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My congratulations go to all the GFY members who stuck by Chrome. Had it not been for you guys i think the results would have been way different to the one in this thread. It goes to show what is possible if everyone sticks together drops the hate and egos and stick up for what's right, kudos to you guys
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Congrats to Chrome for finally getting paid what he has had coming all along.Comment
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Video Secrets are a great bunch of guys. Kudos for taking care of this.
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congrats to VS for doing the right thing!Comment
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I told you that cooler heads would prevail.
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good move... glad to see something good came of this!Comment
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Better late then never..
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Not that there was another one, but smart move. Now I would suggest a serious PR campaign to get you out of the shitter. You have bright minds at that company, I'm sure you'll come up with something.Over the past 8 days many of you were witness to a long and sometimes heated thread regarding our decision to suspend an affiliate account for lack of activity. Many of you disagreed with our policy and made your opinions quite clear. While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion we have decided to amend our Terms & Conditions in favor of a LIFETIME PAYOUT.
The affiliate in question will receive any and all monies that were withheld for the 7 months his account was in suspension. In addition, he will continue to receive his commissions on a monthly basis as long as the customer he referred continues to make purchases; regardless of whether he sends another click.
We have posted an amendment to our Terms & Conditions clearly stating that we will not suspend an account for lack of promotional activity.
http://www.videosecrets.com/terms.php (Section 6.4)
It has been said that decisions are always correct when you make them, but they can stop being correct soon thereafter. In this case it?s clear that what is in the best interest of Video Secrets, our thousands of performers and our affiliates is a policy which goes out of its way to pay affiliates for life.
We hope that those of you who made some very out of line personal attacks in the other threads will think twice before doing that again. There are always two sides to every controversy and while the wheels of progress sometimes move slowly we feel they have stopped on a positive outcome for all.
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Great form VS Media! Its always a win win situation when a sponsor does right by their affiliates!
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too little too late.Comment
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blah blah blah (no offense jact!)
Look at all you people in this thread....LMAO....the politics here is just to funny.
VideoSecrets has been around WAAAYYYY to long to NOT know the game. The fact that they're veterans in this industry and a big company make's it even worst. They knew better, end of story. I mean, lifetime renewals is pure logic and not something that has to be taught to a company like Video Secrets. If they had to be taught or told that you can't just strip someones money away because they stopped sending traffic, well.....i don't buy it one bit. They're way to smart for that or they wouldn't still be around today.
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whoever is in charge of all this bullshit should get his ass fired
unbelievable....and too late too.
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How many folks in that thread, rather than descending to rabble rousing and hate mongering as a way to deal with the issue, actually picked up the phone or hit up VS to discuss the issue personally and professionally? Who took the time to try and figure out what was not being brought to the boards in order to truly figure out what the deal was and the reasons behind decisions?
In my experience, after being in the Acacia suit with VS for years, which btw VS and Homegrown were the first two companies that came together to form a defense group, I have only know VS to be one of the most ethical and upstanding companies around. While I may not have agreed with their decision on first glance, I took the time to hear them out and realize there was way more to the problem than anything presented on the boards. In the end, regardless of my opinion (which ain't worth
), I applaud their decision to review their actions and take the course that they have chosen. At the same time, I respect that they had to make difficult choices. Anyone that actually runs a real business knows that oftentime difficult and sometime unpopular considerations must be made.
In the end, both parties are happy with the resolution so what anyone thinks at this point is mute. VS was never "hurting" for biz and truth to tell i seriously doubt any of the affiliates that have been earning cash with them for years even considered dropping them.
Feel free to bash me for this opinion, I won't lose any sleep over it. I know at the end of the day that I didn't just join a lynch mob and I stood by my convictions and presented my views off the boards to the folks at VS in a calm and considerate fashion, respectful even in my criticisms.
To me, that was the professional way to handle it and I got the same in return. For that reason alone, like it or not - you don't have to agree, but I still trust them with our traffic.HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
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But after links are removed, affiliates will stop going to videosecrets to check stats. Isn't it?
you did. I remember .. lol
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Its the other way arround, an affiliate who made many for years got dropped
Its webmaster against sponsor, and i deal with cams 10 years now, and i have never seen such an amateur move as what they did, a bullshit replay on line. I spoke to many cam sponsors who run for years, and they all laughed at the replay VS placed online.
This is not a win win situation at all, politic games were used to make this all go away. And when they read it on other boards, they knew they could not do anything else then placing this message.
On the other hand, i always knew VS had to give in, who has the longest breath here? A sponsor company, or a organized group of webmasters.Comment
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You only changed decision and paid up because of all the lost affiliates and things going downwards. This change was not done in regards to solve things with Chrome but only to save yourself when ship started to sink.
I hope people keep staying away from your program for a long time, but reading this thread it sounds like a lot here licks up your lame "excuse" and everything is back to normal.
As some already said.. "Too late and selfish".
I think this quote sums it up fine.
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Good Move guys... Glad to see things are back on track
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Better late then never
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This is a pretty good end result for everyone involved. I have some new-found respect for VS. The initial response to the GFY PR onslaught was rude, arrogant and completely inappropriate. That was almost as bad as suspending the account to begin with. The response was a well-written "fuck you, we can do whatever we want" addressed to everyone who took the time to read it.
I'll reluctantly send traffic to VS again. My advice: Hire a PR person to handle future responses.I like pie.Comment
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What is the point of boycotting someone, if they are still boycotted after they change their ways? Sure you could try to run them out of town, but if that is the only future for programs doing misguided things, then they will never change, once they make their first (and hopefull last) bad decision.
Boycotting = good
No forgiveness = prolonging the problem
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Time spent basking in drama on gfy ~ ( 1 / webmaster earnings )I died.Comment
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Wow Ray i thought you were smarter than that. Alexa is very unreliable especially for short periods of time like you mentioned.
Second of all the majority of VideoSecrets big clients don't send to VideoSecrets.com
I said this from the beginning. VS is a good company. They've been around for a long time and will be around for a long time to come.Comment
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this was not an out of the blue error that rarely happens and can easily be forgiven. This was an attempted theft, foiled by the public outcry for simple, logical justice.
stealing from or lying to affiliates is the single worst thing a program can do.
pulling your traffic is the single worst thing you can do to them in return.
stop defending them for trying to steal an affiliates money. that's what they tried to do and were caught with their hand in Chrome's cookie jar
again, this wasn't a random technical error. it was thought out deliberate theft. they were caught and FORCED to return the money.
I wonder if this would have happend in a stronger economy.Comment
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Love it.. first they take the screw the affiliate approach.
Then it's the get the post deleted approach..
Finally after neither works they do what should have been done in the first place..
What was the master card commercial.... "priceless"
Now of course they are "stand up guys and a top notch company..
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stealing is is not stealing unless it happens to you...this industry is such short mindedSig heil
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So it took you 10 pages of people saying they will pull their links to pay this guy out. Fucking scumbag piece of shit. And everyone who suddenly say "well done bro's" can suck my nutballs too. Its clear they are fucking scumbags and simply wanted to keep that guys money. Now that they found out theyre losing way more from the pulled links they suddenly play the good guys. Shit makes me sick.Comment
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People like you make me even sicker. No wonder you are good friends with DH. God what a pathetic fucking life you must have kissing ass wherever you can for business. Sickening. You and all your bro buddies and DH. Dumb fuck. You just 100% showed what a dumb fucking simpleton you are. I hope someone shits in your face when youre licking ass again. Idiot.Comment
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