AVNChris says it was silly of XBIZ to give away free registration, what do YOU think?

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  • Due
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    • Mar 2001
    • 3620

    #101
    Originally posted by TubingHARDEST
    buy my tubing products.
    In one of my showers I have only cold water, I need a hot tube I think, how much for a hot tube?
    I buy plugs
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    • Connor
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      • Feb 2003
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      #102
      Originally posted by Sly
      Interesting comparison, LOL.I was merely commenting on the perception that others may be getting from the responses of this thread. You may want to think about that.
      Which is? That most people are for "free registrations"? This isn't news to me, but the popular opinion isn't always the ONLY opinion.


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      • KRosh
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        • Nov 2001
        • 5114

        #103
        Shows are dangerous?
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        • KRosh
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          • Nov 2001
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          #104
          oooooopps
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          • TheAmericanCannibal
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            #105
            Originally posted by Connor
            I know you're not, and I'm not either... I'm just saying that if $120 registration is the deciding factor in whether or not to attend a show, either a) times are really tough, or b) it's not REALLY a factor but why not take the free cheese if you can get it. That's just my honest opinion.

            HEY i can say this much....

            XBIZ may have been a free show, but I left and spent more money in Vegas this trip than any other trip i have ever had in January in 11 years.

            I was there half as long as the AVN show in Jan as well as the rooms in January are $600 a night- I still spent more at the Hard Rock than ever.

            I enjoyed this trip immensely too-

            I could eat at NOBU every night of the week.

            But If I ever split 8's and get another 8 and a deuce - double down, and lose to a black jack again.... I am going to jump off the fucking roof face first into the concrete

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            • HELMY
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              • Aug 2002
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              #106
              Originally posted by KRosh
              Shows are dangerous?

              LOL
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              • Juicy D. Links
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                • Apr 2001
                • 122992

                #107
                Originally posted by TheAmericanCannibal

                But If I ever split 8's and get another 8 and a deuce - double down, and lose to a black jack again.... I am going to jump off the fucking roof face first into the concrete

                lolll how many times i told u that if you play BJ u have to play with me on the table to help you loll.... i took hard rock for ass romp last time , we got a system we use bizzzzleee its all about placing the approp amount on a bet at the best time .... bizzzzzzzzzzzzzle

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                • Connor
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Sly
                  Your show is always great, either way... :-)
                  Thanks Sly.


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                  • Anthony
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                    • Feb 2001
                    • 9653

                    #109
                    Originally posted by Connor
                    Wow, times are really THAT tough for you guys? Sorry to hear that.
                    That's fucked up. Really fucked up. I just committed to sponsoring the Atlanta Forum. Ynot has lost my business in any capacity. I won't be associated with some dickhead who thinks it's okay to post negative and libelous statments about my business, as you have so easily did with my friend and business associates at Sexentertain.

                    I'm curious Connor, other than Ynot, what else have you run?

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                    • Connor
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                      • Feb 2003
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Anthony
                      That's fucked up. Really fucked up. I just committed to sponsoring the Atlanta Forum. Ynot has lost my business in any capacity. I won't be associated with some dickhead who thinks it's okay to post negative and libelous statments about my business, as you have so easily did with my friend and business associates at Sexentertain.

                      I'm curious Connor, other than Ynot, what else have you run?
                      Haha... wow. Sorry to see you go. ;)


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                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                        • Mar 2003
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                        #111
                        Originally posted by HELMY
                        LOL
                        Ya can laugh now, but watch someone will get shot at one of these parties someday.
                        The violence at each show increases each year.

                        Figure out why and save a life instead of laughing.

                        It not to funny really.

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                        • Connor
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #112
                          Originally posted by TheAmericanCannibal
                          HEY i can say this much....

                          XBIZ may have been a free show, but I left and spent more money in Vegas this trip than any other trip i have ever had in January in 11 years.

                          I was there half as long as the AVN show in Jan as well as the rooms in January are $600 a night- I still spent more at the Hard Rock than ever.

                          I enjoyed this trip immensely too-

                          I could eat at NOBU every night of the week.

                          But If I ever split 8's and get another 8 and a deuce - double down, and lose to a black jack again.... I am going to jump off the fucking roof face first into the concrete
                          I hear you man... and yup, hard to go to Vegas and not spend. I spent a ton there in January... but the hell with it, it's a fun place to visit. But you need to play poker, not blackjack. ;)


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                          • Sly
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                            • Sep 2004
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                            #113
                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                            Ya can laugh now, but watch someone will get shot at one of these parties someday.
                            The violence at each show increases each year.

