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  • theking
    Nice Kitty
    • Sep 2002
    • 21053

    #1

    7 December

    ...a day that will live in infamy. I salute all the comrades of old as well as the new that are currently serving. God bless America!
    When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

    FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html
  • $money$
    So Fucking Banned
    • Nov 2015
    • 1416

    #2
    Thanks for serving TheKing

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    • Rochard
      Jägermeister Test Pilot
      • Dec 2001
      • 75733

      #3
      It's been said that the man who planned the attack on Pear Harbor (Isoroku Yamamoto) said ""I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." If he did say this or something similar, it was very true. Japan completely underestimated the Untied States in all areas, including manpower, resolve, and material and manufacturing - We could physically build ships as fast they could sink them and we had nearly unlimited resources.

      Germany did the same with Russia - Russia was huge and vast, and had unlimited manpower.

      Attacking Pearl Harbor was the biggest military mistake of all time.
      Herschel Savage
      Brooklyn, NY

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      • Ferus
        Bye - Left to do stuff
        • Feb 2013
        • 4102

        #4
        Originally posted by Rochard
        It's been said that the man who planned the attack on Pear Harbor (Isoroku Yamamoto) said ""I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." If he did say this or something similar, it was very true. Japan completely underestimated the Untied States in all areas, including manpower, resolve, and material and manufacturing - We could physically build ships as fast they could sink them and we had nearly unlimited resources.

        Germany did the same with Russia - Russia was huge and vast, and had unlimited manpower.

        Attacking Pearl Harbor was the biggest military mistake of all time.

        Do you have some sort of board-watch script, that alerts you anytime there is something remotely close to defence/arms related, so you can come and regurgitate your brainwashed talking points?

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        • SuckOnThis
          So Fucking Banned
          • Oct 2003
          • 6844

          #5
          You're a day early.


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          • Matt-ADX
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2015
            • 1497

            #6
            Originally posted by JohnnyClips
            What happened on December 7th?
            David Beckham scored his first Goal for United on the 7th 1994. Imagine that's what they talking about

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            • Vendzilla
              Biker Gnome
              • Mar 2004
              • 23200

              #7
              Originally posted by Ferus
              Do you have some sort of board-watch script, that alerts you anytime there is something remotely close to defence/arms related, so you can come and regurgitate your brainwashed talking points?
              Are you just a dick with a board watch script that alerts you to when Rochard posts anything?
              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
              think about that

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              • Vendzilla
                Biker Gnome
                • Mar 2004
                • 23200

                #8
                While living in Pearl Harbor when I was in the Navy, we would go out to ford island for different kinds of training and you can still see the bullet holes left over from that attack. One of the main points that the Japanese used for navigation was the dive tower on the sub base, my barracks were right next to that.

                Also, Sunday, 7 December 1941, the USS Tautog SS199 was at the Submarine Base when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. Within minutes of the first Japanese bomb explosions on Ford Island, Tautog's gun crews went into action and, with the help of Narwhal (SS-167) and a destroyer, shot down a Japanese torpedo bomber as it came over Merry Point. The Tautog went on to sink more tonnage than any other submarine or any other ship in ww2. The submarine I was on was the USS Tautog, SSN 639.

                In WW2, Submarines made up 2 % of the fleet and sank around 90% of the ships( By Tonnage)
                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                think about that

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                • theking
                  Nice Kitty
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 21053

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                  While living in Pearl Harbor when I was in the Navy, we would go out to ford island for different kinds of training and you can still see the bullet holes left over from that attack. One of the main points that the Japanese used for navigation was the dive tower on the sub base, my barracks were right next to that.

                  Also, Sunday, 7 December 1941, the USS Tautog SS199 was at the Submarine Base when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. Within minutes of the first Japanese bomb explosions on Ford Island, Tautog's gun crews went into action and, with the help of Narwhal (SS-167) and a destroyer, shot down a Japanese torpedo bomber as it came over Merry Point. The Tautog went on to sink more tonnage than any other submarine or any other ship in ww2. The submarine I was on was the USS Tautog, SSN 639.

