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  • Dirty F
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    Prof Richard Lynn's study shows that people who believe in God have a lower IQ

    Stupid people are more likely than eggheads to believe in God, a controversial new study claims.

    In a move that is bound to offend millions of churchgoers, a British psychologist says he has found a link between having a high IQ and being an atheist...read more:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-lower-IQ.html

    Anyway, i just wonder wtf he needed a study to figure that out.
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    • TheSenator
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      Only God could have made that study possible.
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      • Blazed
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        #4
        One of the few exceptions was America - a high IQ country where only 10 per cent of people don't believe in God.
        So if 90% of americans believe in god, then america is...STUPID?

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        • pornguy
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          #5
          Hate to say this, but I did not need to do a study to come to the same conclusion.

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          • Dirty F
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            #6
            Originally posted by Blazed
            So if 90% of americans believe in god, then america is...STUPID?
            Well yes obviously Americans have a lower IQ than many other people from western countries but if you read the text instead of being a smart ass right away you will see that America is kinda of an expection.

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            • Dirty F
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              #7
              Originally posted by Blazed
              So if 90% of americans believe in god, then america is...STUPID?
              Anyway, you answered your own question man. From every 10 people you see on the street 9 of them believe in an invisible dude in the sky who had a son who got back from being dead and then flew to heaven which doesnt exist. And youre asking me if those people are stupid?

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              • Isradude
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                #8
                i believe in god ....... but i don't understand what you just said ....
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                • Dirty F
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                  #9
                  There are only 25 countries with smarter people than the US



                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_...lth_of_Nations

                  And i'm pretty sure that from that top 25 the US is the most reglious country. There you have your study

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                  • Dirty F
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                    #10
                    And you know whats funny. Every religious American who sees those stats will think "well that doesnt include me" but heres the funny part: It does.

                    YOU are reglious, American and therefore more stupid than a shitload of other people and nothing you can do about it. Stats don't lie: orglaugh

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                    • Dirty F
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                      • BradM
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                        #12
                        It's not just IQ, it's common sense. That's the big one.

                        If you believe in invisible magic old men in the sky, how can you operate on a daily basis? How can you be a competent person?

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                        • O MARINA
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                          #13
                          My ex and I have had our share of religion-themed cavalcades he refused to believe that I'm god

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                          • GatorB
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Blazed
                            So if 90% of americans believe in god, then america is...STUPID?
                            Well we did elect Bush TWICE. And one time when he got LESS votes than the other guy.

                            I suspect if you poll all the Americans in Mensa you get much higher % of atheists than you get in the general population.

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                            • candyflip
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dirty F
                              There are only 25 countries with smarter people than the US



                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_...lth_of_Nations

                              And i'm pretty sure that from that top 25 the US is the most reglious country. There you have your study
                              While the US is definitely bigger than Italy, I'd have to say that they might give the US a run for it's money.

                              The most religious people I know here in the states are all Catholic Italians.

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                              • Agent 488
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                                #16
                                that's probably true. don't run into too many stupid atheists.

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                                • The Judge
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                                  #17
                                  That depends on what is your definition of God, for some superior ethnic minorities God = $

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                                    Duh.....
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by O MARINA
                                      My ex and I have had our share of religion-themed cavalcades he refused to believe that I'm god
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                                        • Jens Van Assterdam
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by O MARINA
                                          My ex and I have had our share of religion-themed cavalcades he refused to believe that I'm god
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                                          • Scott McD
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                                            People who believe in god probably still believe in the tooth fairy too...


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                                            • The Judge
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                                              #23
                                              That study is not very accurate, it puts Ireland in place 36 India in place 60. There are numerous astonishingly clever and phenomenally successful businessmen that are East Indian.

                                              Originally posted by Dirty F
                                              There are only 25 countries with smarter people than the US



                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_...lth_of_Nations

                                              And i'm pretty sure that from that top 25 the US is the most reglious country. There you have your study

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                                              • Dirty F
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Judge
                                                There are numerous astonishingly clever and phenomenally successful businessmen that are East Indian.

                                                Yeah because 20,000 very successful smart businessmen would raise the very low IQ of 1,2 billion people right? Do you know how stats work?

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                                                • GatorB
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                  Yeah because 20,000 very successful smart businessmen would raise the very low IQ of 1,2 billion people right? Do you know how stats work?
                                                  I guess he doesn't realize that in India even if you're "one in a million" that means there's 1000 more exactly like you.

