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  • MK Ultra
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2007
    • 879

    #1

    So now Obama wants to make voting mandatory?

    I swear this guy never met a mandate he didn't like

    Obama: Maybe it's time for mandatory voting - CNN.com

    (CNN)The president whose major policy achievement is mandatory health insurance thinks maybe voting should be mandatory, too.

    Asked how to offset the influence of big money in politics, President Barack Obama suggested it's time to make voting a requirement.

    "Other countries have mandatory voting," Obama said Wednesday in Cleveland, where he spoke about the importance of middle class economics, and was asked about the issue during a town hall.
    There will be the predictable gfyers who think anything the government does is just fine but I have a small problem with the exercise of civil rights being made compulsory, kind of takes the whole "freedom" aspect out of it when the government is forcing you to comply.
  • Barry-xlovecam
    It's 42
    • Jun 2010
    • 18083

    #2
    Bad idea.

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    • Robbie
      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
      • Aug 2002
      • 20960

      #3
      Baby steps...soon EVERYTHING will be "mandatory".

      The govt. wants more power. Every time they gain power, we lose a small piece of freedom.

      That's the way it works.

      And yeah, like most things there is a "sweet spot" that is beneficial to society and allows for just enough govt. and just enough personal freedom.

      I think we have went way beyond that sweet spot already.
      -Robbie
      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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      • TheSquealer
        Mayor of Thneedville
        • Oct 2004
        • 26177

        #4
        He's a constitutional lawyer. Why should he understand things like government, how the government works, rights and freedoms guaranteed by the constitution, separation of powers, etc etc etc.
        .
        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

        Rochard

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        • MakeMeGrrrrowl
          Grrrrrrrrr
          • Oct 2002
          • 4986

          #5
          "The people who tend not to vote are young, they're lower income, they're skewed more heavily towards immigrant groups and minority groups," Obama said. "There's a reason why some folks try to keep them away from the polls."

          OF COURSE some "folks" don't want them to vote. I am one of those folks.

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          • 2MuchMark
            Mark of 2Much.net
            • Aug 2004
            • 50989

            #6
            Originally posted by Robbie
            Baby steps...soon EVERYTHING will be "mandatory".

            The govt. wants more power. Every time they gain power, we lose a small piece of freedom.
            Blah blah blah...

            Robbie my friend, read the second line of that article.

            Asked how to offset the influence of big money in politics, President Barack Obama suggested it's time to make voting a requirement.
            Then just a few lines down, he says

            "It would be transformative if everybody voted -- that would counteract money more than anything," he said, adding it was the first time he had shared the idea publicly.

            So give it a rest already. Your "freedom" is already been sold to liars with agendas like the Koch Brothers. Don't forget that many of the ads and other measures were put in place to stop people from voting in the first place.

            Making it mandatory to vote may not be the worlds best idea, but it is at least one idea to counteract the the hundreds of millions spent on voting now.

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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089

              #7
              Too early for an Oswald reference?

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              • L-Pink
                working on my tan
                • Mar 2005
                • 39151

                #8
                "The people who tend not to vote are young, they're lower income, they're skewed more heavily towards immigrant groups and minority groups," Obama said. "There's a reason why some folks try to keep them away from the polls."


                ... Yea, for the same reason "some folks" want to make it mandatory they vote.

                It's called self interest.

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                • Bladewire
                  StraightBro
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 56228

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MK Ultra
                  ... I have a small problem with the exercise of civil rights being made compulsory, kind of takes the whole "freedom" aspect out of it when the government is forcing you to comply.
                  Why didn't Bush make paying taxes voluntary?

                  If you can't walk naked in the street without being ticketed or arrested then you're not free


                  Skype: CallTomNow

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                  • PR_Glen
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 9058

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bladewire
                    Why didn't Bush make paying taxes voluntary?

                    If you can't walk naked in the street without being ticketed or arrested then you're not free
                    if that's considered free they yeah.. i don't want that either..
                    webmaster at pimproll dot com

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                    • scuba steve
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1888

                      #11
                      i'd be more inclined to vote for tax credit

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                      • Bladewire
                        StraightBro
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 56228

                        #12
                        Originally posted by PR_Glen
                        if that's considered free they yeah.. i don't want that either..


                        Skype: CallTomNow

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                        • kane
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 20684

                          #13
                          Personally I think we should do as much as possible to make voting as easy and convenient for everyone as we can and we should encourage everyone to vote. However, if a person can't be bothered to take the time to vote once every two years or just doesn't care enough to be bothered, I don't want them making decisions that could affect me.

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                          • dyna mo
                            just a fucking jerk
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 68184

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MarkPrince
                            Blah blah blah...

                            Robbie my friend, read the second line of that article.



