what's going to happen if it's determined the cops killed all 9 waco bikers?

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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184

    #1

    what's going to happen if it's determined the cops killed all 9 waco bikers?

    i betcha they killed most all, if not all of them.
  • bushwacker
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2002
    • 2817

    #2
    Not much, paid administrative leave.

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    • Socks
      Confirmed User
      • May 2002
      • 8475

      #3
      Well, for one I imagine there will be strict new policies on time spent at the gun range for shooting practice.

      You can't run a gang in 2015 like that. Guys need to be able to shoot straight.

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      • bronco67
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2006
        • 29032

        #4
        I know cops were already at the scene (outside the bar), but wasn't all of the shooting inside? And if so, wouldn't a cop be justified to use his weapon if outlaw bikers are shooting?

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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184

          #5
          Originally posted by bronco67
          I know cops were already at the scene (outside the bar), but wasn't all of the shooting inside? And if so, wouldn't a cop be justified to use his weapon if outlaw bikers are shooting?
          the latest accounts purport that the shooting erupted outside, with only 1 shot fired by a biker on the patio. the reports claim there is a video supporting this.

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          • dyna mo
            just a fucking jerk
            • Dec 2008
            • 68184

            #6
            not saying this is accurate, but it is a different accounting of events from the official story

            When the restaurant refused to ban the Confederation of Clubs, police stationed at least 22 cops including ten Swat officers from the Waco P.D. and the Texas Department of Public Safety in the parking lot outside the restaurant. They did not station either uniformed or plain clothes officers in the restaurant.

            The shove in the bathroom became a scuffle in the restaurant. When about 30 Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars and other bikers spilled into the parking between the Twin peaks and the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant next door, the police were waiting for them. The scuffle became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons. Multiple sources have told The Aging Rebel that all of the dead were killed by police.

            Biker Truthers Emerge Calling Waco Shootout a 'Police Massacre'

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            • TCLGirls
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2010
              • 3068

              #7
              911 caller heard shots before cops even arrived. So even if the dead bikers were all shot by cops, it is legitimate since those bikers were shooting other bikers first. (assuming the dead bikers were also shooters).

              Just because the bikers were shooting at other bikers, and may not have been shooting at cops, doesn't mean the cops can't shoot at the bikers.

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              • Markul
                Likes Pie
                • Dec 2007
                • 12403

                #8
                They get medals...?
                But.... I pulled out...

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                • Vendzilla
                  Biker Gnome
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23200

                  #9
                  Well nothing happened the last time law enforcement killed a bunch of people in Waco Texas. I know one thing, I would never live there!
                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                  think about that

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                  • dyna mo
                    just a fucking jerk
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 68184

                    #10
                    there are at least 2 claims that some killed/injured by gunfire were not part of the melee. the restaurant was a biker destination and had bike nights etc, the claim is these guys weren't there as a part of the meeting.

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #11
                      There is so much bullshit coming out about that event; it will definitely be interesting to see what the autopsies reveal.

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                      • Vendzilla
                        Biker Gnome
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 23200

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        there are at least 2 claims that some killed/injured by gunfire were not part of the melee. the restaurant was a biker destination and had bike nights etc, the claim is these guys weren't there as a part of the meeting.
                        I read the staff has been fired, they had been warned about what they were doing. Most places don't allow cuts to be warn
                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                        think about that

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                        • blackmonsters
                          Making PHP work
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 20960

                          #13
                          So the cops know about the meeting and they set up outside just in case something goes wrong but nobody has a body cam or even a dash cam running?
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                          • dyna mo
                            just a fucking jerk
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 68184

                            #14
                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                            So the cops know about the meeting and they set up outside just in case something goes wrong but nobody has a body cam or even a dash cam running?
                            shocker!

                            i'm also wondering where this formal request is, the one made by the cops, they claim, to have twin peaks not allow the event. certainly if they were so concerned they stationed dozens of cops/swat there, there would be a paper trail of an official request like that.