                            Figure out why and save a life instead of laughing.

                            It not to funny really.
                            Oh man I know... the last show I was at, the violence was so bad that I left in a wheelchair.

                            Something definitely must be done about this issue.
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                            • Don Pueblo
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                              #114
                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                              Ya can laugh now, but watch someone will get shot at one of these parties someday.
                              The violence at each show increases each year.

                              Figure out why and save a life instead of laughing.

                              It not to funny really.
                              I am a big webmaster. Who are you? Are you a big guy in this business like I am. I like big things. You have a big, pretty mouth.
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                              • GonZo
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #115
                                Originally posted by KRosh
                                Shows are dangerous?
                                What would you expect him to say?

                                Hes still not very good at this.
                                Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!
                                "I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
                                All the information above is my personal opinion.

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                                • JFK
                                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 67369

                                  #116
                                  There seems to be a train of thought here that a registration fee will keep out the riff raff, thieves, scammers etc. NOT so !!

                                  A 150 registration fee will not keep out people who want to Scam you. It was mentioned here That Sweet T had his laptop ripped off at a show. It was paid admisson. I lost 2500 at a show where my laptop was hacked, paid admisson. and so on and so on......

                                  Wallets get stolen, other untoward things happen, a fee is not going to deter a determined criminal.The PS3 and the gun issue could have happened at any other show. Unfortunately our industry attracts an unsavory element, not much you can do about that, but keep your wits about you.

                                  Now that the free admission to a show is a reality, how about fine tuning it? Work out the kinks, so it is a win - win situation? We need new blood in the business, not all small webmasters starting out can afford huge hotel bills.

                                  YES a 150 registration fee could be a breaking point to some of them. It is nothing to be ashamed of, not all of us started out to be millionaires.

                                  I think you will see the free admisson model prosper in the upcoming years, the promoters will just have to start thinking out of the box

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                                  • WiredGuy
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 34515

                                    #117
                                    My honest opinion:

                                    Love the idea of free badges, of course problems can easily occur with this like bringing friends, free loaders, etc.

                                    So my opinion is a middle ground solution, free badges, but you need to prove you're in the industry. No on-site registration, must have a website or prove you're related to the industry. If you're new, signup to a program and get them to register on your behalf. Make people jump through some hoops, if its free, they'll do it.

                                    Alternatively, charge a descent registration fee but make sure you get your value's worth. Phx forum might cost a couple hundred but comes with open bars, buffets, snacks, etc. Tons of free items that justifies their fees.

                                    Not pointing fingers here, but a certain other show charges $300 and I never once saw any justification for that other to line their pockets. Not to mention a $17 Mojito in Florida which I know for a fact doesn't cost more than $10 when there isn't a show going on...

                                    PS: I would have loved to come to XBiz this time around Alec, but I'm in the middle of buying my first home so I couldn't make it, next year for sure.

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                                    • Anthony
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                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 9653

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Connor
                                      Haha... wow. Sorry to see you go. ;)
                                      Too bad, eh? You'll eat those words soon enough asshole.

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                                      • Cory W
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                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 9133

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by Connor
                                        I know you're not, and I'm not either... I'm just saying that if $120 registration is the deciding factor in whether or not to attend a show, either a) times are really tough, or b) it's not REALLY a factor but why not take the free cheese if you can get it. That's just my honest opinion.
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                                        • Connor
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                                          • Feb 2003
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Anthony
                                          Too bad, eh? You'll eat those words soon enough asshole.
                                          See this is why nobody ever posts honest opinions on webmaster boards, always someone trying to make you pay for having an alternative opinion. But please... you're free to do as you will of course.


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                                          • Connor
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                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 1294

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                            Look who isn't getting invited to the next Sexentertain Dinner.


                                            Who would have thought that skin had grown so thin on GFY. ;)


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                                            • datatank
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                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 5471

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by D-Money
                                              I forgot to mention branding.

                                              Usually I like to brand my name on the event, so when I cold call someone, they know who I am. Sometimes I don't offer services to the masses (like my marketingfirm), I only take a few clients at a time. But right now, I have some services like Feedmorphers that gets visibility in my Players Ball newsletter.

                                              Lot's of biz gets done during the year from these events I throw, but you don't see an immediate return most of the time.

