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  • Gals4free
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2003
    • 428

    #1

    penthouse sales down the drain since AFF takeover

    Hey guys,

    dont take this as a bashing thread, as i know this is probably not the place, but I was just going over my Statsremote in depth as i do 1 time a month, and noticed the following trend. I only promote penthouse with some FHG and submissions.

    Dec 2007 - 8 sales / 12 rebills - $201.81
    Jan 2008 - 10 sales / 13 rebills - $346.27
    Feb 2008 - 6 sales / 18 rebills - $358.47
    *** Penthouse buys AFF and AFF now manages Penthouse online operations ***
    March 2008
    In the old program (NATS) - 10 rebills - $99.70
    In the new AFF program - 39 "free" members for a wopping $0.90 earned.

    Some more details about this. I by no means promote penthouse very heavy, just some FHGs and the odd submission, but stats are stats. I have a linkcode system that I can switch over the sponsor codes with 1 button to point to a new code. So basically any gallery ever submitted for penthouse has the new Penthouse AFF program code. The hosted galleries magically don't track ofcourse, so maybe some sales got lost there. But hummm.. this does not seem quite right. The ONLY membership being "sold" now is the free membership bullshit which just allows an upgrade or something, which well obviously does not seem to be happening. I got one wopping upgrade in april so far ($12 something earned) and already another 9 useless "free" members.

    Am I the only one that saw penthouse earnings go through the drain since AFF take over online operations?

    Im looking for feedback

    thanks.

    Steve
    At Kodify we have in excess of 5M visitors a day through our network that consists of www.PornTube.com www.4Tube.com www.PornerBros.com and www.Fux.com. We operate a very successful Content Publishing Platform at http://content.porntube.com where you can expose your content to our audience!
  • gleem
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2001
    • 5593

    #2
    Same here steve, I was dissapointed to see that the old did better, looked like the new tour would be awesome, something aint right




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    • Gals4free
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2003
      • 428

      #3
      yup exactly my thoughts.
      At Kodify we have in excess of 5M visitors a day through our network that consists of www.PornTube.com www.4Tube.com www.PornerBros.com and www.Fux.com. We operate a very successful Content Publishing Platform at http://content.porntube.com where you can expose your content to our audience!

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      • johannes
        VIP User
        • Jul 2003
        • 869

        #4
        Hi Steve! Long time no talk - hope you send a few more to me instead again. I wil tak to you laters this week. Greetings

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        • RTP
          aka Jimmy James
          • Nov 2006
          • 1335

          #5
          yep i had a dedicated project for that revolved around penthouse awhile back...a site with at least 30% going towards it and now it's all free member sign-ups. given...a few surfers signed up under the yearly program but it seems to be 1 yr members or free members. the new 5 minute clip "tube site" they have may be counter-productive...but hey it prompts aff!

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          • DWB
            Registered User
            • Jul 2003
            • 31779

            #6
            Fuck Various, Inc.

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            • Sean
              revolutionforce.com
              • Jun 2003
              • 2909

              #7
              shooting you an icq now or feel free to hit me up
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              • DWB
                Registered User
                • Jul 2003
                • 31779

                #8
                Fuck Various, Inc.

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                • Shap
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2001
                  • 8313

                  #9
                  Hate to be the guy that says hey promote me. Truth is we are in direct competition and have been working hard to make our affiliates more and more money. if anybody wants to give us a shot or try some of our new (yet to be released) sites hit us up.

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                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                    best designer on GFY
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 30307

                    #10
                    I think it pretty much boils down to webmasters not liking content thieves and those that fund them. After all the result is truly the webmasters bottom line on the chopping block.

                    There I said it, thats right...
                    AFF would be doing alot better not supporting content thieves and companies like Zango. Penthouse is solid gold no reason why it should not sell but less promotion = less demand as a result of less exposure.

                    Many equate less exposure = more sales but it is not true.
                    Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 04-07-2008, 03:42 PM.

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                    • Ayla_SquareTurtle
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 3550

                      #11
                      Well, I recently wrote a review of the site for a client and...I don't think surfers are liking the bait and switch they've got going with the "free membership."

                      Now I'm not trying to say "oh poor surfers" or anything, but it says free, and, well, it ain't.

