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Brazzers is stealing your money.. Plain and simple theft.

07-06-2008, 05:39 AM

They run PornHub.com which has massive amounts of other sponsors full length videos.

That means a company in this very industry is stealing from this industry.

If you are an affiliate of any other program you can kiss your ratios goodbye because this greedy company is running an illegal tube.

They also give advertising dollars to several large tubes. Further fucking us all over.

If you are an affiliate of Brazzers I advise you to use someone elses big tits, big ass, etc sites with your traffic.

What a bunch of assholes!
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07-06-2008, 05:40 AM

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07-06-2008, 05:44 AM

wow - people of low character and no ethics - in the porn industry, i'm shocked!

i like how they screwed over the poor shmuck who created their brand of content.

scumbags - allegedly of course

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07-06-2008, 05:46 AM

Yea it seems like if you dig deep enough into every illegal tube site you find a major industry player counting his money.

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07-06-2008, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by cykoe6

Yea it seems like if you dig deep enough into every illegal tube site you find a major industry player counting his money.

I don't believe that. If you look into most of them you will find non-USA, non-Canadian webmasters that don't plan on setting foot on our soil.

However, you are partially correct in your statement since there is a company like Brazzers or AFF supporting the site.
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07-06-2008, 05:54 AM

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07-06-2008, 06:15 AM

why do you care?
All other big tube sites belong to REAL webmasters too.. posting here or on another board.. tube8 etc..

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07-06-2008, 06:37 AM

But WHY don't other programs do something about it?

I don't mind about legal tube sites but stealing from each other is just plain pathetic and nasty and should be punished hard.

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07-06-2008, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by DaLord

But WHY don't other programs do something about it?

I don't mind about legal tube sites but stealing from each other is just plain pathetic and nasty and should be punished hard.

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because i think most of them are run by the programs - through shell companies and hosted offshore ....
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07-06-2008, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by DaLord

But WHY don't other programs do something about it?

I don't mind about legal tube sites but stealing from each other is just plain pathetic and nasty and should be punished hard.

Mike

Good question - atleast they could end up winning/taking the tube sites from the current owners...

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07-06-2008, 06:53 AM

1. copyright infringement is not stealing it is a fraud
2. what they are doing is not copyright infringement because of the safe harbour provision of the DMCA

stopy your crying and get back to work

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07-06-2008, 06:53 AM

Im shocked the defenders arent in here yet.
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07-06-2008, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by gideongallery

1. copyright infringement is not stealing it is a fraud
2. what they are doing is not copyright infringement because of the safe harbour provision of the DMCA

stopy your crying and get back to work

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07-06-2008, 06:54 AM

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because i think most of them are run by the programs - through shell companies and hosted offshore ....

Your 100% correct.

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07-06-2008, 07:02 AM

illegal tube sites can die.
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07-06-2008, 07:15 AM

I always find it funny that it's no big secrect these guys are fucking us all over yet all the "Bros" and the dumb sheep keep on pushing them. Same thing with AFF/Cams..

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07-06-2008, 07:16 AM

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07-06-2008, 07:18 AM

BRAZZERS needs to stop of this shit but

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07-06-2008, 07:32 AM

Has anybody From Brazzers ever confirmed or denied this allegation?? I've seen this kind of thread here several times over the past 3 months or so.

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07-06-2008, 07:50 AM

[QUOTE=Jai;14427167]BRAZZERS needs to stop of this shit but

i still like BRAZZERS and nick and his team....best content on the net

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07-06-2008, 07:51 AM

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07-06-2008, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

I don't believe that. If you look into most of them you will find non-USA, non-Canadian webmasters that don't plan on setting foot on our soil.

You can believe that. Most big companies just hide under fake companies based outside of US, but they aren't.
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07-06-2008, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by gideongallery

1. copyright infringement is not stealing it is a fraud

much better to commit fraud than steal

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2. what they are doing is not copyright infringement because of the safe harbour provision of the DMCA

i dont think these full length ripped movies are being uploaded by generous perverts I dont remember seeing a provision for that and even if they were , the judge in the youtube case doesnt seem to be so easily appeased or he would have thrown out the case

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07-06-2008, 08:19 AM

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07-06-2008, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

much better to commit fraud than steal

when you misrepresent copyright infringment as theft you can and in most cases ignore fair use, or previously licienced rights.

