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  • Marcus4Two
    Registered User
    • Jan 2012
    • 7

    #1

    Business Webcam networks/syndication - Livecamnetwork - The chicken and the egg

    Livecamnetwork (2much.net) seems like a great idea for new webcam sites, as it (theoretically) both gives you hosts you can have on your new start up webcam site and also traffic/customers for your cam girls.

    Does any one have any alternatives to Livecamnetwork.com for new start up cam sites to join/network with or some how syndicate your models/online webhosts ? I have searched but I can't find any others.

    I did the free sign up for customers and I have have been checking on Livecamnetwork.com but most times I look on there there hasn't been a single live host on it. Possibly I am missing some thing, but I don't think so.

    Does any one have any actual experience of Livecamnetwork specifically about the number of hosts and paying customers they received from it ?
  • katja_AWNews
    Deep Into Cams
    • Nov 2001
    • 324

    #2
    Livecamnetwork is one of those people who relay on GFY support and sig whores. Its the most idiot company here online, with a leader who is jerking off on his own posts here on gfy. Really useless and no profitable

    But... you should really give them all your money cause the owner is bragging on GFY every day how good he is, for years now. not that it really made a difference

    He is the cheapest employee in that company he claims it represents a business

    In general, this dude who runs livecamnetwork is a little cut the fat of the meat butcher.

    He fired half of his team many years ago cause his product went to shit
    Now he is posting here daily new stuff to get his girls going and to take clients from here



    Seriously, when you here the name Livecamnetwork you`ll ask yourself why is he not a rich guy yet

    this is cause fuckups like him hang around in forums like this

    Go with a serious player and forget those who really need your money to get food on the table
    Your Live Cam Butterfly

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    • xNetworx
      So Fucking What
      • Jan 2004
      • 14445

      #3
      Originally posted by Katja wescort
      Livecamnetwork is one of those people who relay on GFY support and sig whores. Its the most idiot company here online, with a leader who is jerking off on his own posts here on gfy. Really useless and no profitable

      But... you should really give them all your money cause the owner is bragging on GFY every day how good he is, for years now. not that it really made a difference

      He is the cheapest employee in that company he claims it represents a business

      In general, this dude who runs livecamnetwork is a little cut the fat of the meat butcher.

      He fired half of his team many years ago cause his product went to shit
      Now he is posting here daily new stuff to get his girls going and to take clients from here



      Seriously, when you here the name Livecamnetwork you`ll ask yourself why is he not a rich guy yet

      this is cause fuckups like him hang around in forums like this

      Go with a serious player and forget those who really need your money to get food on the table

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      • 2MuchMark
        Mark of 2Much.net
        • Aug 2004
        • 50991

        #4
        Originally posted by Marcus4Two
        Livecamnetwork (2much.net) seems like a great idea for new webcam sites, as it (theoretically) both gives you hosts you can have on your new start up webcam site and also traffic/customers for your cam girls.

        Does any one have any alternatives to Livecamnetwork.com for new start up cam sites to join/network with or some how syndicate your models/online webhosts ? I have searched but I can't find any others.

        I did the free sign up for customers and I have have been checking on Livecamnetwork.com but most times I look on there there hasn't been a single live host on it. Possibly I am missing some thing, but I don't think so.

        Does any one have any actual experience of Livecamnetwork specifically about the number of hosts and paying customers they received from it ?

        Hi Marucs,

        Each website can broadcast their own models of course, but at the same time, they can choose to stream their chat models to the network, for other sites to pickup and sell as their own. We call this "mbase" or "mbase syndication".

        One problem we faced is that sometimes, not all sites want to wholesale their chat models to other sites all the time, and sometimes they try to wholesale the chat models at too high of a price.

        A couple of things are are doing to improve the situation is to (a) invite our customers to lower their pay rates in exchange for new services and features that will be coming up in about 3 weeks from now, and (b) partnering with sites outside of our network to deliver a lot more live chat models to the system. We're not ready to share the details yet but we will be releasing some PR about what we are doing exactly in about a week.



        Originally posted by Katja wescort
        Livecamnetwork is one of those people who relay on GFY support and sig whores.
        We do not purchase sigs from anyone, nor is anyone on GFY linking to us in their signature. We do not rely on GFY for support. Despite the inflammatory political discussions, GFY remains a fun place to hang out on and a very good place for business for us.

        Originally posted by Katja wescort
        Its the most idiot company here online, with a leader who is jerking off on his own posts here on gfy. Really useless and no profitable
        We have been in business for over 15 years, attend the trade shows, are regular sponsors of the Quebec Expo for the past 10 years, host customer gatherings every summer, and participate in conversations in the adult industry community. What is it that you do again?

        Originally posted by Katja wescort
        But... you should really give them all your money cause the owner is bragging on GFY every day how good he is, for years now. not that it really made a difference
        Please show me one post where I have bragged.

        Originally posted by Katja wescort
        He is the cheapest employee in that company he claims it represents a business
        No, I am the owner of my small company.

        Originally posted by Katja wescort
        In general, this dude who runs livecamnetwork is a little cut the fat of the meat butcher.
        I don't run LiveCamNetwork. I run 2Much.net.

        Originally posted by Katja wescort
        He fired half of his team many years ago cause his product went to shit
        When I started 2Much.net back in 1999, I posted a classified ad for a programmer. His name is Ye. He is still with 2Much today. I also have 2 other programmers, one of which has been working for me since 2005 (David), and another since 2012-2013 and then 2015+ (Graham). Then there is Tracy (my GF) who works for us part time in Accounting, plus Sue, who also works part time in accounting for us too. Then of course there is Brooke who provides web and tech support for our customers, meets with them face to face at trade shows, and has been doing a spectacular job for us since 2011. They all work very hard and excel at what they do to provide the best possible service and support for our clients.