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                            • editeur
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 252

                              #15
                              So, as the most victims are from 'Cossacs' gang and it was the police who stationed near the scene and opened the fire, we may make an assumption that this rival 'Bandidos' gang is, in fact, largely pigs' undercover agents and snitches. Pigs just got 'it's dangerous' signal fro the inside, come to save their collegues and opened deadly fire.
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                              • baddog
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089

                                #16
                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                shocker!

                                i'm also wondering where this formal request is, the one made by the cops, they claim, to have twin peaks not allow the event. certainly if they were so concerned they stationed dozens of cops/swat there, there would be a paper trail of an official request like that.
                                The restaurant chain said no such request was made (at least from secondary reports I read which have all seemed to contradict the initial reports).

                                Originally posted by editeur
                                So, as the most victims are from 'Cossacs' gang and it was the police who stationed near the scene and opened the fire, we may make an assumption that this rival 'Bandidos' gang is, in fact, largely pigs' undercover agents and snitches. Pigs just got 'it's dangerous' signal fro the inside, come to save their collegues and opened deadly fire.
                                One would think that idiocy such as yours would have been noticed before, but this is the first time I recall seeing your name.

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                                • crockett
                                  in a van by the river
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 76818

                                  #17
                                  I said at the start of this, that I bet the cops shot them all. It makes no sense that 170 bikers would willingly be arrested if they had just killed people in a gun fight. They would have turned the guns on the cops and tried to get away.

                                  I'm betting they were duking it out, the cops got scared of the number of bikers and started shooting.
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                                  • sicone
                                    Retired
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 18453

                                    #18
                                    Nothing will happen. The will be a lot of saber rattling in the news but at the end of the day, the event will be pushed to the back burner and forgotten as soon as possible.

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                                    • PornoMonster
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 2257

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                      I read the staff has been fired, they had been warned about what they were doing. Most places don't allow cuts to be warn
                                      The franchise license was pulled.
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                                      • takethebluepill
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Dec 2014
                                        • 241

                                        #20
                                        Hopefully suspended or fired.

                                        Only 9 bikers killed? That is disgraceful. A good cop would have been able to bag 10 or more of these parasites and still had time to go back into the diner for a coffee.

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                                        • Rochard
                                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 75733

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                          911 caller heard shots before cops even arrived. So even if the dead bikers were all shot by cops, it is legitimate since those bikers were shooting other bikers first. (assuming the dead bikers were also shooters).

                                          Just because the bikers were shooting at other bikers, and may not have been shooting at cops, doesn't mean the cops can't shoot at the bikers.
                                          Cops were on the scene before any shooting began.
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                                          • dyna mo
                                            just a fucking jerk
                                            • Dec 2008
                                            • 68184

                                            #22
                                            there were more than outlaw bikers at that restaurant the cops were shooting into. there were non-outlaw bikers, there were patrons dining, both outside and inside that were not even bikers, and all the employees.

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                                            • Vendzilla
                                              Biker Gnome
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 23200

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by PornoMonster
                                              The franchise license was pulled.
                                              I stand corrected, that is what I read. They can always reopen under a new name
                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                              think about that

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                                              • _Richard_
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Oct 2006
                                                • 30991

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                the latest accounts purport that the shooting erupted outside, with only 1 shot fired by a biker on the patio. the reports claim there is a video supporting this.
                                                i heard video has backed this up

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                                                • Grapesoda
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 46238

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                  i betcha they killed most all, if not all of them.
                                                  bikers lives matter

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                                                  • dyna mo
                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                    • 68184

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                    bikers lives matter
                                                    i get it!

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                                                    • Vendzilla
                                                      Biker Gnome
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 23200

                                                      #27
                                                      Just read where one of the bikers killed was a purple heart recipient.
                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                      think about that

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                                                      • dyna mo
                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                        • 68184

                                                        #28
                                                        'Criminal Meeting' of Bikers in Waco was Actually Organized Political Gathering

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