                                              But hey, most people in our biz knows who I am because of the event. It opens up doors.
                                              Wouldnt it be easier just to tell em you are KB's brother ?

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                                              • LAJ
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                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by TheAmericanCannibal
                                                It hurts working with clients like Vivid and Hustler...

                                                I am sure you know that...don't they advertise on YNOT?
                                                Nope, neither of those companies do.
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                                                • boneprone
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                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by AVNChris
                                                  I did not say XBIZ giving away free badges was silly.

                                                  I replied to a thread Mitch posted suggesting we give away free badges and said that it would be silly - I did not say that it was silly for you to do it.

                                                  I get along great with everyone on your team and I do not talk smack - I had a great time at your show.

                                                  Where is this coming from Alec.
                                                  Ill come out and say it.
                                                  ITs silly........

                                                  If the tube sites keep giving away free content and the webmaster shows keep giving away free registrations how will money ever be made!


                                                  Besides by charging for a pass it reduces the level of rift raft a the shows. I for one want less negros with guns at the shows I go to.

                                                  Im willing to bet there are less negros at a show where people pay than at a show where it is free.

                                                  Negros and people like the Anal Hobbit should pay if they want to come to shows.

                                                  I agree with AVN Chris. ITs just damn Silly. He wont say it but I will.

                                                  Its about saftey.

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                                                  • LAJ
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                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by Sexentertain_mike
                                                    That seemed like a slam...hope it wasn't... I'd be very surprised and disappointed.

                                                    I was merely stating that there are too many shows to go to. If some of the costs are mitigated then its an easy decision to go.

                                                    and times are not THAT hard
                                                    C'mon Mike... I saw that as Connor ribbing ya a bit. OF course a free show isn't going to be your deciding factor after having been in the biz now for what... 10 years straight?
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                                                    • boneprone
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                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                      I have said it before, I think it was a brilliant move. With all the shows going on I imagine it is difficult for most to attend, or to even decide which to attend. I am sure that free registration helped quite a few make that decision a little easier.

                                                      I know there are those out there that will say I just automatically side with XBIZ, but the XBIZ people know better than that.

                                                      Are you black?

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                                                      • D-Money
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                                                        • Feb 2002
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                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                        My honest opinion:

                                                        Love the idea of free badges, of course problems can easily occur with this like bringing friends, free loaders, etc.

                                                        So my opinion is a middle ground solution, free badges, but you need to prove you're in the industry. No on-site registration, must have a website or prove you're related to the industry. If you're new, signup to a program and get them to register on your behalf. Make people jump through some hoops, if its free, they'll do it.WG
                                                        That being said, check this idea out...

                                                        How about a main sponsor of the trade show BUYS the sponsorship for the online registration. Meaning, that in order to register, you must prove you're a webmaster by signing up for this companies sign up form. Imagine that you have over 1000 attendees signing up for your affiliate program in order to register for the show! They don't have to send traffic, but it puts them through a screener where they at least have to give their tax ID or Social Security # and website. Then, after signing up all of those people through to an affiliate program (which also regs them for the show in 1 swoop), how much would THAT cost for a sponsor? Probably enough that the show can be free to webmasters! And the show makes money!

                                                        Genius idea.

                                                        WG and I want 10% of this concept as a sponsorship to the first show to do this.
                                                        Last edited by D-Money; 07-16-2008, 12:43 PM.
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                                                        • baddog
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                          • 107089

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by Sly
                                                          Okay, so... is anybody else against free registration that does not run another show? So far they seem to be the only one with that stance.
                                                          A given.

                                                          Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                          I have written off going to shows for some time now largely because they are infact dangerous and get more and more dangerous each year.
                                                          Oh man.

                                                          Originally posted by Sexentertain_mike
                                                          EXACTLY!

                                                          I'm glad to see at least YOU got it

                                                          thx
                                                          We all did.

                                                          Originally posted by thehand
                                                          A paid show may discourage douche-bag civilians form attending, but keep some smaller affiliates out, another acceptable trade off.
                                                          Civilians pay to get in. I know for fact they did at Cybernet Expo in San Diego.

                                                          Originally posted by D-Money
                                                          Hey, I have to throw parties to get free badges!

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                                                          • Sly
                                                            Let's do some business!
                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                            • 31379

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by D-Money
                                                            That being said, check this idea out...

