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  • K R I S T E N
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    • Feb 2005
    • 2438
    #1

    Your $0.02 Please: Would You Trust a Processing Company Whose Owner

    ? and sales guys also run a fraudulant cross sale program (but on the hush hush of course because, God forbid people found out)?

    Just a question because I think there is a FUNDAMENTAL ethics issue at hand (not that many care about ethics these days) and I just see a major problem with said processor mixing their merchants' transactions with their own personal ones to benefit their fraudulent business.

    I don't know - mixing their fraudulant transactions with those of their merchants to cover their asses on chargebacks, etc. Doesn't seem kosher, but maybe no one cares.

    Any input is valued because I would personally fear putting my valuable user data in their hands and quite frankly, you should be too.
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    • LeRoy
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      • Jul 2007
      • 13364
      #2
      No I would not trust a company who runs a fraudulent cross sale program.

      Wondering who this is though.
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        • Relentless
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          • Aug 2006
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          #3
          Honestly there are a lot of good processing companies available these days in adult. I don't know why anyone would choose to use a bad one for any reason, with so many easy to work with quality companies they can choose instead...


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            • 420
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              • Mar 2003
              • 11571
              #4
              Hard to trust and do business with someone that has shady business practices.

              Are cross sales actually fraud though? If so the police should step in.
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                • PAR
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                  • May 2005
                  • 1835
                  #5
                  Originally posted by 420
                  Hard to trust and do business with someone that has shady business practices.

                  Are cross sales actually fraud though? If so the police should step in.
                  Setting aside this being alleged allegations that does not name anyone, any company , any sites, or any cross sale sites etc. It is rather hard to say yes or no with no details to look at and see if there is anything to even worry about...

                  That said, why not just pass and setup with any number of other options on the market?
                  Why post nameless allegations when the solution is so simple.
                  If you have any issues with someone skip having them deal with your processing.

                  If you don't know what your options are simple go to PHX and tell people you are looking for processing, then have a seat and watch the lineup of options grow right before your eyes...

                  Starting a thread like this without naming names can be fun, but it can cut a little deep if found to be baseless, seeing as if this is true it flies against card association rules...
                  Someone could get a little pissy, if they are not in the wrong and they see this as a possible case of liable etc...

                  So some Processor may or may not own or own part of some paysite,
                  that may or may not have cross sales,
                  who's transactions may or may not be getting filtered into other clients accounts,
                  or it may or may have its' own account. Or they may or may not have anything to do with it...

                  You may or may not want to seek other options.

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                    • TheDA
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                      • May 2006
                      • 4665
                      #6
                      Absolutely not.
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                        • WiredGuy
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                          #7
                          On the face of it, some people might think its ok to operate two different business lines where one is shady and the other is clean without issues. All ethics aside, the problem comes up when one of the businesses starts to diminish or fail (likely the shady one), that's when morals and ethics starts to go away on the ethical side in lieu of trying to boost up sales again. That's when clients on both sides of the business lines should start to panic and when their transactions (ethical or shady) start becoming riskier.
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                            • Rochard
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                              On the face of it, some people might think its ok to operate two different business lines where one is shady and the other is clean without issues. All ethics aside, the problem comes up when one of the businesses starts to diminish or fail (likely the shady one), that's when morals and ethics starts to go away on the ethical side in lieu of trying to boost up sales again. That's when clients on both sides of the business lines should start to panic and when their transactions (ethical or shady) start becoming riskier.
                              WG
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                                • K R I S T E N
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 2438
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by PAR
                                  Setting aside this being alleged allegations that does not name anyone, any company , any sites, or any cross sale sites etc. It is rather hard to say yes or no with no details to look at and see if there is anything to even worry about...

                                  That said, why not just pass and setup with any number of other options on the market?
                                  Why post nameless allegations when the solution is so simple.
                                  If you have any issues with someone skip having them deal with your processing.

                                  If you don't know what your options are simple go to PHX and tell people you are looking for processing, then have a seat and watch the lineup of options grow right before your eyes...

                                  Starting a thread like this without naming names can be fun, but it can cut a little deep if found to be baseless, seeing as if this is true it flies against card association rules...
                                  Someone could get a little pissy, if they are not in the wrong and they see this as a possible case of liable etc...

