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  • Antonio
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    • Oct 2001
    • 14136
    #1

    do you know shit about electricity???

    got a new oven and have to connect the cable - it has a wiring diagram that has L N and PE

    what is L, what is N, and what is PE? I'm guessing these are the three wires that have to be connected but which is which?????

    nothing in the manual, it's driving me nuts!!!!
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    • Juicy D. Links
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      • Apr 2001
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      #2
      I dont mess with electricity , Ii am always afraid ill kill myself or something

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        • Ravage
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          • Mar 2007
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          #3
          What are the colors? White, Black and Red?

          Anyways, check this site out - Stove wiring stuff
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            • human
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              • Aug 2004
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              #4
              be careful! ;)
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                • Vick!
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                  • Nov 2005
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by Antonio
                  what is L, what is N, and what is PE? I'm guessing these are the three wires that have to be connected but which is which?????
                  L is "Live", N is "Neutral", and PE is "Protective Earth"

                  In the figure below, two rectangle ones are L and N (connect in any order), and round or semi-round is PE.



                  Assuming its a 3-pin plug. For 2-pin, just connect L and N (in any order) and leave PE alone.
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                    • Antonio
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                      • Oct 2001
                      • 14136
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Platinum ChrisM
                      What are the colors? White, Black and Red?

                      Anyways, check this site out - Stove wiring stuff
                      no wires sticking out so no colors, I'm chekcing out the site

                      Originally posted by Vick!
                      L is "Live", N is "Neutral", and PE is "Protective Earth"

                      In the figure below, two rectangle ones are L and N (connect in any order), and round or semi-round is PE.

                      Assuming its a 3-pin plug. For 2-pin, just connect L and N (in any order) and leave PE alone.
                      its a 2 pin plug but they also have 3 wires, so I guess the earth cable goes to PE and L and N to their places, I'll do some more reading, then unplug everything in my flat, connect the oven, turn it on, and see how it goes ;)

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                        • Violetta
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                          • Jul 2004
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                          #7
                          Im a total noob at stuff like that!
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                            • Vick!
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                              • Nov 2005
                              • 6882
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Antonio
                              its a 2 pin plug but they also have 3 wires, so I guess the earth cable goes to PE and L and N to their places, I'll do some more reading, then unplug everything in my flat, connect the oven, turn it on, and see how it goes ;)
                              If you can post the pics of wires, plug and wall socket .. I will be able to help you even better. It would save the potential damage.
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                                • tranza
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                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 57559
                                  #9
                                  Be careful...some really bad things can happen when you try to do something you don't know about eletricity.
                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                    • MichelleB
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                                      • Aug 2007
                                      • 1146
                                      #10
                                      I only know about automotive electrical, sorry.

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                                        • Antonio
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                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 14136
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Vick!
                                          If you can post the pics of wires, plug and wall socket .. I will be able to help you even better. It would save the potential damage.
                                          OK, I'll need a minute

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                                            • SuzzyQ
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                                              • Dec 2006
                                              • 1557
                                              #12
                                              If memory serves me correctly. White is L. Black is N and PE is green.

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                                                • Antonio
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                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 14136
                                                  #13
                                                  ok, the plug - the brown went to the left pin, the blue to the right pin, and the yellow/green went to the middle (99% sure this is the earth thingy)



                                                  this is the wiring diagram (mine 220V so the one on the left) - shitty pic no idea hot to take from that close:



                                                  thinking of diong this (this is where the cables should go), L (blue) and N(brown) can be swithced of course, PE - the yellow/green:



                                                  does it look right?

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                                                    • Vick!
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                                                      • Nov 2005
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Antonio
                                                      ok, the plug - the brown went to the left pin, the blue to the right pin, and the yellow/green went to the middle (99% sure this is the earth thingy)
                                                      yeah, this is right. If you using 2-pin plug, you can leave yellow/green unused.

