"The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child"

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  • GatorB
    The Demon & 12clicks
    • Oct 2001
    • 18208

    #101
    Originally posted by I'm Looking For A...
    hey, at least you're not calling names when someone disagrees with you. thanks for that.

    Examples. I believe people need to be made examples of.

    Hope. Every criminal hopes not to get caught. I have to believe that hope grows greater with greater suggested punishment. Even in the minds of sick, sick people... theres something there, its not all empty. Make the sickos afraid. If you say they are so sick there is no fear... how do you discourage future incidents? Just give up? Say to ourselves "they are sick, fear or not, they will do it."?

    I cant agree with that.

    You can not discourage murder or rape they have been going on forever. To think there is some magic potion that will stop it 100% or even close to 100% is naive. Of course you still punish the offenders. Some guy today in KY just shot up his fellow co-workers and the offed himself. Do you think he gave a rats ass about the death penalty before committing mass murder?

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    • Mr Pheer
      So Fucking Banned
      • Dec 2002
      • 22082

      #102
      I think lethal injection is a joke.

      Death penalty should be slow, painful, and brutal. Then it would truly be a deterrent to violent crimes. Right now its no big deal... just drift off peacefully to sleep. Our country and our society has become far too soft and PC these days.

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      • I'm Looking For A...
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        • Apr 2008
        • 241

        #103
        Originally posted by GatorB
        You can not discourage murder or rape they have been going on forever. To think there is some magic potion that will stop it 100% or even close to 100% is naive. Of course you still punish the offenders. Some guy today in KY just shot up his fellow co-workers and the offed himself. Do you think he gave a rats ass about the death penalty before committing mass murder?
        100% is not realistic so no, i dont believe in a solution which will result in 100% success rate.

        And no, the guy who shot his co-workers and then himself did not care about the death sentence. So... lets judge the rest of the worlds criminals by the same standards that this guy acted on? I dont agree.

        Some give a shit, some dont. Lets get rid of that portion that DOES care about getting the death sentence by killing child rapists. I mean, like asm said... the worlds not black and white.

        With death as a price to pay, you annihilate future rape of children from rapists who care about dying more then raping. Im not saying child rape wont happen any more, but you will get rid of the guys that will rape who DONT fear jail but DO fear death.
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        • I'm Looking For A...
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          • Apr 2008
          • 241

          #104
          Originally posted by I'm Looking For A...
          With death as a price to pay, you annihilate future rape of children from rapists who care about dying more then raping. Im not saying child rape wont happen any more, but you will get rid of the guys that will rape who DONT fear jail but DO fear death.
          and that portion you do intimidate from raping... however big or small it may be, is worth it. Its definitely worth it.
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          • GatorB
            The Demon & 12clicks
            • Oct 2001
            • 18208

            #105
            Originally posted by I'm Looking For A...
            I dont recall insulting you whatsoever. As a matter of fact, i hadnt even quoted you in my first post in this thread when you posted this as a response...


            you seem pretty opinionated about the topic. thats cool, i like people with passion for something. But people that are not in favor of your opinion are not necessarily retarded.

            You are a retard because your facts are totally incorrect therefor illgocial. So perhaps maybe I should have called you ignorant rather than retarded. Is that better.

            Shall we go over this again

            "in prison for life = my tax money feeding and housing a child rapist = Fuck you, no good"

            First you complain about your tax $ being wasted keeping these guys alive when it's a PROVEN FACT that keeping them on death row is VASTLY more expensive. You can't call for LESS tax money to be spent on them then advocate they be housed in the most expensive way. That by definition is retarded. That would be like me going out and buying a Hummer then bitching about how much it costs me in gas ever week.

            in electric chair = death and thats that. i dont wanna pay to keep your rotten child raping ass alive. Die die die"
            As you can read below no one will be electrocuted ever again unless they CHOOSE to be.

            "Electrocution is currently an optional form of execution in the U.S. states of Alabama, Florida, South Carolina and Virginia, though allow the prisoner to choose lethal injection as an alternative method. In the states of Kentucky and Tennessee, the electric chair has been retired except for those whose capital crimes were committed prior to legislated dates in 1998 [Kentucky March 31, 1998, Tennessee December 31, 1998] and who choose electrocution. In both states, inmates who do not choose electrocution or inmates who committed their crimes after the designated date are put to death by lethal injection. The electric chair is an alternate form of execution approved for potential use in Illinois and Oklahoma if other forms of execution are found unconstitutional in the state at the time of execution. In Florida, the condemned may choose death by electrocution, but the default is lethal injection."