                                  So some Processor may or may not own or own part of some paysite,
                                  that may or may not have cross sales,
                                  who's transactions may or may not be getting filtered into other clients accounts,
                                  or it may or may have its' own account. Or they may or may not have anything to do with it...

                                  You may or may not want to seek other options.
                                  Hey Paul - as I posted on the other message board, in response to your exact same verbiage:

                                  "I agree with you on many points and appreciate your politically correct response.
                                  The reason I posted this was to in fact see if anyone knew of any rules against such practices and if so (or even if not) one should feel "safe" processing there. If I wanted to be "fun" or really start a war I would post the company name AND the concrete facts - but alas, Ill leave that up to the card associations to reprimand them if THEY see fit once I pass over the info to them.

                                  So - THANK YOU for your response - and the response of others. I guess there are rules against it and therefore you answered my question because, in theory, the fact that there are rules against it means it is unethical. And therefore, the company should NOT be trusted."

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                                    • K R I S T E N
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                                      • 2438
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                      On the face of it, some people might think its ok to operate two different business lines where one is shady and the other is clean without issues. All ethics aside, the problem comes up when one of the businesses starts to diminish or fail (likely the shady one), that's when morals and ethics starts to go away on the ethical side in lieu of trying to boost up sales again. That's when clients on both sides of the business lines should start to panic and when their transactions (ethical or shady) start becoming riskier.
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                                        • PAR
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2005
                                          • 1835
                                          #11
                                          Why not just ask any one in your contact list within processing? So I assumed you were/are just having fun...

                                          Simple ethics issue at play on their side would be:
                                          1- owning a merchant company and knowingly violating merchant cross sale rules
                                          2- knowingly violation of processing rule dealing with placing sales under someone else's account/MID
                                          to name but 2 ...

                                          After all fraud is fraud so its not really a question..

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                                            • JJ Gold
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                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 1969
                                              #12
                                              I had to keep checking the post date and url of the forum. A thread about business ethics on GFY? I applaud you all.

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                                                    • K R I S T E N
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                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 2438
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by PAR
                                                      Why not just ask any one in your contact list within processing? So I assumed you were/are just having fun...

                                                      Simple ethics issue at play on their side would be:
                                                      1- owning a merchant company and knowingly violating merchant cross sale rules
                                                      2- knowingly violation of processing rule dealing with placing sales under someone else's account/MID
                                                      to name but 2 ...

                                                      After all fraud is fraud so its not really a question..
                                                      Thanks Paul. Appreciate it.

                                                      And, perhaps we can both learn something here as you have a point about utilizing contact lists instead of bringing others into discussions or (in some cases) personal matters.

                                                      Again, I appreciate your input.
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                                                        • PAR
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                                                          • May 2005
                                                          • 1835
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by K R I S T E N
                                                          Thanks Paul. Appreciate it.

                                                          And, perhaps we can both learn something here as you have a point about utilizing contact lists instead of bringing others into discussions or (in some cases) personal matters.

                                                          Again, I appreciate your input.
                                                          Personal interest?

                                                          I have no personal interest in any processing company nor have I brought anyone into this.

                                                          My only personal interest in this really would be to know what company you are talking about so I do not setup processing with them or if I have already done so to move away from them. It sounds like they could be a processing risk.

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                                                            • mineistaken
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                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                              • 29656
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by LeRoy
                                                              No I would not trust a company who runs a fraudulent cross sale program.

                                                              Wondering who this is though.
                                                              What he said.

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                                                                • Mediamix
                                                                  Dutch Webmaster!
                                                                  • Sep 2013
                                                                  • 3228
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by JJ Gold
                                                                  I had to keep checking the post date and url of the forum. A thread about business ethics on GFY? I applaud you all.
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                                                                    • K R I S T E N
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                      • 2438
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by PAR
                                                                      Personal interest?

                                                                      I have no personal interest in any processing company nor have I brought anyone into this.

