Is Paying For Sex Bad?

This will be my last argument with you in this thread, I won't push my standards upon you anymore. Apart from the fact that I think it's wrong to pay for sex in third world countries as a westerner, I think with your 20 years or something and no non-paid experience with girls you're a bit young and unexperienced to think you're on the right path, lol.

Wrong. The only measure of "success" in evolutionary biology is the extent to which one succeeds in passing on ones own genes. As long as screwing hookers does not limit the amount of children one produces, it is irrelevant whether one does so or not.

More importantly, however, it is important to keep in mind that natural law is not a behavioral code. Evolutionary biology merely states that if one produces much offspring, ones genes will be passed on.

This is completely unrelated to the social view of "success". A deadbeat father who gets hundreds of women pregnant is the pinnacle of evolutionary success. In terms of evolution, Lateeqa, the 16 year old mother with 5 children, is extremely successful.

In fact, the rapist who gets his victims pregnant is following a "successful" strategy - in terms of evolution.

Biology doesn't say what one should do. I merely investigates the mechanisms of nature.



If the women choose to work as prostitutes, rather than earn far less money with other work, what business of yours is it?

Prostitutes are humans, humans with a free will and all. If they choose to become prostitutes over their other options, that is their right. Profiting from someone else's choices is not abuse.

If you want to argue that their financial situation takes away their freedom of choice, it is the system which caused them to be in such a financial situation that is abusive, rather than their clients. What you think is "right" is taking away what they apparently see as their best option, without offering an alternative.

The only thing that helps is actually offering viable alternatives. Arguing that their livelihood should be taken away because it's "abusive" to them is sickeningly stupid.

"Don't have sex with prostitutes and give them money. Instead, stay away from them, so they have no money at all."

Great thinking there



Considering the large percentage of men who at some point in their lives have sex with a prostitute, one can safely say that positive morality does in fact not forbid it at all. Rather, it's a taboo - something that isn't necessarily an unacceptable practice, but rather an unacceptable topic at the dinner table. Much like BDSM, porn, fistfucking, etc.

Your last comment pretty much exposes the problem here, though. You feel that if a woman has sex in exchange for money, she loses her dignity. In other words, you don't respect prostitutes.

You are in fact the biggest misogynist in this thread. You don't respect women if they don't live up to your naive views of decency, feel that they should be protected from their own choices, and are unable to accept that merely working as a prostitute does not make a woman a lesser person in any way.

It's only bad if it gets you arrested, so choose your words wisely.

You can always bend words to your advantage if only you try hard enough. In the animal kingdom (excluding humans) there's no such thing as money. Females are seduced by good looks or bravery, not by cold hard cash. It is clearly a sign that one lacks either the ability or the natural drive to persuade females to have intercourse with them, when one has to pay for it.

You can always bend words to your advantage if only you try hard enough. In the animal kingdom (excluding humans) there's no such thing as money. Females are seduced by good looks or bravery, not by cold hard cash. It is clearly a sign that one lacks either the ability or the natural drive to persuade females to have intercourse with them, when one has to pay for it.

Now, to say this is good or bad would be foolish and it isn't as applicable to our society as it would have been thousands of years ago, but as most people still do have certain more basic evolutionary instincts, I expect they are objectively sensitive to such viewpoints. This is not an ethical argument, if you thought so.

My argumentation is weak and more than a little flawed, but yours is simply self-serving.

You haven't read what I wrote. I'm not squarely against prostitution, I'm against prostitution in obviously abusive situations. Calling me a misogynist is premature and distracts from the point. You're conveniently misusing the fact that I think that many people can indeed not take the right decisions for themselves. Abusing this has nothing to do with respect.

Paying for pleasure ROCKS!

Three cheers for libertine's responses to Rhesus.

FYI: I know a few women who've used CL to turn tricks: none of them had/have pimps, none of them were/are streetworkers. They are/were regular chicks (some college-educated) making some money on the side. Not saying that doesn't exist on CL, it's just not at all what my friend's experiences have been with it.

Why give it away for free if you can sell it?

If you find a chick let's say on CL and you fuck her and see her on a regular basis is that bad? You trust her and get along and there is some chemistry.

Some people don't have time for dates and just want to fuck. Taking a girl out for a week could cost well over $150, more than it would cost you to hookup with a hottie on CL.

What do you guys think?