what you guys are exactly expecting from a programs affiliate rep.
                                                                        It was just an observation mostly, I never need anything from any affiliate reps. But then again when you post a bad ratio on GFY the very first thing they say is "how come you didn't contact us?"...

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                                                                        • Xrated J
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                                                                          • Sep 2006
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                          I didn't know anyone else was in Daytona Beach.. besides BV anyway but he's south.
                                                                          born and raised.

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                                                                          • Deej
                                                                            I make pixels work
                                                                            • Jun 2005
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            K, i posted titty pics Here

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                                                                            • Robbie
                                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 20960

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                              It was just an observation mostly, I never need anything from any affiliate reps. But then again when you post a bad ratio on GFY the very first thing they say is "how come you didn't contact us?"...
                                                                              That's true...I guess a little "damage control" is probably part of the gig too. Makes sense.
                                                                              -Robbie
                                                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                              • Iron Fist
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Dec 2006
                                                                                • 23400

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Sales reps are like forum moderators

                                                                                Uh oh...
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                                                                                • XoXo Cash
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                                                                                  • Jun 2008
                                                                                  • 257

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                  I didn't know anyone else was in Daytona Beach.. besides BV anyway but he's south.
                                                                                  actually....that makes 3 of us
                                                                                  bunch of freaks in this town i suppose lol
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                                                                                  • wanted
                                                                                    Certified Asshole
                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                    • 896

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                    Smart reps have their own traffic AND directly benefit from being able to learn about how good affiliates make sales...
                                                                                    I've been wondering the same for years..
                                                                                    Living the dream.

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                                                                                    • mynameisjim
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                      • 2985

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I think the only time I contact reps is when I need a password reset or site access or some other thing like that. I almost never ask for sales help because the response is usually pretty worthless.

                                                                                      Not saying all, but most. A few programs I've worked with the sales rep has his own network on the side and you can spot those guys pretty quick after just a quick conversation.

                                                                                      But you could say the same about Google. Their adsense reps don't seem too eager to give up the goods on tricks and techniques. But maybe I'm just too small for them care.
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                                                                                      • XoXo Cash
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                                                                                        • Jun 2008
                                                                                        • 257

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                                        Programs hire hot chicks to entertain poor, lonely, ass-chasing webmasters. Right now the only prerequisites for being an affiliate rep seem to be being female and a willingness to call webmasters hun and sweetie. 90% of webmasters eat that shit up.

                                                                                        HA...I got a great laugh from this one, sweetie!!! ;)

                                                                                        but yeah... content info., access passes, and a bit of damage control are definitely part of what i do. im kind of like the secretary/customer service chick at the front of the office that keeps everything organized, knows all of the ins and outs about whats going on on a daily basis, makes sure that any and all loose ends are tied up and taken care of, keeps up with contacts, and filters out all of the bullshit.
                                                                                        my name is carly...i'm the affiliate rep for xoxocash.com...feel free to contact me any time at [email protected] if you think i could possibly be of any use to you and make things run just a little bit smoother than anything else that you've had the pleasure of dealing with during your hectic day thanks huh!!
                                                                                        Leah - XoXoLeah
                                                                                        Affiliate program - XoXoCash
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                                                                                        • Altheon
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                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                          • 506

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Best line I ever heard from a rep at a show:

                                                                                          Me: "So what did you do before you became a rep?"
                                                                                          Rep: "Unemployed."

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                                                                                          • 2012
                                                                                            So Fucking What
                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                            • 17189

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by doodoo
                                                                                            ... and GOOD DAY sir !
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                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 76818

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by XoXo Cash
                                                                                              actually....that makes 3 of us
                                                                                              bunch of freaks in this town i suppose lol
                                                                                              oh well hell send Leah over..
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                                                                                              • NinjaSteve
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                                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                                • 11089

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by sharphead
                                                                                                Some posts are so good they deserve this..



                                                                                                Originally posted by Voodoo
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                                                                                                • NinjaSteve
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                  • 11089

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  You know what I haven't figured out? Why don't most people (owners/reps/whoever) touch base with affiliates that send traffic? It's not that hard to figure out where your sales are coming from especially with so many programs using nats. It's not tough to say If an affiliate sends you 20-30 sales in a month and then backs off, you should be asking why. As an affiliate manager, that's your job.

                                                                                                  I think that's where Metal Cash really steps up to the plate. They've messaged me to ask when, why, how, and so on. That's what I call true professionalism.
                                                                                                  ...

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                                                                                                  • rowan
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                                    • 17393

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by JamesK
                                                                                                    Then again, why would you want to be a sales rep if you can make money off your network
                                                                                                    Reverse engineering

                                                                                                    I'm sure the large programs have at least one staff member who is good at figuring out how their top affiliates make money.

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