                                                            How about a main sponsor of the trade show BUYS the sponsorship for the online registration. Meaning, that in order to register, you must prove you're a webmaster by signing up for this companies sign up form. Imagine that you have over 1000 attendees signing up for your affiliate program in order to register for the show! They don't have to send traffic, but it puts them through a screener where they at least have to give their tax ID or Social Security # ans website. Then, after signing up all of those people through to an affiliate program (which also regs them for the show in 1 swoop), how much would THAT cost for a sponsor? Probably enough that the show can be free to webmasters! And the show makes money!

                                                            Genius idea.

                                                            WG and I want 10% of this concept as a sponsorship to the first show to do this.
                                                            What about all of the people that do not run websites, etc.?

                                                            An alternate concept... say somebody sponsors registration, they can give a discount to everyone of their clients, affiliates, friends, or whatever. It is along the same lines but instead of making traffic a requirement, it is a bonus.
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                                                            • Don Pueblo
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                                                              #130
                                                              Get back on track you goofballs. This thread is about some big mouth running his big mouth, not the price of shows in china. If you think this thread was about the price of a show you are just as big a dummy as AlienQ.
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                                                              • datatank
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                                                                • Aug 2004
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                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by D-Money
                                                                That being said, check this idea out...

                                                                How about a main sponsor of the trade show BUYS the sponsorship for the online registration. Meaning, that in order to register, you must prove you're a webmaster by signing up for this companies sign up form. Imagine that you have over 1000 attendees signing up for your affiliate program in order to register for the show! They don't have to send traffic, but it puts them through a screener where they at least have to give their tax ID or Social Security # and website. Then, after signing up all of those people through to an affiliate program (which also regs them for the show in 1 swoop), how much would THAT cost for a sponsor? Probably enough that the show can be free to webmasters! And the show makes money!

                                                                Genius idea.

                                                                WG and I want 10% of this concept as a sponsorship to the first show to do this.
                                                                1000 of todays webmasters is not even worth the BW and storage space on the servers

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                                                                • D-Money
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                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 9716

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                                                  What about all of the people that do not run websites, etc.?

                                                                  An alternate concept... say somebody sponsors registration, they can give a discount to everyone of their clients, affiliates, friends, or whatever. It is along the same lines but instead of making traffic a requirement, it is a bonus.
                                                                  Sounds great.

                                                                  I want my 3%
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                                                                  • C H R I S
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                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                    • 10842

                                                                    #133
                                                                    I actually think some of the ideas being passed around this thread are positive. I personally would have preffered Alec to call me personally if he had a problem with me, as i approached him personally and asked if he would like to work together more cohesively in planning dates, etc.

                                                                    If I crossed any lines I apologize, but honestly I was just answering Mitches request for free badges with my honest opinion on the matter. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

                                                                    If that was "slamming Xbiz" you be the judge.....

                                                                    Quote:
                                                                    Originally Posted by NetBilling
                                                                    Free admission to all attendees? That would be awesome.

                                                                    Thats a good one.......

                                                                    Who would be silly enough to do that?????



                                                                    Originally Posted by AVNChris
                                                                    And all joking aside Mitch - there are several good reasons too charge for badges:

                                                                    1. Qualification - If you pay for something you are invested. Unqualified offers and attendees attract high number but low quality.

                                                                    2. Quality - We really dont want to be talking to Real Estate and Yahoos who are not in the industry. Charging for a badge cuts those asshats out.

                                                                    3.Quantity - Even with the charge, we get the largest number of attendees of any industry show. Sponsors have time and again invested in our events because of that.

                                                                    4. Event Quality - With the news that you will be hearing in the next few days you just may change your tune..... maybe

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                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                      • 107089

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by datatank
                                                                      Wouldnt it be easier just to tell em you are KB's brother ?


                                                                      Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                      Are you black?
                                                                      Only partially.

                                                                      Originally posted by D-Money
                                                                      That being said, check this idea out...

                                                                      How about a main sponsor of the trade show BUYS the sponsorship for the online registration. Meaning, that in order to register, you must prove you're a webmaster by signing up for this companies sign up form. Imagine that you have over 1000 attendees signing up for your affiliate program in order to register for the show! They don't have to send traffic, but it puts them through a screener where they at least have to give their tax ID or Social Security # and website. Then, after signing up all of those people through to an affiliate program (which also regs them for the show in 1 swoop), how much would THAT cost for a sponsor? Probably enough that the show can be free to webmasters! And the show makes money!

                                                                      Genius idea.

