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Well I'll be damned, a serious fucking discussion on gfy, whoda thunk it.Comment
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Of course l dont care im happy with my attorney,it was you who made the post and mentioned it maybe a concern to the industry now others have to go look up the name l guess
Just post it or icq me if you dont have the balls and let a girl do it for you.
Its annoying when posters go I know a scammer but I will not name them ,I got a bounced check and im owed 6 months income but l dont want to say who it is.
Help the industry dont worry, posting a lawyer thats lost cases will not get you in trouble if its the truth so name them or icq me maybe if this industry starts to work and share info it might help you all.
Im actually starting to think the unthinkable and think Dirty F maybe my hero gawddddddddd
Do you ever shut the fuck up?
Excuse me...I have to go snort coke and shoot heroine at the Xbiz show now.Comment
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Spot on. The advice from the lawyer is spend $100k and more and I might get you off, but it will bankrupt you and if fight and lose you will go to prison for a very long time. Plead guilty and it will be a fine or reduced sentence.
What you also have to consider is the case the prosecution had against the defendant. Was the defendant guilty? Lots of cases we see recently are easy to win for the prosecution.
Then Aaron and all the others flaming the lawyer, before you criticise others what amount of money are you going to put towards the cost of the court case?
Because this is the bottom line, you want someone else to put up a lot of money to save your ass from getting caught down the line.Comment
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Will those who think defendants in the future should plead innocent and fight the case kindly also state how much money they are prepared to put towards a fund to pay for the future trials.
Otherwise STFU because telling someone else to risk their money and liberty on a pointless thread on GFY is about the extent of this industry "coming together".
Aaron how much money will you pledge?Comment
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It was a piece of advice to you, not a request. I'm not the one looking like an idiot for spewing incoherent drivel.Whitehat is for chumps
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The FSC lawyers have been defending almost all the obscenity cases that have come up.Comment
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I honestly do think it could be a problem UNLESS the client truly wanted to plead guilty and really didn't want to fight. Now if the lawyer is just being lazy and not wanting to fight, then yes we may have problems
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Yeah...That sounds reasonable.
I'll pay your legal fees AND serve your sentence.
Brilliant.
STFU Paul.Comment
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Of course l dont care im happy with my attorney,it was you who made the post and mentioned it maybe a concern to the industry now others have to go look up the name l guess
Just post it or icq me if you dont have the balls and let a girl do it for you.
Its annoying when posters go I know a scammer but I will not name them ,I got a bounced check and im owed 6 months income but l dont want to say who it is.
Help the industry dont worry, posting a lawyer thats lost cases will not get you in trouble if its the truth so name them or icq me maybe if this industry starts to work and share info it might help you all.
Im actually starting to think the unthinkable and think Dirty F maybe my hero gawddddddddd
Speaking of kangaroo courts,this is one Claire!
I don't know who the lawyer is either, but I bet you could give him a rise in his legal briefs.
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Um.... plea bargains do not "set precedent" in the way that fully adjudicated cases do.
If the government charges me with distributing obscene materials, and then I plead out to a lesser charge (or even to the original charge) this would have a negligible effect on the adult industry at large, for the simple reason that no trier of fact (i.e. jury or judge) has rendered a ruling.... which rather mitigates the value of the case in terms of "precedent."
Before we fly off the handle and say "this lawyer is giving bad advice," or "this lawyer is settling cases and that hurts the industry," it might be good to consider how criminal and civil procedure work, and then reconsider whether such plea bargains are really a "serious adult industry legal concern."
Why don't plea bargains set precedent? Well, how fair would it be for the court to issue a ruling in a case that is going to trial based on a case that did not go to trial? The facts of the case that was plead out could be identical to those in a subsequent case, but a plea bargain by its very nature means that the legal arguments available to that particular defense attorney were not tested before that court.
As a judge presiding over a subsequent trial with similar facts, you can't very well turn to the defense and say "well, this here attorney two years ago plead out a similar case in which constitutional challenges were available to him, so now I'm rejecting your First Amendment argument without comment or analysis."
It just doesn't work that way.... period.Q. BoyerComment
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Hi Aaron.Comment
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Good point!!!I'm just a newbie.Comment
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this is possible!!!I'm just a newbie.Comment
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Um.... plea bargains do not "set precedent" in the way that fully adjudicated cases do.
If the government charges me with distributing obscene materials, and then I plead out to a lesser charge (or even to the original charge) this would have a negligible effect on the adult industry at large, for the simple reason that no trier of fact (i.e. jury or judge) has rendered a ruling.... which rather mitigates the value of the case in terms of "precedent."
Before we fly off the handle and say "this lawyer is giving bad advice," or "this lawyer is settling cases and that hurts the industry," it might be good to consider how criminal and civil procedure work, and then reconsider whether such plea bargains are really a "serious adult industry legal concern."
Why don't plea bargains set precedent? Well, how fair would it be for the court to issue a ruling in a case that is going to trial based on a case that did not go to trial? The facts of the case that was plead out could be identical to those in a subsequent case, but a plea bargain by its very nature means that the legal arguments available to that particular defense attorney were not tested before that court.
As a judge presiding over a subsequent trial with similar facts, you can't very well turn to the defense and say "well, this here attorney two years ago plead out a similar case in which constitutional challenges were available to him, so now I'm rejecting your First Amendment argument without comment or analysis."
It just doesn't work that way.... period.
Interesting information.
Thank you for the explanation, Quentin.Comment
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So true and seconded. However improved punctuation does not help the complete lack of knowledge on the subject she is speaking about. Claire do yourself a favor and STFU already your mindlessness makes my brain hurt.
Aaron I have been thinking about this a lot lately actually and I thank you for starting this post as it nice to hear others views and know I am not alone in this concern.TPF 2010 "They are eating our sausages!"Comment
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