                  In WW2, Submarines made up 2 % of the fleet and sank around 90% of the ships( By Tonnage)
                  Interesting read.
                  When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                  FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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                  • Ferus
                    Bye - Left to do stuff
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 4102

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                    Are you just a dick with a board watch script that alerts you to when Rochard posts anything?
                    ohhh, my favorite internet-tough guy! how are you my chubby rockstar ?
                    No, I dont have such script. My postcount would be higher if I had.

                    So to answer your question: "No - I'm just a dick without a script"

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                    • nico-t
                      emperor of my world
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 29901

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rochard
                      Attacking Pearl Harbor was the biggest military mistake of all time.
                      One would think that illegally invading vietnam and iraq are quite high on the list of military mistakes as well, but please, never lose your naive romantic world view

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                      • bronco67
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 29026

                        #12
                        oh...that's why that piece of crap Pearl harbor movie was on today when I was flipping channels during lunch. Of course I watched some of it.

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                        • bronco67
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 29026

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                          While living in Pearl Harbor when I was in the Navy, we would go out to ford island for different kinds of training and you can still see the bullet holes left over from that attack. One of the main points that the Japanese used for navigation was the dive tower on the sub base, my barracks were right next to that.

                          Also, Sunday, 7 December 1941, the USS Tautog SS199 was at the Submarine Base when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. Within minutes of the first Japanese bomb explosions on Ford Island, Tautog's gun crews went into action and, with the help of Narwhal (SS-167) and a destroyer, shot down a Japanese torpedo bomber as it came over Merry Point. The Tautog went on to sink more tonnage than any other submarine or any other ship in ww2. The submarine I was on was the USS Tautog, SSN 639.

                          In WW2, Submarines made up 2 % of the fleet and sank around 90% of the ships( By Tonnage)
                          Barber's Point 1988 to 1992.

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                          • theking
                            Nice Kitty
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 21053

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rochard
                            It's been said that the man who planned the attack on Pear Harbor (Isoroku Yamamoto) said ""I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." If he did say this or something similar, it was very true. Japan completely underestimated the Untied States in all areas, including manpower, resolve, and material and manufacturing - We could physically build ships as fast they could sink them and we had nearly unlimited resources.

                            Germany did the same with Russia - Russia was huge and vast, and had unlimited manpower.

                            Attacking Pearl Harbor was the biggest military mistake of all time.
                            He also supposedly said something along the lines of...he could raise hell for about six months and then the tide would turn and that was also the case. It is my understanding that the Japanese never intended to defeat the U.S. but instead intended to keep us at bay long enough for them to consolidate their hold on other Asian countries and then sue us for peace. What they did not expect at all was our demand for their "unconditional surrender"...which demand was ultimately agreed to but did prolong the war with them.
                            When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                            FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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                            • Vendzilla
                              Biker Gnome
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 23200

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bronco67
                              Barber's Point 1988 to 1992.
                              Nice, I was there from 79 to 82 in Pearl, home ported
                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                              think about that

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                              • Vendzilla
                                Biker Gnome
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 23200

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Ferus
                                ohhh, my favorite internet-tough guy! how are you my chubby rockstar ?
                                No, I dont have such script. My postcount would be higher if I had.

                                So to answer your question: "No - I'm just a dick without a script"
                                Thanx for proving my point troll!
                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                think about that

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                                • Vendzilla
                                  Biker Gnome
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 23200

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by theking
                                  Interesting read.
                                  Living in pearl harbor, you can't help but learn it's history. It's a beautiful base
                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                  think about that

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                                  • Vendzilla
                                    Biker Gnome
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 23200

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by nico-t
                                    One would think that illegally invading vietnam and iraq are quite high on the list of military mistakes as well, but please, never lose your naive romantic world view
                                    Japans attack resulted in the US dropping 2 nukes on them, I think they win, but please never lose your naive romantic world view!
                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                    think about that

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                                    • nico-t
                                      emperor of my world
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 29901

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                      Japans attack resulted in the US dropping 2 nukes on them, I think they win
                                      So if you nuke citizens you win? And you think thats a good thing?