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            • GatorB
              The Demon & 12clicks
              • Oct 2001
              • 18208

              #106
              Originally posted by I'm Looking For A...
              With death as a price to pay, you annihilate future rape of children from rapists who care about dying more then raping. Im not saying child rape wont happen any more, but you will get rid of the guys that will rape who DONT fear jail but DO fear death.
              Life without parole keep the rapist from raping kids. Also the odds of the rapist not only dying but dying in very painful manner which you seems to relish is MUCH more likely to happen if he is in fact sentenced to life. I'm 100% sure Jeffrey Dahmer would have much preferred lethal injection as his method of death over "steel rod to the face 100X"

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              • qxm
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2006
                • 5970

                #107
                OK ... this thread is abit too long to read in 2 mins but I gotta say, the right punishment for someone who rapes a child is not the death penalty... I agree ... but as I recall... the correct way to punish this people is to BUTT RAPE THEM WITH A BASEBALL BAT and make them feel like a helpless lil child... .. I think that a few months ago I read a story of a guy who did just that to a guy who raped his son ....

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                • I'm Looking For A...
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 241

                  #108
                  Originally posted by GatorB
                  You are a retard because your facts are totally incorrect therefor illgocial.

                  i might as well post "i fucked your mother" since anything disagreeing with you gets the same response.

                  btw, boneprone fucked her too
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                  • I'm Looking For A...
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                    • Apr 2008
                    • 241

                    #109
                    So we conclude... child rapists dont fear death and proper punishment should be left up to inmates and other criminals.

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                    • sysk
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                      #110
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                      • GatorB
                        The Demon & 12clicks
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 18208

                        #111
                        Originally posted by I'm Looking For A...
                        So we conclude... child rapists dont fear death and proper punishment should be left up to inmates and other criminals.

                        clap clap
                        well most states use lethal injection. it's teh same way you put a beloved pet to sleep if he had cancer. Now what about that is going to strike fear into anyone? Seriously anyone here that says they'd choose life in prison over the seath penalty is stupid. Pure and simple. I'd fear getting stabbed more than I'd fear lethal injection.

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                        • Pics Traffic
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                          • Jun 2004
                          • 3055

                          #112
                          They should have those guys wear some kind of a tag saying what they did, so everyone in jail can take turns at raping them with a broom.
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                          • GatorB
                            The Demon & 12clicks
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 18208

                            #113
                            Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                            I think lethal injection is a joke.

                            Death penalty should be slow, painful, and brutal. Then it would truly be a deterrent to violent crimes. Right now its no big deal... just drift off peacefully to sleep. Our country and our society has become far too soft and PC these days.

                            Bullshit. they public hung people all teh time in the old west they also had more crime. Hmmmmm.

                            In the middle east and africa they fucking kill people in all sorts of brutal ways for "crimes" doesn't stop people from continuing to commit those crimes. You need to tweek that theory.

                            By the way who are you going to hire to perform these slow brutal acts? I'd have to question the mental stabily of someone that would volunteer for that job and enjoy it and peform it without hesitation. Would YOU do it? Of course not. You'd puss out.

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                            • tony299
                              lurker
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 57021

                              #114
                              I was listening to the news and one of the reasons they did give is a death penalty would cause. Many to never come forward considering a large number are family.
                              Last edited by tony286; 06-25-2008, 05:45 PM.

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                              • GetSCORECash
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                                • Mar 2008
                                • 5527

                                #115
                                Originally posted by TheSenator
                                Death is the easy way out.

                                Life in jail, beatings, stabbings...mental break downs....for the rest of his life.
                                I agrea with what you are getting at, but can you quarantee that they will get a beatings, stabbings, or be raped by big fat guy over and over while they are in prison?

                                These child molesters are placed outside of the general population so that nothing happens to them. Allowing them to live and then letting them out for good behavior, so that they can go back to rapeing another kid... just isn't right.
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                                • SomeCreep
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                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 26118

                                  #116
                                  I think life in prison with no possibility of parole is worse than the death penalty. Especially if the man convicted is a child molestor. He will have to live his entire life in fear of being killed by other inmates.
                                  Last edited by SomeCreep; 06-25-2008, 06:11 PM.