                            Then just a few lines down, he says




                            So give it a rest already. Your "freedom" is already been sold to liars with agendas like the Koch Brothers. Don't forget that many of the ads and other measures were put in place to stop people from voting in the first place.

                            Making it mandatory to vote may not be the worlds best idea, but it is at least one idea to counteract the the hundreds of millions spent on voting now.
                            so side step the real issue. instead of actually dealing with big money politics, you know like maybe use one of those fancy executive orders he seems to have so many of and EO some fucking rules on politicians and pacs. instead that nitwit make it another problem for the average guy.


                            if we were forced to vote, the big money problem in politics will go away?


                            that's fucking 3rd grade logic.




                            thanks Obama!

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                            • SmutHammer
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4301

                              #15
                              More like people should have to pass a test showing they have some type of knowledge about what/who they are voting on/for.

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                              • L-Pink
                                working on my tan
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 39151

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SmutHammer
                                More like people should have to pass a test showing they have some type of knowledge about what/who they are voting on/for.
                                I've always thought you should sync voting with filing your income taxes. Don't file you don't get the option to vote.


                                .

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                                • Sly
                                  Let's do some business!
                                  • Sep 2004
                                  • 31376

                                  #17
                                  Did you guys see that earlier this week the White House made it official that the Office of Administration does not need to respond to Freedom of Information Act requests? They were not doing it anyway, but now it's been made official. And before anyone cries, Bush did it as well. That's right, Obama following in Bush footsteps!

                                  A Sunshine Week surprise: White House exempts executive office from records requests - The Washington Post

                                  Transparency. Hope. Change. Good things.
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                                  • L-Pink
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                                    • Mar 2005
                                    • 39151

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                    Did you guys see that earlier this week the White House made it official that the Office of Administration does not need to respond to Freedom of Information Act requests? They were not doing it anyway, but now it's been made official. And before anyone cries, Bush did it as well. That's right, Obama following in Bush footsteps!

                                    A Sunshine Week surprise: White House exempts executive office from records requests - The Washington Post

                                    Transparency. Hope. Change. Good things.
                                    The report I read said a record amount of requests were denied.

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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sly
                                      Did you guys see that earlier this week the White House made it official that the Office of Administration does not need to respond to Freedom of Information Act requests? They were not doing it anyway, but now it's been made official. And before anyone cries, Bush did it as well. That's right, Obama following in Bush footsteps!

                                      A Sunshine Week surprise: White House exempts executive office from records requests - The Washington Post

                                      Transparency. Hope. Change. Good things.


                                      Obama even added a fuck you, i'll do what i want by making it official during sunshine week.

                                      the shit that guy shuffles.


                                      it's embarrassing.

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                                      • kane
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Aug 2001
                                        • 20684

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                                        I've always thought you should sync voting with filing your income taxes. Don't file you don't get the option to vote.


                                        .
                                        The only problem with that is that there are actually a good block of people that don't file income taxes for a good reason. For example, if you are in college and don't have a job you have no income and therefore don't file. Many retired people also don't file income taxes the same can be said for people on disability (I know there are scammers on disability that we would be better off without, but there are also people who have legit disabilities.)

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                                        • L-Pink
                                          working on my tan
                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 39151

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by kane
                                          The only problem with that is that there are actually a good block of people that don't file income taxes for a good reason. For example, if you are in college and don't have a job you have no income and therefore don't file. Many retired people also don't file income taxes the same can be said for people on disability (I know there are scammers on disability that we would be better off without, but there are also people who have legit disabilities.)

                                          It's very easy to file a zero income tax return. In fact they could fill in the zeros while waiting in line to vote. The point is they would be participating in what really runs the country, money and how it's collected and spent.

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                                          • dyna mo
                                            just a fucking jerk
                                            • Dec 2008
                                            • 68184

                                            #22
                                            that fucking nitwit

                                            ?Other countries have mandatory voting,? Mr. Obama said at a town hall-style event

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                                            • Sly
                                              Let's do some business!
                                              • Sep 2004
                                              • 31376

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                              that fucking nitwit

                                              “Other countries have mandatory voting,” Mr. Obama said at a town hall-style event

                                              I don't like the "other countries do XYZ" bull shit. We aren't other countries. We are our country. If it makes sense to do it, okay, consider it. Don't pawn off the "other countries do it" excuse in order to sway some of the resident America haters.

                                              I'm glad he has us lumped in with the Democratic Republic of Congo. :-/
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                                              • dyna mo
                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                • Dec 2008
                                                • 68184

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sly
                                                I don't like the "other countries do XYZ" bull shit. We aren't other countries. We are our country. If it makes sense to do it, okay, consider it. Don't pawn off the "other countries do it" excuse in order to sway some of the resident America haters.