                                      Brainwashed idiot.

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                                      • Vendzilla
                                        Biker Gnome
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 23200

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by nico-t
                                        So if you nuke citizens you win? And you think thats a good thing?

                                        Brainwashed idiot.
                                        Having problems with the English language idiot? I said "they" win, what a fucking moron!
                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                        think about that

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                                        • nico-t
                                          emperor of my world
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 29901

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                          Having problems with the English language idiot? I said "they" win, what a fucking moron!
                                          the gnome in your avatar was a great pick to represent you: His head is hollow as well

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                                          • Vendzilla
                                            Biker Gnome
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 23200

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by nico-t
                                            the gnome in your avatar was a great pick to represent you: His head is hollow as well
                                            You have absolutely no creativity do you? that was pretty lame.
                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                            think about that

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                                            • nico-t
                                              emperor of my world
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 29901

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                              You have absolutely no creativity do you? that was pretty lame.
                                              to be honest i laughed out loud when i typed that

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                                              • Vendzilla
                                                Biker Gnome
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 23200

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by nico-t
                                                to be honest i laughed out loud when i typed that
                                                Well that makes one of you
                                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                think about that

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                                                • Rochard
                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 75733

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Ferus
                                                  Do you have some sort of board-watch script, that alerts you anytime there is something remotely close to defence/arms related, so you can come and regurgitate your brainwashed talking points?
                                                  No.

                                                  I just watch the board. I love military stuff; I live for WWII stuff.
                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                  • Rochard
                                                    Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                    • 75733

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by theking
                                                    He also supposedly said something along the lines of...he could raise hell for about six months and then the tide would turn and that was also the case. It is my understanding that the Japanese never intended to defeat the U.S. but instead intended to keep us at bay long enough for them to consolidate their hold on other Asian countries and then sue us for peace. What they did not expect at all was our demand for their "unconditional surrender"...which demand was ultimately agreed to but did prolong the war with them.
                                                    That was exactly what their goal was. They didn't want to take on the United States directly, but instead destroy the US Pacific fleet so they could could continue their rampage through the Pacific for six months to a year.

                                                    The biggest blunder was they missed all of the US aircraft carriers - None of them were in port that morning. While the attack was a huge blow to the Pacific Fleet, with the three aircraft carriers still running around the US never really lost it's footing and was able to attack a short time later.
                                                    Herschel Savage
                                                    Brooklyn, NY

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                                                    • Rochard
                                                      Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 75733

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by nico-t
                                                      One would think that illegally invading vietnam and iraq are quite high on the list of military mistakes as well, but please, never lose your naive romantic world view
                                                      I don't believe our involvement in Vietnam or Iraq was illegal.

                                                      First off you can argue it's never illegal to wage war. There is no international law that says "you cannot wage war" or that it is illegal to do. When Saddam attacked and raped Kuwait, it wasn't illegal.

                                                      I don't believe our involvement in Vietnam was wrong. At the time, we feared communism. Communism was coming to get us, and we had to stop them in their tracks. If we failed to stop them, all of Asia would fall to communism. This was unacceptable at the time. Right now we are debating here on GFY what the United States / NATO / Western World should do about Muslim Extremeists - Not very much different than how we felt in the late 1960s.

                                                      As for Iraq, you are right - what happened in Iraq was illegal. Iraq violated a peace treaty. Most people forget what happened there - Iraq invaded Kuwait, we went into Kuwait and kicked their asses, and the Iraqis signed a peace treaty - which they violated.

                                                      I don't have a "naive romantic world view". I love military history.
                                                      Herschel Savage
                                                      Brooklyn, NY

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