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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #1

    Cops may be to blame for Waco shooting

    I found this , read it and now I wonder on the truth of it. I have heard from other sources that no shots were fired inside and the 1 million dollars bond per biker is extreme. I also see that one biker has filed a federal civil rights suit against all of this. Given Waco's bloody past, I find myself wondering as t the validity of this, that it may all be true and that our police force can get away with dealing with what they perceive as a problem by just killing them.


    ____ATF and Texas Kops and Rangers Fired OVER 500 rounds at the Peaceful MC Members Gathered for the Monthly Meeting.
    The Waco Massacre: Peaceful bikers rode into a killing field.

    The ATF was there with their Federal guidance to make sure that justice was swift and absolute.

    No shots were fired by anyone inside the restaurant. No shots were fired by anyone at the police. When bikers decided to leave the restaurant and enter the parking lot, the police began shooting full-auto equipped M-16?s into the crowd. Patrons began diving under tables and screaming for their lives. Little waitresses dropped their trays and ran with terror in their eyes behind the chef?s counter. A twice decorated Viet Nam War veteran was shot in the head and neck, although he was a highly respected pacifist, was unarmed and not involved in any of the scuffle inside the Twin Peaks establishment. Eight more US citizens were gunned down in cold blood. More than 500 rounds were fired by police, hitting cars, buildings, and injuring other innocent bystanders who happened to look like bikers. Two shots took seven of the nine people assassinated in the parking lot; one in the neck and one in the head fired by expert police marksmen.

    Within an hour, the police press statement belched lies about ?criminal biker gangs,? dealing drugs and other things that never happened; not once in the 18 years bikers have been meeting peacefully at the Waco Twin Peaks restaurant. The police spokesman first mentioned hundreds of weapons confiscated, including chains that connected wallets to belt loops. Then they changed it to dozens. Then, the facts showed there were fewer than ten, and one was still holstered by a licensed concealed carry American, who had undergone an extensive background check and was found to be spotless. His bond was placed at an unreasonable $1 million. Of the 170 bikers arrested for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, less than a third had any criminal record. Three of them had drafted a new piece of legislation about biker safety, and have since been awarded by the City Counsel for safety awareness. Of course, they couldn?t be there to accept the award, because they were in jail.

    To this moment, no waitresses, cooks, or patrons have been interviewed by the press. Witness intimidation is in full force making sure no one says anything about what really happened. All surveillance video has been classified and is currently being edited by law enforcement professionals to make sure no officers are charged with murder. This was clearly a premeditated, Federal assault designed to kill first, and arrest the survivors.

    It has been an infuriating eight days, and nothing has been said by the new Attorney General about unarmed citizens gunned down at a Sunday lunch in broad daylight by more than 18 armed policemen, militarized by a new Federal plan. 14 police officers have been placed on administrative leave, their lives changed forever by following orders to shoot Americans in the head. They died while screaming and waving their arms at the police to please stop shooting. There have been no protests and no demonstrations anywhere. Again, the Federal criminal perpetrators have massacred civilians in Waco, Texas. Remember the Branch Davidians burned alive on live national television by Federal troops while then attorney general Janet Reno watched the news at home? America sits idly by and says nothing as our police, sworn to protect and to serve, have been turned into cold-blooded assassins.
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that
  • blackmonsters
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    • Nov 2002
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    #2
    Oh, the cops are wrong this time?

    First time isn't it?

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    • Best-In-BC
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      • Jun 2002
      • 9509

      #3
      LOL, anyone who knows the story, and if having a moral mind set, knows it was instigated.

      But in a world where white people suck the dick of cops no matter what who knows.
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      • Vendzilla
        Biker Gnome
        • Mar 2004
        • 23200

        #4
        Originally posted by blackmonsters
        Oh, the cops are wrong this time?

        First time isn't it?