                                                I'm glad he has us lumped in with the Democratic Republic of Congo. :-/
                                                it's insane! i mean argentina? i just threw up a little. it's beyond embarrassing to have the leader of the free fucking world want mandatory voting, because you know, argentina has it and it will solve the big money problem with USA politics.

                                                fucking wow.

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                                                • Sly
                                                  Let's do some business!
                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                  • 31376

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                  it's insane! i mean argentina? i just threw up a little. it's beyond embarrassing to have the leader of the free fucking world want mandatory voting, because you know, argentina has it and it will solve the big money problem with USA politics.

                                                  fucking wow.
                                                  And Lebanon. Men only.

                                                  Moving forward!
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                                                  • kane
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                    • 20684

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                    It's very easy to file a zero income tax return. In fact they could fill in the zeros while waiting in line to vote. The point is they would be participating in what really runs the country, money and how it's collected and spent.
                                                    That is just a waste of everyone's time and money. If the law says you don't have to file a tax return now we want to make it so you do have to file a tax return in order to vote? So we just create more red tape.

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                                                    • Rochard
                                                      Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 75733

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by kane
                                                      Personally I think we should do as much as possible to make voting as easy and convenient for everyone as we can and we should encourage everyone to vote. However, if a person can't be bothered to take the time to vote once every two years or just doesn't care enough to be bothered, I don't want them making decisions that could affect me.
                                                      How much easier can it get? I get a form sent directly to my house and I vote before the election.
                                                      Herschel Savage
                                                      Brooklyn, NY

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                                                      • Robbie
                                                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 20960

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                        So give it a rest already. Your "freedom" is already been sold to liars with agendas like the Koch Brothers. Don't forget that many of the ads and other measures were put in place to stop people from voting in the first place.

                                                        Making it mandatory to vote may not be the worlds best idea, but it is at least one idea to counteract the the hundreds of millions spent on voting now.
                                                        WTF?

                                                        My freedom isn't obstructed in any way, shape, or form by the Koch' spending money on the right OR George Soros spending money on the left.

                                                        And there have been no measures put in place over the last few years to stop people from voting. You need to learn your history. That was done by DEMOCRAT southern governors back in the day.

                                                        And NO Mark...FORCING people to do something is NEVER a good idea.

                                                        I'm sorry man...but forget about your partisanship for just one second...FREEDOM is freedom to do as you choose. NOT having "big brother" command you to do it.

                                                        Yes, I agree that EVERYBODY voting would be a great thing.
                                                        I completely disagree that FORCING even one person to vote is a good thing. Matter of fact it's a TERRIBLE thing.

                                                        I can't wrap my head around faux-liberalism.
                                                        True "liberals" are supposed to be anti-establishment, anti-govt., etc.

                                                        This new breed of "liberals" seem to just be sheep who want the govt. to run their lives in every way.
                                                        -Robbie
                                                        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                        • dyna mo
                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                          • 68184

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sly
                                                          And Lebanon. Men only.

                                                          Moving forward!
                                                          maybe the teleprompter guy played a joke on him? maybe? hopefully? i mean really. is it 5 o'clock yet? i need a drink.

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                                                          • Sly
                                                            Let's do some business!
                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                            • 31376

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                            maybe the teleprompter guy played a joke on him? maybe? hopefully? i mean really. is it 5 o'clock yet? i need a drink.
                                                            It was an idea that he has never spoken about before.

                                                            Now you have to be wondering what else he is saying in those meetings that his staff has time to shut him down on.
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                                                            • L-Pink
                                                              working on my tan
                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                              • 39151

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by kane
                                                              That is just a waste of everyone's time and money. If the law says you don't have to file a tax return now we want to make it so you do have to file a tax return in order to vote? So we just create more red tape.
                                                              And yet a large percent of voters there are receiving tax money?

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                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                • 68184

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                WTF?

                                                                I can't wrap my head around faux-liberalism.
                                                                True "liberals" are supposed to be anti-establishment, anti-govt., etc.

                                                                This new breed of "liberals" seem to just be sheep who want the govt. to run their lives in every way.



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                                                                • Dead
                                                                  They left the door open
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 4755

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Voting is nothing more then a way to make people think they had a say???? This matters none. Please pay no attention to the men behind the screen pulling the levers.

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                                                                  • mikesouth
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 6334

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Horrible idea for several reasons first we have too many uneducated voters casting votes as it is, second its a bad idea to let people suckling the public teat vote themselves a raise...
                                                                    Mike South

                                                                    It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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                                                                    • MK Ultra
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2007
                                                                      • 879

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                      Why didn't Bush make paying taxes voluntary?
                                                                      Hell if Bush had been able to do that and somehow make it work then maybe I would have voted for him... 3 times!