                      I mean sure, I wouldn't expect to get full access to everything for free, but once you're in there, you can't do ANYTHING. I'd be pissed and probably would leave without upgrading too which is a shame because I actually like the site itself.

                      You show someone some previews and tell them the price to access everything, and they just might sign up. You tell them it's free, put them through the sign up process and then give them nothing and then ask them to go through a second sign up process... well... they might just move along.
                      Last edited by Ayla_SquareTurtle; 04-07-2008, 03:58 PM.
                      gone. long gone.

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                      • fris
                        I have to go potty
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 55814

                        #12
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                        • FreeOnes
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 3406

                          #13
                          Fuck I just had a close look at my stats and they dropped to 25% of what it was!

                          I say, ALL LINKS DELETED

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                          • Fat Panda
                            Porn is Dead. Move along.
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 13296

                            #14
                            mine too

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                            • SleazyDream
                              I'm here for SPORT
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 41470

                              #15
                              my sales seem steady............
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                              Now read without the word dog.

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                              • Jens Van Assterdam
                                The Dupre Pimp
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 6677

                                #16
                                Penthouse is also my worst converting sponsor... Switched it to MacAndBumble and this site converts like crazy for me
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                                • Gals4free
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 428

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Shap
                                  Hate to be the guy that says hey promote me. Truth is we are in direct competition and have been working hard to make our affiliates more and more money. if anybody wants to give us a shot or try some of our new (yet to be released) sites hit us up.
                                  I do so already
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                                  • John.
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2007
                                    • 2264

                                    #18
                                    only one solution.................. (see siggy)
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                                    • Gals4free
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2003
                                      • 428

                                      #19
                                      apparently i had another account with them that was auto imported upon the merge which i was not aware of. That accounted for some of the sales, so its not quite as bad as it initially looked. The free members model is not the way to go in my opinion, but at least more or less on track.
                                      At Kodify we have in excess of 5M visitors a day through our network that consists of www.PornTube.com www.4Tube.com www.PornerBros.com and www.Fux.com. We operate a very successful Content Publishing Platform at http://content.porntube.com where you can expose your content to our audience!

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                                      • jmk
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 5391

                                        #20
                                        Feel free to try us out!

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                                        • SiMpLe
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 3221

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Shap
                                          Hate to be the guy that says hey promote me. Truth is we are in direct competition and have been working hard to make our affiliates more and more money. if anybody wants to give us a shot or try some of our new (yet to be released) sites hit us up.
                                          Oh your that guy...
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                                          • sandman!
                                            Icq: 14420613
                                            • Mar 2001
                                            • 15427

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                            my sales seem steady............
                                            LOLOLOLOLOL
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                                            • Sean
                                              revolutionforce.com
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 2909

                                              #23
                                              did i miss something. i know that i just sort of scan threads here and there... but i thought that there was some sort of courtesy still in threads that were about a certain program and no question outside of that program that were in that unsaid "dont spam someones thread" sort of thing
                                              -sean
                                              skype: sean.a.christian
                                              sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                              • Elli
                                                Reach for those stars!
                                                • Apr 2003
                                                • 17991

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Gals4free
                                                apparently i had another account with them that was auto imported upon the merge which i was not aware of. That accounted for some of the sales, so its not quite as bad as it initially looked. The free members model is not the way to go in my opinion, but at least more or less on track.
                                                I'm glad you were able to get your stats worked out!
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                                                • rogerrabbit00
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 315

                                                  #25
                                                  http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...iendfinder.com

                                                  Looks to me like they are buying lots of traffic starting in March. Maybe that huge traffic is resetting the stats tracking codes to give AFF credit for the sale instead of the webmaster!
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                                                  • rogerrabbit00
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                    • 315

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                    did i miss something. i know that i just sort of scan threads here and there... but i thought that there was some sort of courtesy still in threads that were about a certain program and no question outside of that program that were in that unsaid "dont spam someones thread" sort of thing


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                                                    • SuzzyQ
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                      • 1557

                                                      #27
                                                      Note to self.. pull all Penthouse galleries and find someone new to replace them

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                                                      • rogerrabbit00
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                        • 315

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SuzzyQ
                                                        Note to self.. pull all Penthouse galleries and find someone new to replace them

                                                        Good Idea
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                                                        • TheMaster
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 2734

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by FreeOnes
                                                          Fuck I just had a close look at my stats and they dropped to 25% of what it was!