                                                                      WG and I want 10% of this concept as a sponsorship to the first show to do this.
                                                                      Adult.com used to do that as I recall. You had to be verified by any of the sponsors. Spread the love.

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                                                                      • TheAmericanCannibal
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                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by LAJ
                                                                        Nope, neither of those companies do.

                                                                        Jay I was being facetious

                                                                        lol!

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                                                                        • LAJ
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                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                          That's fucked up. Really fucked up. I just committed to sponsoring the Atlanta Forum. Ynot has lost my business in any capacity. I won't be associated with some dickhead who thinks it's okay to post negative and libelous statments about my business, as you have so easily did with my friend and business associates at Sexentertain.

                                                                          I'm curious Connor, other than Ynot, what else have you run?
                                                                          Wow Anthony, I really have no idea where that came from. Known you a loooooong time and the way you are personally and frankly I don't see anything libelous in Connor's post. But I definitely do in yours.

                                                                          It was nice knowing ya, I guess.
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                                                                          • D-Money
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                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                            • 9716

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by baddog




                                                                            Only partially.



                                                                            Adult.com used to do that as I recall. You had to be verified by any of the sponsors. Spread the love.
                                                                            Still a great idea.

                                                                            I don't even think you need to have an affilaite program as the service to do this. It's just the screening process. Any program owner would love to see their stats after getting 1000 webmasters signing up for program, with those numbers, maybe at least 500 of them have affiliate traffic? Then after signing up, certainly a number of them will at least check out the program they just got signed up for, and a number of those people will send joins.

                                                                            And if not, look at the branding. Everyone sees your program while signing up.

                                                                            Anyway, sometimes ideas like this need to be explored deeper, we got something here.

                                                                            $50k for the registration. Going once... Twice...

                                                                            What, which show wants this $50k?
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                                                                            • Sly
                                                                              Let's do some business!
                                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                                              • 31379

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by D-Money
                                                                              Still a great idea.

                                                                              I don't even think you need to have an affilaite program as the service to do this. It's just the screening process. Any program owner would love to see their stats after getting 1000 webmasters signing up for program, with those numbers, maybe at least 500 of them have affiliate traffic? Then after signing up, certainly a number of them will at least check out the program they just got signed up for, and a number of those people will send joins.

                                                                              And if not, look at the branding. Everyone sees your program while signing up.

                                                                              Anyway, sometimes ideas like this need to be explored deeper, we got something here.

                                                                              $50k for the registration. Going once... Twice...

                                                                              What, which show wants this $50k?
                                                                              D your numbers aren't even close. :-) It is still an interesting idea, regardless. Something for people to think about, for sure.
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                                                                              • datatank
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                • 5471

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by D-Money
                                                                                Still a great idea.

                                                                                Any program owner would love to see their stats after getting 1000 webmasters signing up for program, with those numbers, maybe at least 500 of them have affiliate traffic?
                                                                                You would be lucky to get 5

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                                                                                • Anthony
                                                                                  Keyboard Warrior
                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                  • 9653

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by LAJ
                                                                                  Wow Anthony, I really have no idea where that came from. Known you a loooooong time and the way you are personally and frankly I don't see anything libelous in Connor's post. But I definitely do in yours.

                                                                                  It was nice knowing ya, I guess.
                                                                                  So let me get this straight Jay, someone who infers that business is bad for a program owner is okay in your book, but what I said isn't?

                                                                                  Libelous? Which part? The part where I said I will never do business with Ynot, or the part where I asked Conner what's he's done in this industry other than Ynot?

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                                                                                  • Achmed
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2007
                                                                                    • 1447

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    For next one hour AGA having a special on hand grenades. Keep for this thread at top of page and I throw in complimantary claymore us army mine with purchase.
                                                                                    Achmed Oil - Achmed Holdings - Achmed Guns n Ammo
                                                                                    Ceo of all companies
                                                                                    [email protected]
                                                                                    [email protected]
                                                                                    آخرون من نفس المجموعة، وهم عبدالرؤوف الشايب
                                                                                    وسيد شرف الستري لاعتداء قوات الأمن أثناء تواجدهم في المطار، ويعتبر البعض ذلك
                                                                                    تصفية للحسابات قامت به
                                                                                    http://tweeter.com/achmedholdings

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                                                                                    • tony299
                                                                                      lurker
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 57021

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                      So let me get this straight Jay, someone who infers that business is bad for a program owner is okay in your book, but what I said isn't?