When you properly represent copyright infringment as fraudlently claiming a "right to view" the first question you have to answer is did they buy or were given a "right to view" because if have then there IS NO FRAUD.

that being said commit if fraud is worse, because their is no ambeguity (sp) about it, you have no wiggle room, if you have proof they never bought or were given a "right to view" your are stone cold guilty, no if no buts.

i dont think these full length ripped movies are being uploaded by generous perverts I dont remember seeing a provision for that and even if they were , the judge in the youtube case doesnt seem to be so easily appeased or he would have thrown out the case

we are currently in the discovery phase of the trial, which means viacomm is still within the phase of being able to prove that youtube is a willing participant in the copyright infringement (outside the scope of the safe harbor provision).

we are a long way away from the motion to dismiss part of this case.

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07-06-2008, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

I don't believe that. If you look into most of them you will find non-USA, non-Canadian webmasters that don't plan on setting foot on our soil.

So they must be inherently bad because they don't have a desire to live in America? That's a fairly insular view of what the dreams of the world's populous should be.

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07-06-2008, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by testpie

So they must be inherently bad because they don't have a desire to live in America? That's a fairly insular view of what the dreams of the world's populous should be.

For someone that lives in the UK, you sure have a problem comprehending English.
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07-06-2008, 09:48 AM

It doesn't matter if "webmasters" promote brazzers/juggcash because the Programs will promote Brazzers/Juggcash they all trade traffic..

And they don't give a fuck about the industry..

Lookit all of the big programs.. Lookit their members areas.. CRAP.. they don't give a fuck..

Too much money being made in semi-legal arenas....
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07-06-2008, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by baddog

For someone that lives in the UK, you sure have a problem comprehending English.

It's not comprehension I was lacking; it was forgetting to read the quoted text that the post was in response to, and then misinterpreting the semantics behind what was being said.

Or in other words, I managed to fuck up again - many apologies.

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07-06-2008, 09:57 AM

I have lots of their content on my tube site. People love it.
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07-06-2008, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by leroytrolley

Has anybody From Brazzers ever confirmed or denied this allegation?? I've seen this kind of thread here several times over the past 3 months or so.

Originaly they denied,but it was very fast founded how they own it beacuse of matching adress of pornhub managment and brazzers managment.Well beside that,they offered access to brazzers for only 10$,meanwhile i didnt seen such ad on any other site.
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07-06-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by gideongallery

we are currently in the discovery phase of the trial,

we are a long way away from the motion to dismiss part of this case.

Who is "we" I know that you post a LOT about this subject and you always seem to side with the bad guys. Never do I see you post anything supporting the people who work and actually create the material being used by these tube sites to line their pockets with money that they have no business having.
Are you so sympathetic to this abuse and STEALING of money from the pockets of honest webmasters that you now are envisioning yourself in your mind as part of the "defense" in this trial?
What is your agenda anyway? The impression that you are giving me is that you are defending this shit so you can do it too.

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07-06-2008, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by payd2purv

It doesn't matter if "webmasters" promote brazzers/juggcash because the Programs will promote Brazzers/Juggcash they all trade traffic..

And they don't give a fuck about the industry..

Lookit all of the big programs.. Lookit their members areas.. CRAP.. they don't give a fuck..

Too much money being made in semi-legal arenas....

Yes unfortunately it's the truth. This industry was built on spammers and content theft. So I guess tubes are really nothing new.

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07-06-2008, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by crockett

Yes unfortunately it's the truth. This industry was built on spammers and content theft. So I guess tubes are really nothing new.

Not only are all the idiots buddied up but also Brazzers/Jugg doesn't need affiliates promoting them if they are buying spots on all of the illegal tubes and ALL of the surfers are seeing them anyways..

Their ads on the tubes are very well thought out also.. worked right into the design..

Hell they wouldn't even need to buy the spots on the tube.. the sales are worth enuff...

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07-06-2008, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by gideongallery

when you misrepresent copyright infringment as theft you can and in most cases ignore fair use, or previously licienced rights.

