I swear, so help me god, that if they strike on Friday I will do everything within my power to never watch another baseball game, for at least a couple of years.
Your right!! Football season has arrived.
Those greedy as baseball players are ruining their own gig.
Originally posted by jreaka Am I the only one fed up with baseball?
Fuck'em it's football season!!!!!!!!
You are not alone! Baseball should strike already, I'm sick of hearing the threats...
Thank god for Football season!
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Originally posted by JConway I swear, so help me god, that if they strike on Friday I will do everything within my power to never watch another baseball game, for at least a couple of years.
Your right!! Football season has arrived.
Those greedy as baseball players are ruining their own gig.
At the risk of starting a war here, I have to disagree with you. It is the owners that are fucking this up, not the players. If the owners hadn't tried to put restrictions on players salaries, there would be no strike. As a matter of fact the ONLY times that the players have walked off it was because the owners have been trying to take away what the union had won, and the owners had agreed to in previous negotiations. Just my 2 cents.
At the risk of starting a war here, I have to disagree with you. It is the owners that are fucking this up, not the players. If the owners hadn't tried to put restrictions on players salaries, there would be no strike. As a matter of fact the ONLY times that the players have walked off it was because the owners have been trying to take away what the union had won, and the owners had agreed to in previous negotiations. Just my 2 cents.
Dude they are both at fault! They are fighting over how to split millions of dollars.....fuck the owners,players,batboys,hotdog guy,beer guy...okay mabe not the beer guy, GM,ground keeper...fuck em all!!!!
Dude they are both at fault! They are fighting over how to split millions of dollars.....fuck the owners,players,batboys,hotdog guy,beer guy...okay mabe not the beer guy, GM,ground keeper...fuck em all!!!!
At the risk of starting a war here, I have to disagree with you. It is the owners that are fucking this up, not the players. If the owners hadn't tried to put restrictions on players salaries, there would be no strike. As a matter of fact the ONLY times that the players have walked off it was because the owners have been trying to take away what the union had won, and the owners had agreed to in previous negotiations. Just my 2 cents.
salary cap and luxury taxes are a must, it will stay like it is now, Yankee Vs World.
Football is the proof, it works. and player are not underpaid, not by a long shot.
But I agree, HOCKEY is what gets my blood going!
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At the risk of starting a war here, I have to disagree with you. It is the owners that are fucking this up, not the players. If the owners hadn't tried to put restrictions on players salaries, there would be no strike. As a matter of fact the ONLY times that the players have walked off it was because the owners have been trying to take away what the union had won, and the owners had agreed to in previous negotiations. Just my 2 cents.
If they don't do something to bring the salaries down, baseball won't exist professionally, because there will only be about 4 owners who can afford to get talent. As stated earlier it will be the yankees vs. the other collective team.
salary cap and luxury taxes are a must, it will stay like it is now, Yankee Vs World.
The Okland A's 40 million dollar sallary and they win all the time. Twins 40 million dollar sallary in first place.
Texas Rangers 100 million in last place. NY Mets 100 million in last place.
You still need to spend the money the right way, or you WILL lose.
I do agree they need a luxury tax, but it's not the end all to be all. Not even close. Moverover, the players didn't ask for anything more. Just status Quo! While the owners can't help themselves, so they want the players to do it for them.
Was it the players association that gave A-Rod 25 million per year? Was it the players that gave Hampton, and Brown 150 million dollar contracts? NO
If they strike they can stick the game up their ass, but it's more the owners fault then the players!! By Far!
The Okland A's 40 million dollar sallary and they win all the time. Twins 40 million dollar sallary in first place.
Texas Rangers 100 million in last place. NY Mets 100 million in last place.
You still need to spend the money the right way, or you WILL lose.
I do agree they need a luxury tax, but it's not the end all to be all. Not even close. Moverover, the players didn't ask for anything more. Just status Quo! While the owners can't help themselves, so they want the players to do it for them.
Was it the players association that gave A-Rod 25 million per year? Was it the players that gave Hampton, and Brown 150 million dollar contracts? NO
If they strike they can stick the game up their ass, but it's more the owners fault then the players!! By Far!