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                                                  • The Judge
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                                                    Because there are 1.2 billion of them his sampling error could be way off. If you or any of your countrymen would try to make a living of East Indians you would starve to death. Try it. So yes, they are smarter than you.

                                                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                    Yeah because 20,000 very successful smart businessmen would raise the very low IQ of 1,2 billion people right? Do you know how stats work?

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                                                    • Dirty F
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by The Judge
                                                      Because there are 1.2 billion of them his sampling error could be way off. If you or any of your countrymen would try to make a living of East Indians you would starve to death. Try it. So yes, they are smarter than you.


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                                                      How old are you? Thats a serious question.

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                                                      • Dirty F
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Judge
                                                        If you or any of your countrymen would try to make a living of East Indians you would starve to death. Try it. So yes, they are smarter than you.
                                                        Do you know what IQ is? Thats also a serious. Because you already showed you dont know how stats work and i also am pretty damn sure you dont understand the definition of IQ.

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                                                        • marcop
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                          Anyway, you answered your own question man. From every 10 people you see on the street 9 of them believe in an invisible dude in the sky who had a son who got back from being dead and then flew to heaven which doesnt exist. And youre asking me if those people are stupid?

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                                                          • The Judge
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                                                            I don't think your DNA is 100% dutch, you are too short for a Dutchman, must have been mixed with some other crap. But to answer your question:

                                                            "The two most striking exceptions, however, may be Ireland and the United States. Ireland, whose average I.Q. is listed at 93, has the fourth highest per capita GDP (PPP adjusted) of any country in the world (after tiny Luxembourg, Norway and the United States).[7][8] The United States, with an average I.Q. of 98, has the third-highest per capita GDP (PPP adjusted), and is by far the most populous of the richest 10 countries."

                                                            AND

                                                            "The number of participants in each study was usually limited, often numbering under a few hundred. The exceptions to this were the United States and Japan, for which studies using more than several thousand participants are available."

                                                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                            Do you know what IQ is? Thats also a serious. Because you already showed you dont know how stats work and i also am pretty damn sure you dont understand the definition of IQ.

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                                                            • _Richard_
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                                                              Prof Gordon Lynch of Birkbeck College, London, said the study had failed to take into account complicated economic, historical and social factors that explained different IQ and 'faith' levels in countries.


                                                              he's like a shock-scientist

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                                                              • the alchemist
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                                                                #32
                                                                Well duh... They needed a study to know that? Wow.
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                                                                • Dirty F
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by The Judge
                                                                  I don't think your DNA is 100% dutch, you are too short for a Dutchman, must have been mixed with some other crap. But to answer your question:

                                                                  "The two most striking exceptions, however, may be Ireland and the United States. Ireland, whose average I.Q. is listed at 93, has the fourth highest per capita GDP (PPP adjusted) of any country in the world (after tiny Luxembourg, Norway and the United States).[7][8] The United States, with an average I.Q. of 98, has the third-highest per capita GDP (PPP adjusted), and is by far the most populous of the richest 10 countries."

                                                                  AND

                                                                  "The number of participants in each study was usually limited, often numbering under a few hundred. The exceptions to this were the United States and Japan, for which studies using more than several thousand participants are available."
                                                                  Huh? Why do you come up with random quotes

                                                                  I asked you do you know how stats work and IQ because i suspect you dont. I wonder what youre gonna quote next as an answer

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                                                                  • Dirty F
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by The Judge
                                                                    "The number of participants in each study was usually limited, often numbering under a few hundred.
                                                                    Even if this is supposed to be an answer than your first suggestion about smart businessmen is still totally retarded. I'll let you figure out yourself why

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                                                                    • BradM
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                      Even if this is supposed to be an answer than your first suggestion about smart businessmen is still totally retarded. I'll let you figure out yourself why
                                                                      Seems he doesn't really know.

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                                                                      • Big Red Machine
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                                                                        So people that are free thinking are smarter than people that follow....wow

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                                                                        • Dirty F
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                                                                          Haha The Judge has left the thread

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                                                                          • gideongallery
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                                                                            i hope your smart enough to realize that this conclusion is an Existential fallacy.

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                                                                            • Kudles
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                                                                              I believe it. My brother is a total god freak and he's completely retarded!!!!
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                                                                              • NE1469
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                Huh? Why do you come up with random quotes

                                                                                I asked you do you know how stats work and IQ because i suspect you dont. I wonder what youre gonna quote next as an answer
                                                                                How about Americans only represent 6% of the world population and are 30% of the Nobel prize winners.