                                                                                      Libelous? Which part? The part where I said I will never do business with Ynot, or the part where I asked Conner what's he's done in this industry other than Ynot?
                                                                                      I read the whole thread what did he say that was libelous? Im confused. I have no dog in this fight but read the whole thing twice and cant figure what got you so angry.

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                                                                                      • chri$tian
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                        • 2468

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by TheAmericanCannibal
                                                                                        HEY i can say this much....

                                                                                        XBIZ may have been a free show, but I left and spent more money in Vegas this trip than any other trip i have ever had in January in 11 years.

                                                                                        I was there half as long as the AVN show in Jan as well as the rooms in January are $600 a night- I still spent more at the Hard Rock than ever.

                                                                                        I enjoyed this trip immensely too-

                                                                                        I could eat at NOBU every night of the week.

                                                                                        But If I ever split 8's and get another 8 and a deuce - double down, and lose to a black jack again.... I am going to jump off the fucking roof face first into the concrete
                                                                                        You should have been at my table playing Black Jack, killed it....
                                                                                        http://www.3dsex.com

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                                                                                        • whatthef
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2008
                                                                                          • 179

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          I think its a free country and we in the Adult Industry should defend the First Amendment with our lives. Chris is one of the best sales people i have ever had the pleasure to work with.
                                                                                          Free or not free we all get what we pay for and pay for what we get.
                                                                                          I personally had a great time and met some amazing Industry leaders in Vegas this year.

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                                                                                          • D-Money
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                            • 9716

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                            D your numbers aren't even close. :-) It is still an interesting idea, regardless. Something for people to think about, for sure.
                                                                                            I was hoping to get someone to pay the $50k for it so I can get my 10% (split with WG)!

                                                                                            Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh


                                                                                            LOL

                                                                                            But you're right, I just used some numbers on the theory that half of the people must have a link somewhere? I'd hope. But hey, maybe Datatank is right with his number.
                                                                                            Still Ballin'

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                                                                                            • mikesouth
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 6340

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              I think you need to quit being whiney and thin skinned thats what I think.

                                                                                              Is your show successful? profitable?

                                                                                              If so the why the fuck are you whining about this

                                                                                              suck it up buttercup
                                                                                              Mike South

                                                                                              It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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                                                                                              • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Apr 2004
                                                                                                • 11190

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                It's your Show Helmy. Whatever you are doing and however you are doing it. It's working and it brings the industry together.

                                                                                                Great job.
                                                                                                Support a Good Cause

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                                                                                                • Connor
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                  • 1294

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                  So let me get this straight Jay, someone who infers that business is bad for a program owner is okay in your book, but what I said isn't?
                                                                                                  Or, I inferred that I didn't really believe that the cost of a badge registration was REALLY a deciding factor for a major program. I thought that was obvious... apparently not.


                                                                                                  YNOT v5 IS NOW LIVE! | SEEN YNOT MAIL YET?

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                                                                                                  • Achmed
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jun 2007
                                                                                                    • 1447

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    avnjustin, you confuse achmed with twisted words. please for sake of english as second language please say for me what means you in straight words english.
                                                                                                    Achmed Oil - Achmed Holdings - Achmed Guns n Ammo
                                                                                                    Ceo of all companies
                                                                                                    [email protected]
                                                                                                    [email protected]
                                                                                                    آخرون من نفس المجموعة، وهم عبدالرؤوف الشايب
                                                                                                    وسيد شرف الستري لاعتداء قوات الأمن أثناء تواجدهم في المطار، ويعتبر البعض ذلك
                                                                                                    تصفية للحسابات قامت به
                                                                                                    http://tweeter.com/achmedholdings

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                                                                                                    • LAJ
                                                                                                      Gingerific
                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                      • 5567

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                      So let me get this straight Jay, someone who infers that business is bad for a program owner is okay in your book, but what I said isn't?

                                                                                                      Libelous? Which part? The part where I said I will never do business with Ynot, or the part where I asked Conner what's he's done in this industry other than Ynot?
                                                                                                      All I'm going to say here Anthony, is reread Connor's post and think about it, then reread yours and think about it. My response to you needs no further clarification.

                                                                                                      And since you will never do business with YNOT again, I'll make it easier for both of us by removing you from my ICQ and my AWW friends list. No need to accidentally cross paths again.
                                                                                                      YNOT.com - The original industry resource
                                                                                                      email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting

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