        I never said they were right, I'm always suspicious of anything law enforcement says. I've been pulled over twice leaving the same bar for minor things, one was no signaling. I told the cop I didn't have to because no one was there to signal to and judges in California will back that up, then he tried to give me a drink test and I refused telling him I didn't trust his judgement since he was clearly profiling anyone that left the bar as being drunk. He let me go, guess he didn't want to deal with it.

        Living in LA, you can drive anywhere and see maybe 10% of the cars having one or more brake lights burnt out, yet cops don't pull you over for that unless they suspect they can get you for something worse.
        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
        think about that

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        • brassmonkey
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          • Sep 2005
          • 77385

          #5
          what happened in waco??
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          • dyna mo
            just a fucking jerk
            • Dec 2008
            • 68184

            #6
            Originally posted by brassmonkey
            what happened in waco??
            according to the guy a few posts up, some whites sucked some cop dicks in waco. everyone knows that.

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            • Rochard
              Jägermeister Test Pilot
              • Dec 2001
              • 75733

              #7
              Originally posted by Vendzilla
              I never said they were right, I'm always suspicious of anything law enforcement says. I've been pulled over twice leaving the same bar for minor things, one was no signaling. I told the cop I didn't have to because no one was there to signal to and judges in California will back that up, then he tried to give me a drink test and I refused telling him I didn't trust his judgement since he was clearly profiling anyone that left the bar as being drunk. He let me go, guess he didn't want to deal with it.

              Living in LA, you can drive anywhere and see maybe 10% of the cars having one or more brake lights burnt out, yet cops don't pull you over for that unless they suspect they can get you for something worse.
              Says the man who drives a motorcycle.
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              • brassmonkey
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                • Sep 2005
                • 77385

                #8
                Originally posted by dyna mo
                according to the guy a few posts up, some whites sucked some cop dicks in waco. everyone knows that.
                what??
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                • dyna mo
                  just a fucking jerk
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 68184

                  #9
                  Originally posted by brassmonkey
                  what??


                  Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                  LOL, anyone who knows the story, and if having a moral mind set, knows it was instigated.

                  But in a world where white people suck the dick of cops no matter what who knows.




                  y'all know my take on it all. we have a cop problem in America and i already stated i bet those 9 dead guys were all shot by the cops. authorities know by now who shot them all too, they already know 4-5 of em were shot in the head by cops. that leaves 4-5



                  trying to understand better this thread title, it suggests the event was going accordingly, we all know it was a scheduled peaceful meeting, scheduled months in advance, so the title here suggests the cops started the killing, not just killed.

                  ????

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                  • brassmonkey
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                    • Sep 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dyna mo


                    y'all know my take on it all. we have a cop problem in America and i already stated i bet those 9 dead guys were all shot by the cops. authorities know by now who shot them all too, they already know 4-5 of em were shot in the head by cops. that leaves 4-5



                    trying to understand better this thread title, it suggests the event was going accordingly, we all know it was a scheduled peaceful meeting, scheduled months in advance, so the title here suggests the cops started the killing, not just killed.

                    ????
                    my kids have never been arrested and no tickets now me im on the other end
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                    • crockett
                      in a van by the river
                      • May 2003
                      • 76818

                      #11
                      Jesus Fucking Christ.. anyone whom can read that article with a straight face and believe a fucking word of it, has to be dumber than a box of rocks.

                      Yes, I'm sure the cops killed the majority of the bikers but they were hardly "peaceful" and were certainly causing problems.

                      Tell us Vendzilla which right wing extreme I hate the federal govt website did you pull this shit from? I bet their other top story is "Obama uses storm machine to flood Texas in pre-cursor to military take over"..
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                      • crockett
                        in a van by the river
                        • May 2003
                        • 76818

                        #12
                        As I suspected.. "Vendzilla's secret sauce"...