                                                      Originally posted by Antonio
                                                      thinking of diong this (this is where the cables should go), L (blue) and N(brown) can be swithced of course, PE - the yellow/green:

                                                      does it look right?
                                                      Even though pic is not clear, but what you are doing is perfectly alright. Go ahead, nothing bad gonna happen.
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                                                        • TyroneGoldberg
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                                                          • Sep 2007
                                                          • 1081
                                                          #15
                                                          you should be ok if you connect ground to ground. that diagram was shitty can't tell what is what. the worse thing that'll happen is you popping the breaker if wired wrong.

                                                          neutral is almost always on the same side as the ground.. are you in the US?

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                                                            • MichelleB
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                                                              • Aug 2007
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                                                              #16
                                                              I'm waiting for the outcome. I hope everything goes alright.

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                                                                • florin
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                                                                  • Sep 2007
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                                                                  yep.. it can kill you(-:

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                                                                    • pornguy
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                                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      I would hire someone who does know.
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                                                                        • qxm
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                                                                          hollyshit mon... takin' random advice from GFYers will get your house blown out of the map......

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                                                                            • The Heron
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                                                                              • Apr 2001
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Electricity won't hurt you, just plug it in and see if it works!

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                                                                                • nivram45
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                                                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                                                  • 94
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  That oven is not user friendly...

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                                                                                    • kicks
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                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                      • 221
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Turn off power, connect the ground, it is part of the electrical system and it is bonded elsewhere to the neutral conductor. Never leave a ground not connected if at all possible to connect it.

                                                                                      The rest is correct looking at the picture of the terminal block. L= Line in this case... I guess it could be called "Live" *shrug* the key is it is the Hot Wire. The neutral connects to the other one.
                                                                                      Plug in appliance, and turn on breaker, test oven. Note if the ground if not properly connected the breaker may not trip as designed.

                                                                                      Please remember electricity can kill you dead and you get few second chances.

                                                                                      Best advice is to follow these instructions:
                                                                                      #1 Call Professional to do the work
                                                                                      #2 Open a Beer and wait for serviceman
                                                                                      #3 Watch guy do about 5 minutes of work he will stretch to 10 minutes
                                                                                      #4 Test the Oven
                                                                                      #5 Pay the man the one hour min service call
                                                                                      #6 Open another Beer, you got the oven hooked up and deserve it!
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                                                                                        • TubeTitans_SusieQ
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Oh man you guys just confused the crap outta me with this shit





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                                                                                            • Tom_PM
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                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                              • 16443
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              All I know is this. Whether you hook it up right or wrong, that oven is gonna cook something.

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                                                                                                • Antonio
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                  • 14136
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  you wanna know what happened???? ok. I'll give you a clue ....... "da roof, da roof ......."






































                                                                                                  nah, kidding, it worked !!!



                                                                                                  special thanks to Vick and all of you guys !

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                                                                                                    • carol.prime
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
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                                                                                                      hooopps, ill pass. don't have any idea.
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                                                                                                        • Isradude
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by The Heron
                                                                                                          Electricity won't hurt you, just plug it in and see if it works!


                                                                                                          yah, do that ......
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                                                                                                            • kicks
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                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Antonio
                                                                                                              you wanna know what happened???? ok. I'll give you a clue ....... "da roof, da roof ......."
                                                                                                              nah, kidding, it worked !!!

                                                                                                              special thanks to Vick and all of you guys !
                                                                                                              Congrats, still hope you connected the ground.
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                                                                                                                • borked
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                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                  • 6284
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  jesus, you were lucky - if you connected the live to the earth connection, the second you touched the unit, you would have fried.

                                                                                                                  Always ALWAYS -
                                                                                                                  Earth is green and yellow cable
                                                                                                                  Blue is neutral
                                                                                                                  any other colour is live.

                                                                                                                  Earth is always marked on a unit with a kind of uside-down pyramid made from horizontal lines, with a little stick on the to


                                                                                                                  It's true that live and neutral can be wired either way in a lug and the thing will work, but on induction hobs (and shit like washing machines that turn), for maximum life the the live of the plug should always correspond to live in the socket (usually the right-hand socket pin)

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                                                                                                                    • MichelleB
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                                                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                      • 1146
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Antonio
                                                                                                                      you wanna know what happened???? ok. I'll give you a clue ....... "da roof, da roof ......."






































                                                                                                                      nah, kidding, it worked !!!