                                                          I say, ALL LINKS DELETED
                                                          did you really?

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                                                          • candyflip
                                                            Carpe Visio
                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                            • 43073

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                            did i miss something. i know that i just sort of scan threads here and there... but i thought that there was some sort of courtesy still in threads that were about a certain program and no question outside of that program that were in that unsaid "dont spam someones thread" sort of thing
                                                            So is "Don't shit where you eat", but this is GFY...you should know better.

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                                                            • TampaToker
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2006
                                                              • 5828

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                              did i miss something. i know that i just sort of scan threads here and there... but i thought that there was some sort of courtesy still in threads that were about a certain program and no question outside of that program that were in that unsaid "dont spam someones thread" sort of thing
                                                              are you really bitching about someone spamming in a thread about penthouse? You are the same guy that defending the use of companies like zango, megarotic, and torrents. Maybe you should shut the fuck up and stop worrying about thread jacking on gfy and worry more about stolen traffic, sales, and content. Have a nice day and don't let the post reply button hit you in the ass on the way out
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                                                              • inthestars
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                • 2021

                                                                #32
                                                                My sales are down too. I feel that the change was to lessen sales. The initial affiliate program was just to create a new awareness for Penthouse's internet presence and now that its done, adios webmasters. Penthouse wants all the money for themselves.

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                                                                • chompers
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                  • 189

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I've never pushed penthouse very hard. I'm making about the same now as I used to.
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                                                                  • xclusive
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                                    • 35218

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                                    did i miss something. i know that i just sort of scan threads here and there... but i thought that there was some sort of courtesy still in threads that were about a certain program and no question outside of that program that were in that unsaid "dont spam someones thread" sort of thing
                                                                    Fuck you, you fucking scumbag. By the way Twisty cash is now powered by NATS http://nats.twistyscash.com/

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                                                                    • Tjeezers
                                                                      Webmaster
                                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                                      • 16604

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by xclusive
                                                                      Fuck you, you fucking scumbag. By the way Twisty cash is now powered by NATS http://nats.twistyscash.com/
                                                                      Tsssss...What a fail comment... I just re-routed my links and dumped you of my sponsor list. For you 10 others. Have a great day!

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                                                                      • chompers
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2005
                                                                        • 189

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Sex2Have
                                                                        Tsssss...What a fail comment... I just re-routed my links and dumped you of my sponsor list. For you 10 others. Have a great day!
                                                                        Actually it looks like you are the FAIL man. That guy doesn't even work for Twistys.

                                                                        Nice Job!

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                                                                        • Mistah Charlie
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2007
                                                                          • 478

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Man, we can't GIVE that tired brand away.
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                                                                          • Tjeezers
                                                                            Webmaster
                                                                            • Mar 2007
                                                                            • 16604

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by chompers
                                                                            Actually it looks like you are the FAIL man. That guy doesn't even work for Twistys.

                                                                            Nice Job!

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                                                                            • Alky
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                              • 5651

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by chompers
                                                                              Actually it looks like you are the FAIL man. That guy doesn't even work for Twistys.

                                                                              Nice Job!

                                                                              WOOOOOO WHOOOOOOOOOO
                                                                              lol... awesome

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                                                                              • xclusive
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Apr 2004
                                                                                • 35218

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Sex2Have
                                                                                Tsssss...What a fail comment... I just re-routed my links and dumped you of my sponsor list. For you 10 others. Have a great day!
                                                                                I don't work for twistys at all, I just hate scumbags like Irish Pimp that think they can have people play nice with them as they are fucking over people. I'm just a webmaster like yourself and don't work for any programs. I'm sick of scum in this industry. So don't take it out on the sponsor as it was more of a fuck you to Irish Pimp

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                                                                                • Tjeezers
                                                                                  Webmaster
                                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                                  • 16604

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by xclusive
                                                                                  I don't work for twistys at all, I just hate scumbags like Irish Pimp that think they can have people play nice with them as they are fucking over people. I'm just a webmaster like yourself and don't work for any programs. I'm sick of scum in this industry. So don't take it out on the sponsor as it was more of a fuck you to Irish Pimp
                                                                                  I read :

                                                                                  Originally Posted by Gals4free View Post
                                                                                  apparently i had another account with them that was auto imported upon the merge which i was not aware of. That accounted for some of the sales, so its not quite as bad as it initially looked. The free members model is not the way to go in my opinion, but at least more or less on track.