When you properly represent copyright infringment as fraudlently claiming a "right to view" the first question you have to answer is did they buy or were given a "right to view" because if have then there IS NO FRAUD.

that being said commit if fraud is worse, because their is no ambeguity (sp) about it, you have no wiggle room, if you have proof they never bought or were given a "right to view" your are stone cold guilty, no if no buts.

we are currently in the discovery phase of the trial, which means viacomm is still within the phase of being able to prove that youtube is a willing participant in the copyright infringement (outside the scope of the safe harbor provision).

we are a long way away from the motion to dismiss part of this case.

Do you wax your balls or something?

What do you do in this industry except for semi-kiss-ass the tube owners?
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07-06-2008, 11:48 AM

Fucking Greed.....I love making lots of money, but not at the cost of being unethical and that is what tube sites are. They can be done legitimately, but I have yet to see one.

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07-06-2008, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Raym

Fucking Greed.....I love making lots of money, but not at the cost of being unethical and that is what tube sites are. They can be done legitimately, but I have yet to see one.

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07-06-2008, 12:17 PM

adultblacklist.com are fucking lowlife thieves too

I have asked them to remove my copyrighted photos numerous times and they have never responded...Pics of a girl I shot that someone posted.

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07-06-2008, 12:39 PM

I am convinced this industry is filled with spineless pussy's that rather whine on a message board rather than do anything about it.

I do not even give a fuck about this kind of thing anymore, I think all affiliate programs should open up a videotube site. May the best content win!

Just give all the shit away for free, ratio's will be fine just keep giving it all away someone might eventually buy something!

Fact is somewhere on the web and in various pockets ALL the content the adult biz has created is free. So whats the big deal right?

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07-06-2008, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Fact is somewhere on the web and in various pockets ALL the content the adult biz has created is free. So whats the big deal right?

Yeah, we really blew it this time... freehosts died once the clickthru/conversions sucked, and no one wanted to link to them due to purposeful 404s by the freehost owners. Today the cam/dating sites are too affraid not to pay these tube sites, because they think competition will buy the same spots and somehow magically make it profitable... and no one really need to link to these tube sites, because the surfers tell their friends like they just found a way to cheat the system without getting caught.

Its a shame really - in no other time in history have so many people needed so much porn, and instead of making a killing on porn itself people want to make money on imaginary pussy (dating) or expensive chitchat (cams)

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07-06-2008, 01:24 PM

This is an industry of survival. Just like prison the weak and moral minded die

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07-06-2008, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by D2222

This is an industry of survival. Just like prison the weak and moral minded die

This board doesn't condone content piracy, copyright infringement. GFY is not an underground forum for spammers and scammers.

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07-06-2008, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by D2222

This is an industry of survival. Just like prison the weak and moral minded die

Ironic thing is, that most of the people running these scams wouldn´t survive, if the rest of us turned this into full blown anarchy

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07-06-2008, 02:32 PM

hehe Bossman the Adult industry is full fledged anarchy.

There is no one leadership, there is no cornerstone in leadership.
The only leaders are the processor's really, as they are the ones that benefit most from transacting what ever they can no matter what the problem is. If processor's stepped forward and thwarted sites like Brazzer's that contributorily infringe on copyrights we might get somewhere.

Unfortunatly the processor's pay no mind cept to those that send them joins, but one can be sure processor's transactions are dropping as well as content becomes more readily available for free.

It is all really upto the processor's to come together and start working with the industry.

CCBILL hides, Netbilling hides, Paycom they all hide and transact for companies that indirectly benefit from content theft. Great guys right? yeah..
They are all awesome stand up folks really. Ya just goto pat them on the back for doing such a service to the industry.

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07-06-2008, 02:34 PM

Its all a matter of the processor's working with everyone on many levels regarding content and copyright not just accounting the money.

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07-06-2008, 02:42 PM

Just look around at the join pages of the contributory infringement site or even the sites that blatantyl steel content.

CCBILL,Paycom, Netbilling and a few others. They are all there in the middle of it, transacting taking the money and laying low while we all pat them on the back for such a
great job of processing everyone LOL!

The more you know about this industry the more gut wrenching fucked it is because all of you get paid by them and love them to the bitter end of the industry. I expect this thread to die now since this one single valid point has come forward and tells you the absolute fucking truth in broad daylight.

None of you can do anything about it, won't do anything about it and infact can NOT do anything about it. You will step right up to one of these processor's rep's at a convention and say nothing but good things with the secret bro hand shake whikle inside they are laughing thier ass off at you.

So like I said... Spineless gutless pussies...
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