                                                                                                                      special thanks to Vick and all of you guys !
                                                                                                                      Congratulations! Good job.

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                                                                                                                        • borked
                                                                                                                          Totally Borked
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                          • 6284
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Yeah, as you're 220V, I'm guessing you're in Euroe and that plug looks identical to the ones here in France.

                                                                                                                          One way to remember which pin in a plug is which, the earth is always the one that isn't a pin (the hole) and of the other two, look at the pins and then repeat this:
                                                                                                                          Live is on the Left as you Look at the pLug

                                                                                                                          and from that ciruit diagram you did good - you can see the earth is making a connection to the actual unit, so you know that's the earth. The one with 3 screws all interconnected is the live as it also will work if you have 3-phase supply (triphasé). And neutral has two interconnected pins as some 3phase installations use 2 neutrals too.


                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Antonio
                                                                                                                          ok, the plug - the brown went to the left pin, the blue to the right pin, and the yellow/green went to the middle (99% sure this is the earth thingy)



                                                                                                                          this is the wiring diagram (mine 220V so the one on the left) - shitty pic no idea hot to take from that close:



                                                                                                                          thinking of diong this (this is where the cables should go), L (blue) and N(brown) can be swithced of course, PE - the yellow/green:



                                                                                                                          does it look right?
                                                                                                                          Last edited by borked; 06-26-2008, 08:18 AM.

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                                                                                                                            • Axelo9
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                                                                                                                              • Aug 2007
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                                                                                                                              my advice! DON'T PLAY WITH ELECTRICITY , PAY SOMEONE TO DO THE JOB DONT BE CHEAP ! good luck >

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                                                                                                                                • Vick!
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Antonio
                                                                                                                                  special thanks to Vick and all of you guys !
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                                                                                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Vick!
                                                                                                                                      L is "Live", N is "Neutral", and PE is "Protective Earth"

                                                                                                                                      In the figure below, two rectangle ones are L and N (connect in any order), and round or semi-round is PE.



                                                                                                                                      Assuming its a 3-pin plug. For 2-pin, just connect L and N (in any order) and leave PE alone.
                                                                                                                                      I agree with most of what he said, but you really should ground it (PE). Your outlet should already be grounded (if a three pin outlet).

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                                                                                                                                        • Sid70
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                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                          I dont mess with electricity , Ii am always afraid ill kill myself or something
                                                                                                                                          same shit.
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                                                                                                                                            • Kudles
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                                                                                                                                                • lookatthis
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                                                                                                                                                  put the red wire on your cock and the black in your ear

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                                                                                                                                                    • SuzzyQ
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                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by lookatthis
                                                                                                                                                      put the red wire on your cock and the black in your ear

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                                                                                                                                                        • Taass
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by borked
                                                                                                                                                          It's true that live and neutral can be wired either way in a lug and the thing will work, but on induction hobs (and shit like washing machines that turn), for maximum life the the live of the plug should always correspond to live in the socket (usually the right-hand socket pin)
                                                                                                                                                          Think your confusing this with 400 Volt (3 phase) machines.

                                                                                                                                                          In 220 Volt DC it makes no difference on lifespan or functionality how you switch your phase and neutral

                                                                                                                                                          ..one place you do want to get it right though is in your lamp sockets
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                                                                                                                                                            • jakethedog
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                                                                                                                                                              damn problem solved .. I was waiting for the BBQ pix .. hair all standing on end and smoke coming from your ears .. jk ..
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                                                                                                                                                                  Congrats! I wouldn't have done it, I would have ended up toast.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Vick!
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                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by borked
                                                                                                                                                                      Always ALWAYS -

                                                                                                                                                                      Blue is neutral
                                                                                                                                                                      Wrong.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • eightmotives
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                                                                                                                                                                          All this oven talk is making me hot and bothered.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • _Richard_
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                                                                                                                                                                              your stove has a 2-pin plug? that's fucking nuts!

                                                                                                                                                                              go get a proper 3-pin.. you're going to want that ground

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