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                                  • HAPPYPEEKERS
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                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 7566

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                    I think life in prison with no possibility of parole is worse than the death penalty. Especially if the man convicted is a child molestor. He will have to live his entire life in fear of being killed by other inmates.
                                    I DO think they deserve life in prison with constant harrasment forever..

                                    BUT.. I dont want to pay for it if there is 100% proof the person is a child rapist
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                                    • SilentKnight
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                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 24812

                                      #118
                                      I agree with the judge - the death penalty is definitely not a proportional punishment for child rape.

                                      Instead, put the bastard in with the prison general population and let nature take its course.

                                      An eye-for-an-eye justice would then be served, sparing the taxpayers further expense.

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                                      • XoXo Cash
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                                        • Jun 2008
                                        • 257

                                        #119
                                        i have always believed in "an eye for an eye"...but its simply unrealistic & will never happen.
                                        the closest thing to it is the torture that continuously happens in the prisons, particularly to child molesters. this is common knowledge, and people in the general public are aware of what this entails...yet these consequences obviously aren't enough to keep these ppl from doing the sick things that they do. so where does it go from here if there is no fear??
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                                        • SmokeyTheBear
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                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 28609

                                          #120
                                          I think many people are under some false impression that child rapists get tortured everyday from the other inmates. Truth is much of the time they are take to their own protected area where only other child rapists and snitches are, infact free from many of the hardships of prison life. Lots of the beatings and such happen pre-trial and i'm sure from time to time some of them have a shitty time , but certainly not "eye for an eye" type justice many people believe.
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                                          • ronaldo
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                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 5475

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                            I think many people are under some false impression that child rapists get tortured everyday from the other inmates. Truth is much of the time they are take to their own protected area where only other child rapists and snitches are, infact free from many of the hardships of prison life. Lots of the beatings and such happen pre-trial and i'm sure from time to time some of them have a shitty time , but certainly not "eye for an eye" type justice many people believe.
                                            This is true, but that also means they live the rest of their time in prison in fear. I imagine that always having to look over their shoulder isn't exactly a pleasant way to live either.

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                                            • robfantasy
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                                              • Jun 2002
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                                              #122
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                                              • DWB
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                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 31779

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                                The guy that did it is a big 6'4", 250 pound black guy. He raped a little 8 year old black girl.
                                                Over the years, I have met plenty of black girls who said they were fucking older men by the age of 8. Then when you bump it up to about 12 or 13, just about all of them have. At least the ones I was shooting from the Hood in Ohio.

                                                Those girls start YOUNG!!! Hell, most of them have big titties and a phat ass by 12 years. Built to breed I guess.

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                                                • bloggingseo
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                                                  • May 2007
                                                  • 1793

                                                  #124
                                                  I think life in prison as a child molester is a much better form of punishment than death. The other inmates HATE child molesters and a lot of them end up gang raped or dead Trust me I know my friends used to work at a very huge state prison and it definitely happens and their lives are a living hell. Death is too easy on the sick fucks

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                                                  • CyberHustler
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                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                    • 28799

                                                    #125
                                                    Child molesters go to involuntary protective custody in prison...
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                                                    • GatorB
                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 18208

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by robfantasy
                                                      Democrats at their finest
                                                      If you had a fucking brain it was the SUPREME COURT that made this decision not Congress. And if you weren't a moron you'd know that 7 of the 9 justices including 3 of the 5 that ruled in the majority were appointed by REPUBLICAN presidents. So what this has to do with "liberals" and "democrats" is beyond me. We've only had 2 Democratic presidents since 1969, Carter and Clinton, and Carter never got to appoint anyone to the SCOTUS and Clinton appointed 2. Democrats have only controlled the White House for 12 of the last 39 years yet seem to get blamed for everything that's fucked up. Huh?

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                                                      • G.A.F
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                                                        • Feb 2008
                                                        • 370

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by SCORE-Cash
                                                        I agrea with what you are getting at, but can you quarantee that they will get a beatings, stabbings, or be raped by big fat guy over and over while they are in prison?

                                                        These child molesters are placed outside of the general population so that nothing happens to them. Allowing them to live and then letting them out for good behavior, so that they can go back to rapeing another kid... just isn't right.
                                                        That's what I think it happens. Child molesters should be put together with the rest of the prisioners and then see how long they last.
                                                        All the citizens are paying for their food and clothes and wellfare while they are in prision. That's not fair. I don't want to feed a rapist for the rest of his life.
                                                        I'd just locked him in a cell full of hungry rats. He should die painfully for what he did. And save a lot of money from contributors.
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