                                                                                  I see attacks. You think this is a nice way of talking to people on a forum? Why not pick up the phone and shoot your message.
                                                                                  And I would personally never associate myself with a sponsor program as webmaster. You have no idea how many people ( not posting ) read this kind of personal attacks and judge you on it.

                                                                                  You might not represent them, you just associated your self with them. Case closed for me.

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                                                                                  • chompers
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                                                    • 189

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Sex2Have
                                                                                    I read :

                                                                                    Originally Posted by Gals4free View Post
                                                                                    apparently i had another account with them that was auto imported upon the merge which i was not aware of. That accounted for some of the sales, so its not quite as bad as it initially looked. The free members model is not the way to go in my opinion, but at least more or less on track.

                                                                                    I see attacks. You think this is a nice way of talking to people on a forum? Why not pick up the phone and shoot your message.
                                                                                    And I would personally never associate myself with a sponsor program as webmaster. You have no idea how many people ( not posting ) read this kind of personal attacks and judge you on it.

                                                                                    You might not represent them, you just associated your self with them. Case closed for me.
                                                                                    No offense but for a full time webmaster you are pretty damn stupid. First you Fail thinking he works for a program he doesn't work for. Then you quote another guy and Fail again at making any sense.

                                                                                    I checked out your site. You are obviously pushing Penthouse hard and you have an interest in protecting them. That's great and fantastic good for you to stand up for them somebody besides irish pimp has to right?

                                                                                    Good luck at not failing as much next time you post

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                                                                                    • CaptainHowdy
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                      • 94125

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                      my sales seem steady............
                                                                                      Someone ring the bro alert...

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                                                                                      • stev0
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                        • 6801

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Fuck em... they pretty much fund every thieving asshole on the internet. If they ran a legitimate ship then they'd be a great program, but as it stands I pretty much feel that anyone running that program deserves a baton to the knee caps.

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                                                                                        • nastymed
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                                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                                          • 150

                                                                                          #45
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                                                                                          • nico-t
                                                                                            emperor of my world
                                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                                            • 29901

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                            my sales seem steady............
                                                                                            wow that's surprising

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                                                                                            • BVF
                                                                                              Black Vagina Finder
                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 13975

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Sex2Have
                                                                                              You might not represent them, you just associated your self with them. Case closed for me.
                                                                                              No.....You just can't read.....

                                                                                              Case closed for the rest of us.

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                                                                                              • Babaganoosh
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                                                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                                                • 15841

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Sex2Have
                                                                                                Tsssss...What a fail comment... I just re-routed my links and dumped you of my sponsor list. For you 10 others. Have a great day!


                                                                                                He has nothing to do with Twistys you clueless twit. I'm sure Twistys will miss your 6 hits a day though.
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                                                                                                • MichaelP
                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                  • 7123

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I used to be their #2 or #3 affiliate depending on months with the "good old NATS system" ...

                                                                                                  My numbers dropped to something like 25% since the merge too

                                                                                                  So my thinking is : If it did affected me this bad, I can only imagine how it is for the other ones...

                                                                                                  Many of you know where I come from.. Always loved Penthouse, always will, I truly loved working there and everyones from the NYC office, we did parted in good terms due to the merge... But no matter how I can love a company, I have to look at the numbers and numbers are what matters here. Never changed anything from Before and After.. Traffic, galleries, sites and most important, DEDICATION...

                                                                                                  I'm just sad to see such a great program becoming what it is now...

                                                                                                  Now I guess the ball is in their field

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                                                                                                  • MichaelP
                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                    • 7123

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    That being said, I still believe it's not too late and they still can make things right ...

                                                                                                    The brand is VERY Strong and the name is good to the consumers.

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