                                                                      Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                      If you can't walk naked in the street without being ticketed or arrested then you're not free
                                                                      In a truly free society the government wouldn't be able to stop you walking naked on the street, as long as no harm comes to anyone else then how could it be illegal?
                                                                      Are you proposing that since we don't have "True Freedom" in this country then losing more of what we have left doesn't matter?



                                                                      I look at it like this: Take "Freedom Of Religion" for example, by applying the same rule as proposed you would have freedom to choose any religion you liked, but would be required to be a member of at least one.
                                                                      Freedom From Religion would no longer be allowed.





                                                                      And another thing, if voting became mandatory wouldn't a voter ID of some kind be required?

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                                                                      • crockett
                                                                        in a van by the river
                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                        • 76818

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Obama is certainly a very good troll. He knows for sure that there is no chance in hell of this ever happening, yet he can say something like this and next thing you know all the right wing talking heads are outraged all over the airways and internet for the next 3 weeks looking like lunitics.
                                                                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                        • Joshua G
                                                                          dumb libs love censorship
                                                                          • Jul 2008
                                                                          • 8198

                                                                          #37
                                                                          funny that repubs want to prevent the poor from voting, while obama wants to force them to vote. Both sides take these positions to benefit themselves politically, & both sides are wrong. The right to vote should not be abridged, & should not be forced either. people who do not make the effort to speak should not be heard.

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                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                            • 68184

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by crockett
                                                                            Obama is certainly a very good troll. He knows for sure that there is no chance in hell of this ever happening, yet he can say something like this and next thing you know all the right wing talking heads are outraged all over the airways and internet for the next 3 weeks looking like lunitics.

                                                                            Hah! Well played.


                                                                            BO the PUSATROLL.

                                                                            Explains a lot rly.

                                                                            Seems like its true.

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                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                              • 68184

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Vendz is still needing to breathe in and out of a paper bag over this.

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                                                                              • Sly
                                                                                Let's do some business!
                                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                                • 31376

                                                                                #40
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                                                                                • MFCT
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                                                                                  • Jan 2015
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  If he can make it mandatory to vote, can he make it mandatory to vote democrat?

                                                                                  If people object to being forced to vote democrat, can he make it mandatory that people not object to voting democrat? Where does one draw the line? Can he make it mandatory that people refrain from drawing a line?

                                                                                  Seems like a slippery slope.
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                                                                                  • crockett
                                                                                    in a van by the river
                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 76818

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                      • 76818

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                      Hah! Well played.


                                                                                      BO the PUSATROLL.

                                                                                      Explains a lot rly.

                                                                                      Seems like its true.
                                                                                      You know it's true..

                                                                                      Hell BO even called Benjamin Netanyahu today to congratulate him on the win. Now you know "THAT" was a troll.
                                                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                      • sicone
                                                                                        Retired
                                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                                        • 18453

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Anyone else have the urge to order some EXTRA BIG ASS FRIES and watch some Idiocracy?

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                                                                                        • kane
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                          • 20684

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                          How much easier can it get? I get a form sent directly to my house and I vote before the election.
                                                                                          Same here. My state votes by mail. The ballot is sent to me a few weeks before the election and I can either mail it back or drop it in a ballot drop.

                                                                                          We have a high voter turnout because of this and it makes it easy.

                                                                                          Many states are not that way.

                                                                                          Let me take you back to 2004 in Ohio. The election was likely going to come down to who won Ohio (this was Bush vs Kerry). In that state if you lived in one of the major cites there was suddenly a shortage of voting machines. People were waiting in line 3-6 hours to vote. This is actually fairly common in a lot of places. It is why they started doing early voting days in many places so they could avoid the long lines and waits on election day.

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                                                                                          • kane
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                            • 20684

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                            And yet a large percent of voters there are receiving tax money?
                                                                                            And what does that have to do with voting?

                                                                                            My feeling is that if you are going to force someone to do something there should be a net benefit for society. I don't see any benefit to forcing people without a job or who are on social security/disability to fill out a tax form for no other reason than to allow them to vote.

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                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 76818

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                              I've always thought you should sync voting with filing your income taxes. Don't file you don't get the option to vote.


                                                                                              .
                                                                                              I bet all those retired people over 65-67 (what ever it is today) whom don't have to file a tax return, would enjoy that..
                                                                                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                              • 420
                                                                                                cuck
                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 11571

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by dyna mo



                                                                                                The first one is great. That's how we become more civilized.
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                                                                                                • Dead
                                                                                                  They left the door open
                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                  • 4755

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by 420
                                                                                                  The first one is great. That's how we become more civilized.
                                                                                                  No people
                                                                                                  ?
                                                                                                  LOL

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                                                                                                  • dyna mo
                                                                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                                                    • 68184

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by 420
                                                                                                    The first one is great. That's how we become more civilized.
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