        Originally posted by Katja wescort
        Now he is posting here daily new stuff to get his girls going and to take clients from here
        GFY is a place for new clients sometimes, yes, but it is also a good place for us to find new business people to work with. For example because of GFY, we do business with Zuzanna designs (websites & graphics), CCBill, Segpay, Epoch, Netbilling for billing of course, and now merchant account support via ActuallyHelping (Actual Mike). All of these businesses and all of this business helps us to round out our own services to our customers.


        Originally posted by Katja wescort
        Seriously, when you here the name Livecamnetwork you`ll ask yourself why is he not a rich guy yet
        I've purchased a brand new home and construction of it was just completed days ago, and am looking forward to moving in this week with my GF of 27 years. It's a modest home in a nice neighbourhood. My business has slowly paid for this house (and my little Chevy Volt, ahem!) plus allowed me to save for the future. I don't know you friend, but I hope your business is doing the same for you.


        Originally posted by Katja wescort
        this is cause fuckups like him hang around in forums like this
        You mean like you?

        In all seriousness, GFY is a really fun place to hang out on. When I finish working or need a break, I turn to GFY. As anyone will tell you I'm really passionate about science and US politics and you can bet it gets me and others into really heated discussions. No one though takes it all seriously. I've met people people in person who I've exchanged really heated comments, and ended up doing business with them, or sharing war stories over beers. If you don't get that about GFY by now, you may never get it.

        Cheers.

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        • Erik_B
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2012
          • 231

          #5
          @Katja I don?t know your past experience or how your hate was generated, I am sure you have your reasons...But I know 2much very well and I don?t see your allegations correlating from my experience.

          On a personal level, I highly respect their team and owner.

          On a business Level, we recently launched a new paysite: BrookelynneBriar.com and we are using 2much's cam solution as her cam solution. Allowing Brookelynne to make great Upsales within our entire member?s area and offering her members more juice for their signups! The integration couldn't have been easier and our experience have only been but positive.

          @Marcus imo it really depends on what you are looking for as a solution and what your needs are. In our case scenario: I think 2much LiveCamNetwork is a great addition to Brookelynne's site and truly benefits both parties. I would suggest 2much?s solution to someone looking to run their own Livecam shows or to someone looking to run something more than just a whitelable solution. If you are looking for a simple whitelable than I would suggest Flirt4Free, Streamate or AWE, if you are looking for a good redirect/PPS scheme than MyFreeCams does very well among others?

          @Mark, oh that sounds interesting: looking forward in hearing more about your new partnerships and your new product, let's see how it can work for us ;)
          Erik -at- YourPaysitePartner.com
          Skype: erik.ypp

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          • vending_machine
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2002
            • 1070

            #6
            Erik B, you know Streamate has solutions for your performers to put a cam offering into her MA?

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            • Erik_B
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2012
              • 231

              #7
              Originally posted by vending_machine
              Erik B, you know Streamate has solutions for your performers to put a cam offering into her MA?
              Yes they do and we also work with Streamate in that sense, nothing but positive feedback as well
              Erik -at- YourPaysitePartner.com
              Skype: erik.ypp

              Do business with us:
              Your Paysite Partner
              Kenny's Pennies
              Sticky Dollars
              Radical Cash
              and more...
              Stunner Media
              Indie Bucks
              Stand Ahead
              and more...

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              • adultmobile
                No, I am not banned
                • Nov 2003
                • 5345

                #8
                Originally posted by Erik_B
                @Katja I don?t know your past experience or how your hate was generated, I am sure you have your reasons...
                Katja wrote hate to xlovecam too:
                http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...am-awards.html

                TubeCamGirl.com

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                • FlowerPower
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 1

                  #9
                  Sorry if this is an older thread but I wanted to chime in and also say that I do NOT recommend livecamnetwork. Although the software itself is competitive (the price is a different story), the traffic (both customers and models) is not what it needs to be.

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                  • bthizzle
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 10

                    #10
                    Is livecamnetwork Sass?

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                    • 2MuchMark
                      Mark of 2Much.net
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 50991

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FlowerPower
                      Sorry if this is an older thread but I wanted to chime in and also say that I do NOT recommend livecamnetwork. Although the software itself is competitive (the price is a different story), the traffic (both customers and models) is not what it needs to be.
                      Hi FlowerPower,

                      We do not offer traffic.

                      Whether you buy a LiveCamNetwork or run the free version, its up to you to get your own traffic. We offer traffic help & support, but not direct traffic. For example, we will help you to understand your stats, or to connect Google Analytics, and we will suggest traffic companies like Juciyads and Traffic Holder, but traffic was never really our thing. We were going to test as a reseller but so far have not got that part off the ground properly yet.

                      For models, I will agree. It is hard to run a site, hire models and manage them, while simultaneously trying to write software and manage servers. So what we have done is build a new product called Miricam (www.Miricam.com). It's completely free, lets models run their own shows, and do so at any price they want, and at their own pace and schedule. It's much easier for everyone and best of all, makes alot more money for those models.

                      Originally posted by bthizzle
                      Is livecamnetwork Sass?
                      Yep! LiveCamNetwork (and Miricam) are both SaaS.

                      m

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