Great point Chris......but what gets me is they are ALL have millions and they screw with the loyal fans when they do shit like this. It is just getting to the point where I want to say fuck it...And I LOVE baseball, it's the greatest sport in the world to relax, catch a brew and enjoy the sun.
Baseball used to be my favorite sport when I was younger, but the outright greed and financial disarray the sport is in has lessened my interest tremendously. My hunch is that they'll avert this thing because they're all aware this could devastate the sport.
Screw it anyway. Football is here! The Dolphins are going places this year, and we have the best college football in the country down here with the 'Canes, Gators and "Noles.
I hated the '94 strike, but in this one I see the point of a lot of the problems..I agree a luxury tax will help, but they also need more revenue sharing otherwise smaller market teams will be hard pressed to compete with larger market teams...
I do side with the players on some issues...and the owners on others...
The owners are the ones who keep paying the big salaries and then bitch about it....they kept expanding the league to get that $150 per team franchise fee from new teams and diluted the talent pool so that some guy who would be stacking lumber and playing on the company softball team is pitching with a bloated 6.50 ERA and making the league minimum of $200K per year...
It does seem odd with billionaire owners (who can seem to profit at any business except baseball) fighting with millionaire owners...
but as far as blaoted salaries, what is wrong with paying the best players the most money? A-Rod got a 10 year $250 million contract, but if not for him, how many people would be attending Rangers games now? How many asses does he put in seats? He's one of the best if not the best in the game...shouldn't he be paid accordingly? Barry Bonds one of the best ever....maybe he's underpaid? Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, Curt Shilling, Tom Glavine...the elite of pitching and all certain hall of famers...shouldn't they be commanding and getting the largest salaries?
My problem with salary caps is that it tells a business owner that he can't spend over a certain amount...imagine if there were a porn salary cap and you had to stop earning income at a certain level...and I don't recall a salary cap stopping the Lakers from rolling through the competition last year...
Just because they are in a higher tax bracket, doesn't mean they don't deserve the same labor considerations as the auto workers in Detroit or the steel workers in Pittsburg or even the Wal-Mart employees who are tryin to get some changes brought about....
My favorite argument is "they are getting paid millions to play a kids game" oh really? Since when does a kids game earn several billions per year? These athletes bust their asses night in and night out and only a very tiny percentage ever make it...my friend Lumpy FatFuck on the sofa isn't exactly going to be pitching for the Braves anytime soon...
The sad thing is, even a shitty team can still sell at a whopping profit...I don't see anyone bitching about that....Wayne Herzinga owned the Marlins, spent like a maniac to build this amazing team, won a world series, gutted the team the next year and sold it the next year for a stunning profit...who did the most damage to baseball? him or the "crybaby millionaire players" who accepted the money he was offering?
A strike will most certainly piss me off but in the end, players will come and go, but I will always be a baseball fan....
did anyone see the Little League World Series? Stunning....damn, I love baseball...
football? um, I only watch 2-3 games per year, yet love to bet on it, so weee, gambling season is back.......
My only arguement is if you are going to pay someone 25 million per year, it better be a pitcher!
Also, who the fuck was Tom Hicks bidding against? The offer from the Braves was 19 million per year. So why did the Rangers give him 25? Why not 20? How about 19.5? Again, it's the owners that can't control themselves!! Always has been.
The owners have to front the money. If you have no talent, you don't win games, if you don't win games, if you don't win games you don't fill the seats, if you don't fill the seats you don't make money, if you don't make money you can't compete with the large market teams for talent.... and so the cycle goes. Baseball is screwed unless they do something in a hurry.
Originally posted by JConway The owners have to front the money. If you have no talent, you don't win games, if you don't win games, if you don't win games you don't fill the seats, if you don't fill the seats you don't make money, if you don't make money you can't compete with the large market teams for talent.... and so the cycle goes. Baseball is screwed unless they do something in a hurry.
Well then someone better tell the Oakland A's, and the Minnesota Twins that they better stop winning all these games because they aren't supposed to be able to compete with their 40 million dollar payroll. You can't buy a championship if you spen the money wrong! Look at my Mets, or the Rangers. Big market, plenty of money. LAST PLACE!
I went to a Yankee game two weeks ago, $62.00 per ticket from the box office. $6.50 for a hot dog, $7.50 for a beer. I'm paying for the damn team.
If you can't compete. Then you should be contracted!
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