                                                                      My only personal interest in this really would be to know what company you are talking about so I do not setup processing with them or if I have already done so to move away from them. It sounds like they could be a processing risk.
                                                                      As I just told you in the private message you started with me on FB, ZERO. I know you have ZERO interest in processing other than setting up your own personal accounts. It wasn't what I was referring to above. But we have direct dialogue now - so, Ill look forward to you hitting me up again there.
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                                                                        • K R I S T E N
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                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 2438
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by PAR
                                                                          Why not just ask any one in your contact list within processing? So I assumed you were/are just having fun...

                                                                          Simple ethics issue at play on their side would be:
                                                                          1- owning a merchant company and knowingly violating merchant cross sale rules
                                                                          2- knowingly violation of processing rule dealing with placing sales under someone else's account/MID
                                                                          to name but 2 ...

                                                                          After all fraud is fraud so its not really a question..
                                                                          Thanks Paul. Appreciate it.

                                                                          And, perhaps we can both learn something here as you have a point about utilizing contact lists instead of bringing others into discussions or (in some cases) personal matters.

                                                                          Again, I appreciate your input.
                                                                          K R I S T E N
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                                                                            • CE Adam
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Mediamix
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                                                                                • Mediamix
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by CE Adam
                                                                                  Do you think 9/11 was funny
                                                                                  Why so serious? Go fuck yourself.
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                                                                                    • JFK
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                                                                                      #22
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                          what he said
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                                                                                            • MassMarketing
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              There is no way I would do business with them. The sad thing is I have met or spoken with some of the top billing companies/middle men and most are so dirty it scares me. People talking about "friendlies" and gift cards to equal out cb ratios, asking if I need help finding nominees, etc. No thank you...
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                                                                                                • 420
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                                                                                                  • 11571
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                  On the face of it, some people might think its ok to operate two different business lines where one is shady and the other is clean without issues. All ethics aside, the problem comes up when one of the businesses starts to diminish or fail (likely the shady one), that's when morals and ethics starts to go away on the ethical side in lieu of trying to boost up sales again. That's when clients on both sides of the business lines should start to panic and when their transactions (ethical or shady) start becoming riskier.
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                                                                                                    • PhillipB
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                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                      • 1338
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Apparently the concept of a rhetorical question is lost on many in this thread.

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                                                                                                        • 2MuchMark
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                          • 50988
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by CE Adam
                                                                                                          Do you think 9/11 was funny
                                                                                                          What kind of fucking idiot would do this?

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                                                                                                            • Captain Kawaii
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                                                                                                              • Oct 2007
                                                                                                              • 6748
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by PhillipB
                                                                                                              Apparently the concept of a rhetorical question is lost on many in this thread.
                                                                                                              Good point.

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                                                                                                                • ilnjscb
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                                                                                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                                                                                  • 8973
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  IMHO a processor must be above reproach and must have the highest and most transparent standards in the business.

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                                                                                                                    • nico-t
                                                                                                                      emperor of my world
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                      • 29903
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      thread is completely worthless without name of company. Everyone clicks on here to find out who it is so spill the beans already.

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                                                                                                                        • C H R I S
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                                                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                          • 10842
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I have a better question:

                                                                                                                          You best girlfriends husband is cheating on her with an hooker with AIDS. Do you tell her?

                                                                                                                          Totally rhetorical ....
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                                                                                                                            • corvette
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mobius Matt
                                                                                                                              What he said
                                                                                                                              what he said


                                                                                                                              this seems to be the thread to be in, WG, tell me your going to be in Phx next week...we need a bus driver ;)
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                                                                                                                                • 420
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                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 11571
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by PhillipB
                                                                                                                                  Apparently the concept of a rhetorical question is lost on many in this thread.
                                                                                                                                  She specifically asked for my two cents though.
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                                                                                                                                    • JFK
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                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 67373
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 420
                                                                                                                                      She specifically asked for my two cents though.
                                                                                                                                      I am glad you were here to give it

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                                                                                                                                        • NewNick
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MassMarketing
                                                                                                                                          There is no way I would do business with them. The sad thing is I have met or spoken with some of the top billing companies/middle men and most are so dirty it scares me. People talking about "friendlies" and gift cards to equal out cb ratios, asking if I need help finding nominees, etc. No thank you...
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                                                                                                                                            • Due
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                                                                                                                                              Lol 9 out of 10 billing companies is currently shitting their pants
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                                                                                                                                                • Supz
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                                                                                                                                                  • 11057
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  If you are an ethical business person. This is a trick question?