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                        Fuck.. I'm just gonna make a Right wing extremist webpage and just make shit up and sell T-shirts. These fucking people are the most gullible people I've ever seen in my life..
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                        • bronco67
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                          • Dec 2006
                          • 29026

                          #13
                          You poor, victimized outlaw bikers. You're just another type of minority held down by the man.

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                          • Just Alex
                            Liv Benson to You, Bitch
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6060

                            #14
                            White people rioting in Waco

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                            • sonofsam
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                              • Dec 2004
                              • 18647

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bronco67
                              You poor, victimized outlaw bikers. You're just another type of minority held down by the man.
                              You just called Vendzilla an outlaw biker. Do you have any idea how happy you made this loser? Hahahahaha

                              He's going to screenshot that message, print it out and beat off to it every night for the next 20 years
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                              • sonofsam
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                                • Dec 2004
                                • 18647

                                #16
                                Vendzilla: how much in royalties do you get from them basing "Sons of anarchy" around your day to day life?
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                                • blackmonsters
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                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 20992

                                  #17
                                  So the cops attacked the bikers and killed 9 of them and then let the rest of the bikers use their cell phones?


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                                  • Just Alex
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                                    • Aug 2007
                                    • 6060

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                    So the cops attacked the bikers and killed 9 of them and then let the rest of the bikers use their cell phones?


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                                    • TCLGirls
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                                      • Feb 2010
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                                      #19
                                      When cops kill white people, they could be wrong.

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                                      • RyuLion
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 32364

                                        #20
                                        lol.......

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                                        • Socks
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                                          • May 2002
                                          • 8475

                                          #21
                                          Article *may* be biased.

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                                          • kane
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Aug 2001
                                            • 20684

                                            #22
                                            I get being in a biker gang if you are a criminal, but if you are just doing it for fun and to hang out it seems kind of sad and pathetic.

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                                            • Vendzilla
                                              Biker Gnome
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 23200

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                              Says the man who drives a motorcycle.
                                              I have never been pulled over on a bike, as a rule I even ride a little faster than traffic because I believe it's safer to not worry about someone hitting you from behind.

                                              I applaud the new law that they are passing for splitting lanes. It's legal to do under California law, but this will spell it out better.
                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                              think about that

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                                              • Vendzilla
                                                Biker Gnome
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 23200

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bronco67
                                                You poor, victimized outlaw bikers. You're just another type of minority held down by the man.
                                                500 rounds they spent , you don't see a problem with that?
                                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                think about that

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                                                • Vendzilla
                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 23200

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by kane
                                                  I get being in a biker gang if you are a criminal, but if you are just doing it for fun and to hang out it seems kind of sad and pathetic.
                                                  It's the cops that call it a gang, they call it a club. Most of them are working regular jobs, too many people think Sons Of Anarchy is real, it isn't.
                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                  think about that

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                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 23200

                                                    #26
                                                    Also, there is a report that the judge is requiring the arrested to sign a waiver to not sue the police in favor of a reduced bail amount.
                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                    think about that

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                                                    • L-Pink
                                                      working on my tan
                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                      • 39151

                                                      #27
                                                      500 rounds nine dead. First rule of shooting a firearm is be sure of your target before pulling the trigger.

                                                      So ..... anyway you look at it pretty piss-poor shooting.

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                                                      • kane
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 20684

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                        It's the cops that call it a gang, they call it a club. Most of them are working regular jobs, too many people think Sons Of Anarchy is real, it isn't.
                                                        Which, I guess is my point. I understand being in a gang if you are criminal because you are working together to make more money and protect each other during your criminal activities. However, if it's just a group of guys getting together to ride it all seems kind of odd that grown men would name their club and dress alike just because they want to hang out and ride bikes.

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                                                        • Just Alex
                                                          Liv Benson to You, Bitch
                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                          • 6060

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                                          When cops kill white people, they could be wrong.
                                                          Isn't it? Too bad non-black people are 86% of this country yet they commit as much crime as the other 14%. Fuck them white privilege bitches.

