whoops! My morning glucose reading

i'll check it out, i'm with you already though, the multiple small meals protocol is a huge marketing ploy. it also supports overeating, for a guy my age and size, i only need ~1300 cals a day basic. with an activity, i only need an addition 200-300 cals per hour of vigorous activity, so even on busy days, max cals for me is 1800 tops.

that's ~the minimum for recommended for me on standardized scales. i'm pretty much convinved we all need much much fewer calories than we realize or are told.

300 is up there, do you know where your ketone spill level is?

does pizza hit you harder than other foods? it does me. an equivalent meal of say, bread, meat, salad and potato doesn't fry my readings anywhere near what pizza does. pizza's good though...........

one of the great things about IF for me anyway is how easy it is. just skip breakfast! if you can get a 14 hour fast in 3-4x a week, that is a good thing! so eat dinner a bit earlier, skip breakfast and eat a bit later for lunch. food groups in moderation and good ratio of course.


thnks Phil, back to normal here!

I bet your blood tastes sweet.

I don't ketone test, my glucose averages are low enough that I guess it's just not indicated. My doctors have never brought it up and according to what I've read it's useful if your glucose is higher than 250 more than 2 consecutive readings, a 6.0 A1c puts me at a 135 +/- average.

250s rarely happen to me anymore and depends entirely on what I eat.

Pizza hits me the hardest of all foods, it's mostly bread. Which is why I can only indulge once a year at most, sometimes life just plain sucks

Carbs in general jack me up so I keep them to a minimum, I try to avoid (mostly) anything made with refined flour or starchy foods, even whole-wheat bread will cause a significant increase.
A couple nights ago I had a big bowl home made chicken soup with no noodles or bread and 2 hours later I was at 92, with noodles or some bread I would have been 160+

Where you eat bread, meat, salad and potato I eat salad, meat and vegetable. A diabetic nutritionist once told me that while sugar makes a huge spike in the blood it is gone pretty quickly, but carbs will build glucose slower and to a somewhat lower level but they keep it up for a far, far longer period of time, and that's when the damage happens.

But I still need some work on that portion control

yeah, didn't mean to imply i eat bread on any routine basis, was just comparing a similar meal, the bread was the equivalent to the pizza crust, but even with the similarity, pizza would hit me harder than the comprable meal with bread.

i was just lolling, my ~12 hour fasting reading was double your 2 hours after eating an entire pizza reading! that's nutty, hah!

I don't think there's any similarity at all.

Pizza is something like 75% bread, a "comparable meal" would have to have the bread portion making up 75% of the meal instead of the max 25% that it would normally.


It's like instead of making a sandwich with 4 oz meat and 2 slices of bread you make 4 sandwiches each with 1 oz of meat and 2 slices of bread.

That's a helluva lot of bread for one sitting. That's why pizza drives glucose to insane levels.

At least that's my theory


And I hope you get under control soon, levels like that are downright scary






Why the fuck is this thread making me so hungry?

woah, so many sweet people here..

Exactly, saying watch what you eat when you have an organ in your body that doesn't work is like telling someone with no legs to just walk better. Pretty dumb.

the funny part was he just dropped by the thread to cure diabetes- just eat healthy and you won't have high blood sugar!