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                                                                                                                                                    • sonofsam
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                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 18642
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Are you people blind?

                                                                                                                                                      This thread was clearly started to scare whoever she has some sort of problem with. I have no idea which processor she is referring to, but this question is just to get their attention. Maybe they owe her money, and this is a way to get them scared so they pay her, I don't know.

                                                                                                                                                      The question is rhetorical, and it would take an idiot to actually have to think about it before coming to a conclusion on whether or not it would be a bad idea to do business with a company like that when they would probably just steal your data/cause risk to your business.

                                                                                                                                                      The real question is, if she gets whatever she is trying to get, will she out the shady company? Probably not.
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                                                                                                                                                        • oppoten
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                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2007
                                                                                                                                                          • 4793
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by JJ Gold
                                                                                                                                                          I had to keep checking the post date and url of the forum. A thread about business ethics on GFY? I applaud you all.
                                                                                                                                                          Same here, thought it was a retro thread that had been bumped ironically.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Matyko
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                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                                                              • 8681
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TheDA
                                                                                                                                                              Absolutely not.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Phoenix
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                                                                                                                                                                  • 35475
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                                                                                                                                  Are you people blind?

                                                                                                                                                                  This thread was clearly started to scare whoever she has some sort of problem with. I have no idea which processor she is referring to, but this question is just to get their attention. Maybe they owe her money, and this is a way to get them scared so they pay her, I don't know.

                                                                                                                                                                  The question is rhetorical, and it would take an idiot to actually have to think about it before coming to a conclusion on whether or not it would be a bad idea to do business with a company like that when they would probably just steal your data/cause risk to your business.

                                                                                                                                                                  The real question is, if she gets whatever she is trying to get, will she out the shady company? Probably not.
                                                                                                                                                                  This is what i thought as well.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Ferus
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2013
                                                                                                                                                                      • 4108
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                                                                                                      This is what i thought as well.
                                                                                                                                                                      Same .....

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                                                                                                                                                                        • pomperipossa
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Absolutely NOT!
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                                                                                                                                                                            • sonofsam
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 18642
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Guess she got paid

                                                                                                                                                                              As expected she won't out the shady processor

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                                                                                                                                                                                • OneHungLo
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 40906
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                                                                                                                                                  Guess she got paid

                                                                                                                                                                                  As expected she won't out the shady processor

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                                                                                                                                                                                  If that's true, I guess she is OK with working with shady processor as long as she gets paid

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • 420
                                                                                                                                                                                      cuck
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 11571
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                                                                                                                      I am glad you were here to give it
                                                                                                                                                                                      I appreciate the kind words.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                                                                                                                                                                      If that's true, I guess she is OK with working with shady processor as long as she gets paid
                                                                                                                                                                                      In that case the answer must be: trust them until they miss a payment.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • NETbilling
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 8598
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Kristen,

                                                                                                                                                                                          Let me know if you need any help or advice.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Let's chat.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Mitch


                                                                                                                                                                                          Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                                                                                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                                                                                          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Roald
                                                                                                                                                                                              SecretFriends.com
                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 27910
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              so spill the beans....


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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I have zero clue who you are referring to, and don't even want to know. Whether it's in compliance is one thing, whether it's an ethical move is something else entirely.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Over the years, I saw it all... good, bad, downright fraud. It happens in every industry, and some people profit from it, some don't.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm a little puzzled as to how someone could stack cross sales on top of someone else's transactions without anyone catching on, if that's what you're insinuating. I don't recall a single site owner not seeding their own sales and running test joins with real credit cards and Gmail addresses on a regular basis to keep an eye on what their processor was doing - we do that with Apple, and they should be pretty trustworthy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  One of main reasons I left adult processing was because everyone and their dog started a processing company and running clean transactions was not making the kind of money that running less savory setups did.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • iCard360
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2014
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 2
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      why get involved with a company/person(s) like that?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      we process for the adult industry, no issues and we are honest. If you allow us to help you will make it as smooth as possible, we don't waste your time. if you can help you, we would be more than happy to if not we just let you know.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      David,
                                                                                                                                                                                                      icard360

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