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                                                          • pornmasta
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                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                            • 19811

                                                            #30
                                                            :wehateporn:

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                                                            • Rochard
                                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                              • 75733

                                                              #31
                                                              You betcha.

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                                                              • Penny24Seven
                                                                So Fucking What
                                                                • Jun 2007
                                                                • 6287

                                                                #32
                                                                Bikers lives matter
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                                                                • TCLGirls
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                                                                  • Feb 2010
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  When cops kill white people, lets focus on why it was wrong...but when cops kill black people, lets focus on why it was right.

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                                                                  • dyna mo
                                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                    • 68184

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Let's focus on the cop problem in America.

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                                                                    • _Richard_
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                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                      • 30989

                                                                      #35
                                                                      yea the video goes a long way to show how fucked up the official story was

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                                                                      • RazorSharpe
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                        It's the cops that call it a gang, they call it a club. Most of them are working regular jobs, too many people think Sons Of Anarchy is real, it isn't.
                                                                        Hold on, so you're saying the 1%er thing is a myth?
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                                                                        • lock
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          So i read the whole post and all i see now is stripes. Eyes are gone with the GFY background.
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                                                                          • bronco67
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                                                                            • Dec 2006
                                                                            • 29026

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                                                            When cops kill white people, they could be wrong.
                                                                            haha exactly.

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                                                                            • crockett
                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 76818

                                                                              #39
                                                                              How come it's suddenly a cop problem when it's a bunch of mostly white bikers many of which are criminals and belong to criminal groups. However if it's a black guy then it's "he deserved it for not listening"..
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                                                                              • brassmonkey
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                                                                When cops kill white people, lets focus on why it was wrong...but when cops kill black people, lets focus on why it was right.
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                                                                                • _Richard_
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                                                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                                                  • 30989

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                  How come it's suddenly a cop problem when it's a bunch of mostly white bikers many of which are criminals and belong to criminal groups. However if it's a black guy then it's "he deserved it for not listening"..
                                                                                  i don't understand the desire to make this a 'white & black' issue..

                                                                                  the bikers weren't 'all white', and the story put forward by the police seems to be extraordinarily different in the face of evidence.. just like everything else

                                                                                  shouldn't this be an amalgamating event? rather than yet another way to divide and conquer?

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                                                                                  • dyna mo
                                                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                                    • 68184

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                    How come it's suddenly a cop problem when it's a bunch of mostly white bikers many of which are criminals and belong to criminal groups. However if it's a black guy then it's "he deserved it for not listening"..
                                                                                    since you used the phrase "cop problem", i'm going to assume you are asking me.

                                                                                    you can search gfy for "cop problem in America" and see for yourself that there is nothing sudden about the fact that i've pointed out we have a cop problem in America often and for a long while now.

                                                                                    you can complicate that problem by making it race issue, i don't do that.

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                                                                                    • L-Pink
                                                                                      working on my tan
                                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                                      • 39151

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                      How come it's suddenly a cop problem when it's a bunch of mostly white bikers many of which are criminals and belong to criminal groups. However if it's a black guy then it's "he deserved it for not listening"..

                                                                                      Anyone who finds themselves "in custody" and "doesn't listen" is an idiot.


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                                                                                      • Vendzilla
                                                                                        Biker Gnome
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 23200

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by kane
                                                                                        Which, I guess is my point. I understand being in a gang if you are criminal because you are working together to make more money and protect each other during your criminal activities. However, if it's just a group of guys getting together to ride it all seems kind of odd that grown men would name their club and dress alike just because they want to hang out and ride bikes.
                                                                                        Doesn't sound much different than the Shriners, except with clown cars
                                                                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                        think about that

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                                                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 23200

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                                                          Hold on, so you're saying the 1%er thing is a myth?
                                                                                          It's not a myth and that's not what the 1% means
                                                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                          think about that

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                                                                                          • Ferus
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            "only" one third had a criminal record.. Only?

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