                                                                                What I find funny is a 4'11 dutch twink that's typing in English trying to earn American dollars being an annoying sig whore. My option would be suicide if I had to do the same on a Dutch porn forum. Fucking loser.

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                                                                                • AnniKN
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                  There are only 25 countries with smarter people than the US



                                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_...lth_of_Nations

                                                                                  And i'm pretty sure that from that top 25 the US is the most reglious country. There you have your study
                                                                                  Also, many of these IQ estimates (mainly in third world countries) are based on results of tests that are affected by poor education - in many developing countries you often find that people are really clever in average, but well... schools suck.

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                                                                                  • Taass
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                    There are only 25 countries with smarter people than the US



                                                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_...lth_of_Nations

                                                                                    And i'm pretty sure that from that top 25 the US is the most reglious country. There you have your study
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                                                                                    • Penny24Seven
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      here we go again, just the fact that you think you are smarter just because you were born in a different place and wear wooden shoes is enough to show how stupid you are.
                                                                                      America is made up of people from a bunch of different countries and the fact is most that do not believe in god do not want to admit it.
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                                                                                      • Penny24Seven
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by NE1469
                                                                                        How about Americans only represent 6% of the world population and are 30% of the Nobel prize winners.

                                                                                        What I find funny is a 4'11 dutch twink that's typing in English trying to earn American dollars being an annoying sig whore. My option would be suicide if I had to do the same on a Dutch porn forum. Fucking loser.
                                                                                        hahahhaa fucking gr eat for your 3rd post,
                                                                                        I do enjoy Franck's threads and shit he talks most of the time but trying to show everyone how he is smarter on an adult webmaster board is just funny.
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                                                                                        • Libertine
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by NE1469
                                                                                          How about Americans only represent 6% of the world population and are 30% of the Nobel prize winners.

                                                                                          What I find funny is a 4'11 dutch twink that's typing in English trying to earn American dollars being an annoying sig whore. My option would be suicide if I had to do the same on a Dutch porn forum. Fucking loser.
                                                                                          What about if you were an idiot who fell for an obvious troll? Surely that'd be enough reason to kill yourself too, right?
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                                                                                          • Taass
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by NE1469
                                                                                            How about Americans only represent 6% of the world population and are 30% of the Nobel prize winners.
                                                                                            Ehmmm..

                                                                                            ..And Europe only represents about 7,5% , yet has about 50% of the Nobel prize winners

                                                                                            ..Or Denmark, only representing about 0,05% of world population has 13 Nobel prize winners.. matching that up in numbers you should have about 1500 winners by now to compare

                                                                                            On top of that, most US prize winners are actually from other countries, most of them from germany and russia
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I think many people say they believe in God to keep from being a social outcast as well as covering their ass JUST IN CASE. Why tempt fate?
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                                                                                              • Libertine
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Taass
                                                                                                Ehmmm..

                                                                                                ..And Europe only represents about 7,5% , yet has about 50% of the Nobel prize winners

                                                                                                ..Or Denmark, only representing about 0,05% of world population has 13 Nobel prize winners.. matching that up in numbers you should have about 1500 winners by now to compare

                                                                                                On top of that, most US prize winners are actually from other countries, most of them from germany and russia
                                                                                                Number of Nobel laureates doesn't say much about average national intelligence, though. Winning a Nobel prize is a result of individual intelligence, but also of education, social context, etc.

                                                                                                An African kid with an IQ of 200 and no chance to go to school isn't likely to ever contribute anything significant to the field of science. The Chinese guy who has to work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, isn't likely to ever write the great 21st century novel. Etc.
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                                                                                                • Taass
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                                                  Number of Nobel laureates doesn't say much about average national intelligence, though. Winning a Nobel prize is a result of individual intelligence, but also of education, social context, etc.
                                                                                                  Can only agree with you on that, My response was only to set NE1469 statement in contest, that Americans where smarter because they had 30% of nobel prize winners.

                                                                                                  Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                                                  An African kid with an IQ of 200 and no chance to go to school isn't likely to ever contribute anything significant to the field of science.
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                                                                                                  • Poindexterity
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    i love it when people spend thousands of dollars or more
                                                                                                    on a study to confirm something most of us already know
                                                                                                    just from walkin around for a few years.
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